[Discussion] Do you accept the theory of evolution?

[oxtopus]

I already said no religious argument on this thread, but why do you object to human evolution other than that? Or is religion the only reason since you accept it with regards to other animals? In that case , don't reply please as this thread is NOT about religious objections/reasons.

Tell me what is religious about my post,you don't even know I practice any religion,smh

 

[Made in Heaven]

Evolution from one species to another can take 1000's of years to happen.

Immune systems are an example of evolution on a smaller scale and shorter time frame.

The natives of America were isolated for multiple 1000s (over 10,000) of years, but they're still humans. Well, unless you were European at the time America was "discovered".

Honestly, if such a long time isn't enough to cause any actual, significant, noticeable changes between the Americans and Europeans, then why is it so absurd to hold the beliefs I do in regards to evolution?

We're showcasing that the effects of Evolution don't have to be so apparent in the form of one species to another, but can also occur on a micro and minute level for us to understand it the same way.

Okay, I don't think that really proves macro evolution, but it's whatever.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

I don't believe that humans are descendants of apes, that's for sure.

That's because we're not. We share a common ancestor


Jesus Christ

U wanna know of evolution is real?

U have a dog?

They didn't always exist. We forcibly created them. There are here through something called artificial selection.

That's evolution for u

 

[NarutoKage2]

Of course because we can measure atomic theory now using our technology. How are we supposed to measure Evolution? All we can do with regards to it is look back in the past and make up ideas.

Not really. Looking at the past is a side component, the main evidence comes from observing living species, such as belayev(a Russian scientist) and his artificial breeding program with foxes that led to dog like appearances in just 6 generations, or the guppies(a type of fish) experiment that also yielded profound results. Yes, but after all that exhaustive experimentation we then extrapolate to how the past may have been( they don't know the exact route, but there was undoubtedly some route ).

 

[BLAZE]

The natives of America were isolated for multiple 1000s (over 10,000) of years, but they're still humans. Well, unless you were European at the time America was "discovered".

Honestly, if such a long time isn't enough to cause any actual, significant, noticeable changes between the Americans and Europeans, then why is it so absurd to hold the beliefs I do in regards to evolution?

weren't Native Americans descendants of Asians who migrated to America via land bridge on Bering strait long before europeons came in

 

[Made in Heaven]

weren't Native Americans descendants of Asians who migrated to America via land bridge on Bering strait long before europeons came in

I'm not sure if that's fact or not. But regardless of if they were or not, wouldn't over 10,000 years of isolation from the rest of the world, if we are to assume evolution is in effect constantly, lead to them having at least a handful of noticeable differences than the humans of the western continents? And yet, they're just as human as any other.

Heck, the Australian natives are an even bigger hurdle, as they were isolated from Asia/Middle East/Europe for almost 5 times as much years as the American natives, at about 50,000 years.

And what do we see?

Still. Human.

 

[BLAZE]

I'm not sure if that's fact or not. But regardless of if they were or not, wouldn't over 10,000 years of isolation from the rest of the world, if we are to assume evolution is in effect constantly, lead to them having at least a handful of noticeable differences than the humans of the western continents? And yet, they're just as human as any other.

so how they are gonna adapt against a disease which they never faced for 1000 years :|

 

[Made in Heaven]

so how they are gonna adapt against a disease which they never faced for 1000 years :|

That wasn't what I was getting at.

 

[BLAZE]

That wasn't what I was getting at.

so what were you thinking they will evolve in Grizzlyman or Cougarwoman in 1000 or 10000 years :|

 

[Multiply]

I'm not sure if that's fact or not. But regardless of if they were or not, wouldn't over 10,000 years of isolation from the rest of the world, if we are to assume evolution is in effect constantly, lead to them having at least a handful of noticeable differences than the humans of the western continents? And yet, they're just as human as any other.

Heck, the Australian natives are an even bigger hurdle, as they were isolated from Asia/Middle East/Europe for almost 5 times as much years as the American natives, at about 50,000 years.

And what do we see?

Still. Human.

What. Are. You. Talking. About.
Stop. Talking. About. Things. You. Don't. Know.

 

[NarutoKage2]

The natives of America were isolated for multiple 1000s (over 10,000) of years, but they're still humans. Well, unless you were European at the time America was "discovered".

Honestly, if such a long time isn't enough to cause any actual, significant, noticeable changes between the Americans and Europeans, then why is it so absurd to hold the beliefs I do in regards to evolution?


Okay, I don't think that really proves macro evolution, but it's whatever.

Depends what you consider as 'long time'. Do you know how old the earth is(using dendrochronology, carbon dating, techs that have NOTHING to do with evolution)??
4.6 billion years. That's plenty of time for huge changes, especially when belayev basically demonstrated wolves turning into dogs in just 6 generations.

Also, its the most reasonable theory, since not even a single, authentic legitimate mammal fossil has ever been found in a geological strata in the pre Cambrian, or the Triassic or even until the end of the Jurassic eras.

Now before you reply to any of this, do some reading on the scientific literature, the books/articles written about this phenomenon by SCIENTISTS not creationists, then tell me why you as an individual object. If you cannot do that(and I doubt you will) kindly stop posting as this thread is about science and not religion.

Edit: and about your point about 1000 or 10000 years, well in that time they did differ. They didn't, for instance:
- have the Europeans immunity to measles, smallpox etc
-the African peoples sickle cell anaemia which makes them resistant to malaria.

That's pretty significant as a difference.

 

[Multiply]

Depends what you consider as 'long time'. Do you know how old the earth is(using dendrochronology, carbon dating, techs that have NOTHING to do with evolution)??
4.6 billion years. That's plenty of time for huge changes, especially when belayev basically demonstrated wolves turning into dogs in just 6 generations.

Also, its the most reasonable theory, since not even a single, authentic legitimate mammal fossil has ever been found in a geological strata in the pre Cambrian, or the Triassic or even until the end of the Jurassic eras.

Now before you reply to any of this, do some reading on the scientific literature, the books/articles written about this phenomenon by SCIENTISTS not creationists, then tell me why you as an individual object. If you cannot do that(and I doubt you will) kindly stop posting as this thread is about science and not religion.

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[Osmon]

It's a theory that may or may not be proven that is true so until then Imma keep believing what God said z.z

 

[BLAZE]

It's a theory that may or may not be proven that is true so until then Imma keep believing what God said z.z

what did he say

 

[Osmon]

what did he say

He said that we were created out of the dust of earth z.z

 

[BLAZE]

He said that we were created out of the dust of earth z.z

ah i see
dust to humans

makes more sense than evolution

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm not sure if that's fact or not. But regardless of if they were or not, wouldn't over 10,000 years of isolation from the rest of the world, if we are to assume evolution is in effect constantly, lead to them having at least a handful of noticeable differences than the humans of the western continents? And yet, they're just as human as any other.

Heck, the Australian natives are an even bigger hurdle, as they were isolated from Asia/Middle East/Europe for almost 5 times as much years as the American natives, at about 50,000 years.

And what do we see?

Still. Human.

That's...not how evolution works. You don't just transform for the sake of transformation. It acts a response to the environment. Human beings evolve slower and have less drastic changes than animals because of our intelligence. Most animals rely completely on the abilities of their bodies, which means when there's a need in the environment that demands adaptation, their nature is adapt physically to fulfill this demand.

Humans, being more intelligent, have developed tools. So, rather than simply adapting physically, we often invent something that can get fulfill demands. While a bird might fulfill the demand of needing to cross a vast distance to find a new habitat that is warm during times of intense cold by having a physical adaptation of wings or a lighter body to improve flight, human beings invented internal heating systems for their homes. So, we don't evolve as readily and as physically as most animals

The demand to fight a disease didn't require a drastic physical change, it only required the immune system be familiarized with the strain that causes the disease. So there's no drastic physical change that would turn Europeans into a new species.

Being and remaining the same species has nothing to do with proximity, so Australians being isolated isn't enough to warrant evolution into a new species.

 

[Osmon]

ah i see
dust to humans

makes more sense than evolution

Monkeys to humans ? I'm good thank you.

 

[Wabbit]

ITT willful ignorants
>I will refuse to look into and continuously deny or say whatever even though intellectuals are schooling me because muh religion

 

[Punk Hazard]

Monkeys to humans ? I'm good thank you.

1. That's not what evolution says, you should educate yourself.

2. It's far more likely than magic turning us from dust into humans.