[Discussion] Did Naruto even learn 1 new in the 3 years he spent with Jiraiya!
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There Talking About The Jutsu That Sealed With The Kyuubi If He Had A Hidden Jutsu He WOuld oF use It All Ready
Yes Naruto has learned much more than he has shown, TO START, before the time skip in the hokages office hallway, Jiraiya gave naruto some advice, when he was excited about learning rasengan. Jiraiya told Naruto to never show all of your abilities because once your enemies know all your abilities your enemies can use them against you. Naruto has stayed with this principle ever since. NOW what Naruto learned during his time away, this is manly interpretations of naruto's past behavior, training time, learning ability when taught correctly, healing abilities, and Jiraiya skills. Their also the interview with the writer that details what Naruto has learned, all j-man's jutsu and 3 of minato's... But I won?t use the interview because I don't know how real they are, because I truly believe Kakashi will teach naruto or give naruto the keys to his father?s jutsu and wishes. And the reason naruto does not know these jutsu yet is because he had to be ready and able to perform them. Like the 4ths space/time jutsu which I feel kakashi won't be able to do this jutsu to its true potential because of his overall low chakra, so he would have to give him the keys.
. But, Naruto has always learned by doing (example rasengan) and learns fast and has stamina greater than any I have seen in the manga. Jiraiya was one of the greatest ninja in the naruto world, it is impossible to have a student that want to learn an having a teacher that is willing to teach, and Naruto did not learn anything.
my observation why naruto does not use his jutsu, is that naruto has had so much success using his basic powers and the nine-tails when he has pushed his body to far or is unwilling to do what had to be done. But what naruto truly learned during the three years away, was chakra control and it began his journey learning to control the fox.
. But, Naruto has always learned by doing (example rasengan) and learns fast and has stamina greater than any I have seen in the manga. Jiraiya was one of the greatest ninja in the naruto world, it is impossible to have a student that want to learn an having a teacher that is willing to teach, and Naruto did not learn anything.
my observation why naruto does not use his jutsu, is that naruto has had so much success using his basic powers and the nine-tails when he has pushed his body to far or is unwilling to do what had to be done. But what naruto truly learned during the three years away, was chakra control and it began his journey learning to control the fox.
So what is the ability to gather and use nature chakra then? It's sage mode, and a damn fine ability. Controlling Kyuubi or nature chakra may not translate literally to jutsu, jutsu=secret technique, but it's an ability and to discount it from people's posts in the thread seems incorrect.
Jiraiya knew full well that Naruto needed to learn to control the Kyuubi chakra, take advantage if they could. He spent the three years also preparing Naruto for the Akatsuki that would be coming, not to mention the whole peace bit that will help change the whole Narutoverse. Jutsu are not the end all be all of the Narutoverse, just a part.
Objective as always,
, though I feel that is the sentiment of the thread, not the individual responses per se. Honestly, the title isn't even very objective. It feels more like bait. Nonetheless, I stand by my view that Jiraiya taught Naruto as stated above. Peace
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Naruto learned to increase the size of his Rasengan, he learned to better utilize his Kage Bunshin, his chakra most likely increased, his taijutsu skills probably got better, he learned to cancel a genjutsu, and he learned to draw out more of the kyuubi's power. He also probably traveled a good amount to see some of the world and he probably got a bit smarter as well. That's quite a bit of stuff there.
Naruto may not have grown as much as Sasuke or Sakura but Sasuke was probably taking drugs and with his Sharingan he can learn things much easier. Sakura sucked so much that any growth made her a lot better than she used to be.
I believe "that jutsu" was really just releasing Kyuubi chakra. Jutsu is a technique or ability. Releasing a different kind of chakra can be seen as an ability. Jiraiya was telling Naruto not to use the Kyuubi since he hadn't come close to mastering it yet and it was too dangerous.
Naruto may not have grown as much as Sasuke or Sakura but Sasuke was probably taking drugs and with his Sharingan he can learn things much easier. Sakura sucked so much that any growth made her a lot better than she used to be.
I believe "that jutsu" was really just releasing Kyuubi chakra. Jutsu is a technique or ability. Releasing a different kind of chakra can be seen as an ability. Jiraiya was telling Naruto not to use the Kyuubi since he hadn't come close to mastering it yet and it was too dangerous.
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Sage mode is not an end all ability. It increases chakra supply vastly and allows Naruto to throw FRS without damage, however pain showed quite clearly, even without god realm, and using most of his chakra, that sage mode can be beaten.
In fact Minato stated to defeat tobi requires a special jutsu/ability, had this been sage mode Minato would know Naruto has trained in this and tell him.
Sage mode powers Naruto up quite a bit, it does not make him invincible.
As long as you don't try to absorb it you should be fine.
Itachi would still place him under genjutsu from the very beginning and own him just like usual, and many other S+ Rank Ninjas could beat him now also.
I agree, sage mode is not the end all but it is the start, i believe naruto must learn to perfect sage mode , it seems that sage mode is more of a state of being. With practice naruto should be able to hold over long periods of time or sustain permanently, Naruto has the nine-tails yang chakra with-in him, I think it?s the reason for his problem with the nine-tails it?s not balanced no yin, it seems that naruto has the half of the nine-tails that is the logic and emotion based half of the nine-tails, because the nine-tails seems to have its knowledge and its rage/anger and it seems to also be in some form of pain. Naruto?s ability to use natural energy should be able to balance the nine-tails and gain a power unknown but he must still learn how to take full advantage of his found abilities.
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The time he spent with Jiraiya, he got battle experience. Ero Sennin knew what Naruto lacked was experience, of course he taught him a new jutsu or a new jutsu was developed. Remember Naruto came back smarter in battle techniques then when he left.
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In your face to all those noobs who thought that jutsu meant that power!
Its probably some jutsu in which Naruto has to become the fox or use up all of its chakra.
Its probably some jutsu in which Naruto has to become the fox or use up all of its chakra.
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