Deidara vs Tobirama

[Penguin]

not sure why you belive that when sasuke was able to stab sm madara while tobirama couldnt and i see you take the most irrelevant part out of post to dwell on nothing changes that deidara gets in the air 40m its to much of a distance for a speedblitz ftg or nawt


sike

Comparing EMS Sasuke to Hebi Sasuke. Madara let himself get hit by the way. Read the manga.

 

[Beans2]

Oh, okay makes sense. I should have made Deidara start on his bird.

Even so, does Deidara win?

 

[KidGamer65]

not sure why you belive that when sasuke was able to stab sm madara while tobirama couldnt and i see you take the most irrelevant part out of post to dwell on nothing changes that deidara gets in the air 40m its to much of a distance for a speedblitz ftg or nawt

Madara was effortlessly evading him, then stopped to catch his blade. Any other interpretation is nothing but a flawed interpretation.

Lol, that part of your post is the only thing that proves Deidara can get into the air, and don't bother with distance, I already replied to a post with the same content.

 

[Unorthodox]

Comparing EMS Sasuke to Hebi Sasuke. Madara let himself get hit by the way. Read the manga.

what exactly changed speed wise between the two if madara would so reckless to let himself get hit he would not have botherd dodging anyways like i said that still is one of the most irrelevant parts of my post

 

[A v i]

Look at the distance b/w Madara and Gai

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(top left) Madara's black Orb moved only a little further after

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and Minato said that it was around 70 min which means that the distance b/w Gai and Madara in first scan was b/w 50 and 60 meters.With this we can conclude that that 40m isn't a big deal for ninjas to throw the kunai's.

It isn't accurate but makes a little sense.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara was effortlessly evading him, then stopped to catch his blade. Any other interpretation is nothing but a flawed interpretation.

Lol, that part of your post is the only thing that proves Deidara can get into the air, and don't bother with distance, I already replied to a post with the same content.

you didnt prove shit but fanfic 40 metors is to much distance for a speed blitz deidara isnt slow he wins this med diff max your hole argument is based on a speedblitz because you know deidara has this wrapped up

^^^^ these people act like deidara is choji or something tsk or a simple counter attack for the kunai

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[KidGamer65]

you didnt prove shit but fanfic 40 metors is to much distance for a speed blitz deidara isnt slow he wins this med diff max your hole argument is based on a speedblitz because you know deidara has this wrapped up

^^^^ these people act like deidara is choji or something tsk

No, its not. All he needs to do is throw a Kunai at him and its over. Once he teleports its GG Deidara with little difficulty. I see no real argument here, just you talking about how "40 meters is too much" when ordinary humans throw heavier objects longer distances than 40 meters.

Lol, I don't give a damn if he's fast or slow, he's simply not fast enough to react to Hiraishin.

 

[Unorthodox]

No, its not. All he needs to do is throw a Kunai at him and its over. Once he teleports its GG Deidara with little difficulty. I see no real argument here, just you talking about how "40 meters is too much" when ordinary humans throw heavier objects longer distances than 40 meters.

Lol, I don't give a damn if he's fast or slow, he's simply not fast enough to react to Hiraishin.

from 40 metors there is multiply ways to counter it throw his own kunai toss a bomb at it or just jump in the air and use his bird blitzing isnt happening give that horseshit argument up son

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[KidGamer65]

from 40 metors there is multiply ways to counter it throw his own kunai toss a bomb at it or just jump in the air and use his bird blitzing isnt happening give that horseshit argument up son

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Deidara with no info on Tobirama at all is going to make a bomb just to counter his Kunai? Lol, not a chance pal. Even if he does, he tosses another one or simply teleports to the Kunai, tosses it out of the bomb's pathway, toward Deidara, and then he warps once again to finish him off.

Jump on his bird to evade 1 Kunai? It seems you don't understand the concept of NO INFO. Get out of here with this horseshit argument son.

 

[KidGamer65]

from 40 metors there is multiply ways to counter it throw his own kunai toss a bomb at it or just jump in the air and use his bird blitzing isnt happening give that horseshit argument up son

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Deidara with no info on Tobirama at all is going to make a bomb just to counter his Kunai? Lol, not a chance pal. Even if he does, he tosses another one or simply teleports to the Kunai, tosses it out of the bomb's pathway, toward Deidara, and then he warps once again to finish him off.

Jump on his bird to evade 1 Kunai? It seems you don't understand the concept of NO INFO. Get out of here with this horseshit argument son.

 

[KidGamer65]

from 40 metors there is multiply ways to counter it throw his own kunai toss a bomb at it or just jump in the air and use his bird blitzing isnt happening give that horseshit argument up son

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Deidara with no info on Tobirama at all is going to make a bomb just to counter his Kunai? Lol, not a chance pal. Even if he does, he tosses another one or simply teleports to the Kunai, tosses it out of the bomb's pathway, toward Deidara, and then he warps once again to finish him off.

Or he can make clones, which just makes it worse for him as he'll have multiple Kunai coming from multiple directions.

You keep talking about "Sasuke's Shunshin" even though Tobirama is stated to be faster than Madara, and Madara's Shunshin is faster than Sasuke's going by feats.

Jump on his bird to evade 1 Kunai? It seems you don't understand the concept of NO INFO. Get out of here with this horseshit argument son. Lol

Deidara barely made it into the air against Sasuke because of his speed. Tobirama is faster than Sasuke. Do the math.

 

[shelke]

It seems far too odd to not give Deidara any info here. Since he couldn't react to Sasuke, he cannot react to Tobirama. Had Tobi not pointed it out, he was done for.

- Off Topic : Alive Madara without SM has much better speed and Reaction rates than Sasuke and Madara let Sasuke hit him and was just catching the blade?

LMFAO

 

[KidGamer65]

- Off Topic : Alive Madara without SM has much better speed and Reaction rates than Sasuke and Madara let Sasuke hit him and was just catching the blade?

LMFAO

-Blitzed SM Naruto. [

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-Madara dodging Sasuke's strikes. [

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-Madara stopping right in his tracks to shift his arm in front of Sasuke's blade in order to catch it. [

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Its pretty clear that Madara didn't get hit because he was too slow to evade, he let himself get hit to catch the blade.

 

[Conspirator.]

@shelke
I think kidgamer65 was talking about ems sasuke, not the current version. Madara has shown better speed feats than ems sasuke-plus he's a sensor type which further augments his reflexes.

 

[shelke]

-Blitzed SM Naruto. [

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-Madara dodging Sasuke's strikes. [

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-Madara stopping right in his tracks to shift his arm in front of Sasuke's blade in order to catch it. [

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Its pretty clear that Madara didn't get hit because he was too slow to evade, he let himself get hit to catch the blade.

Madara got pushed back, that's a fact. He didn't stop to let himself get hit. He caught Sasuke's blade before it could stab further through.

I never mentioned that Madara was slow, I said that Sasuke is fast. Two different things. And so what if SM Naruto got blitzed? He isn't exactly a speed demon.

 

[Apêx1]

One sided match-up. Tobirama steamrolls.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara got pushed back, that's a fact. He didn't stop to let himself get hit. He caught Sasuke's blade before it could stab further through.

I never mentioned that Madara was slow, I said that Sasuke is fast. Too different things. And so what if SM Naruto got blitzed? He isn't exactly a speed demon.

I know he got pushed back, that is a fact. But him stopping to let himself get hit? Lol, clearly is a fact. He was already evading Sasuke's strikes by jumping backwards, there is no reason that all of a sudden he'd just get stabbed when nothing stopped him from jumping back any further.

You can clearly see Madara stopping and swinging his arm in Sasuke's path. That right there already makes your claim of him catching it before he could stab further through false when Madara was the one who swung his arm in the path of Sasuke's sword in the first place. Also, how would it stab further through than how far it had already gone? He had already pierced straight through Madara's arm, and going any further wouldn't take him to Madara's body as his arm wasn't aligned with his body. Another reason why your claim doesn't hold.

I never said that you claimed he was slow, just that he was too slow to evade Sasuke's attacks, which is what you did claim, and that is different from him being slow in general.

His reactions are far more impressive than his speed, and he has a form of precognation due to Sage Mode, yet he still got blitzed. That is saying something.

 

[EdoItachi]

Tobirama low diff maybe mid diff lol. Tobirama is in a whole other class compared to Deidara he is a master sensor, has space/time ninjutsu, mastery of suiton, and he invented the Edo Tensei. He would speed blitz Deidara and take him out in seconds.

 

[shelke]

I know he got pushed back, that is a fact. But him stopping to let himself get hit? Lol, clearly is a fact. He was already evading Sasuke's strikes by jumping backwards, there is no reason that all of a sudden he'd just get stabbed when nothing stopped him from jumping back any further.

You can clearly see Madara stopping and swinging his arm in Sasuke's path. That right there already makes your claim of him catching it before he could stab further through false when Madara was the one who swung his arm in the path of Sasuke's sword in the first place. Also, how would it stab further through than how far it had already gone? He had already pierced straight through Madara's arm, and going any further wouldn't take him to Madara's body as his arm wasn't aligned with his body. Another reason why your claim doesn't hold.

I never said that you claimed he was slow, just that he was too slow to evade Sasuke's attacks, which is what you did claim, and that is different from him being slow in general.

His reactions are far more impressive than his speed, and he has a form of precognation due to Sage Mode, yet he still got blitzed. That is saying something.

The fact that the motion lines are still there, kinda shows otherwise. Unless, you have some concrete proof on this that he simply didn't position his body to save Hashirama's Mokuton mug, I'm gonna hold onto this claim. The Blade was clearly aimed at Hashirama's face on his chest. He endeavoured to maneuver his right arm to try and catch it and failed, but manged to get it after it got stabbed through. In fact, he had to use his second hand as well. He's also using SM, which makes it even more impressive on Sasuke's part.

Are you talking about SM Naruto? I'll say they are at the bottom of the line as far as Hashirama and Kabuto's DSM goes, but yes, I will definitely agree with you here, that SM NAruto's reaction rates aren't bad - they are quite monumental, given his base stats.

 

[KidGamer65]

The fact that the motion lines are still there, kinda shows otherwise. Unless, you have some concrete proof on this that he simply didn't position his body to save Hashirama's Mokuton mug, I'm gonna hold onto this claim. The Blade was clearly aimed at Hashirama's face on his chest. He endeavoured to maneuver his right arm to try and catch it and failed, but manged to get it after it got stabbed through. In fact, he had to use his second hand as well. He's also using SM, which makes it even more impressive on Sasuke's part.

You make a good point. I'll agree with you.

Actually, How does the motion lines still being there show otherwise? Sasuke's blade pierces him and then the motion lines show Madara's hands swing up toward where the blade was to catch it. Sure, it was aimed toward the face on Madara's chest, but that doesn't mean that he didn't purposely stop to catch his blade. He was jumping back and evading his hits comfortably, I don't see why all of a sudden he'd get caught, when there was nothing to hinder him. Also, the bold doesn't make sense considering he swung his right hand away from where Sasuke was thrusting and toward where the blade was going. So there is no way you can claim that he tried to catch the blade before it pierced his arm.