dbz isn't that fast?

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Piccolo is the cleverest DBZ character so he would know that Raditz is faster than FTL and not all the Funimation Dub is wrong.

yes all of it is wrong. you cannot claim its right. it wasnt by akira toriyama and he never said it was canonical

The Dragon Fist can cancel Intangible beings as Goku did so against Hiru, watch the movie if you haven't seen it.

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irudegarn is untouchable, he was way to fast for Mystic Gohan and he couldn't even track Hiru's movements.

wrong. he didnt cancel hirudegarn whne he was intangible. he waited till hirudegarn solidified to attack and hit him then. gohan said hirudegarns weakness was that he lowers his defences the moment he attacks. how could you have missed that? idiot.
and if goku can cancel intangibility, why cant an omnipotent god? hirudegarn is just a berserker. he is nowhere near the best user of intangibility at all.
he even tripped and fell on a building.

He is the strongest Intangible user, as he can turn himself into a ILLUSION. You have no clue whatsoever.

you have no proof he turned himself into an illusion. he isnt itachi. he turned into physical mist. notice how no one actually tried to hit him in mist mode. because it only lasted a few seconds and was used in a manner akin to goku's teleportation to avoid attacks rather than letting them pass right through him. even ssj2 vegeta was landing hits. they just were too weak to do any visible damage. if he was so powerful why did he feel the need to transform against gotenks?
true intangibility users dont feel the need to attack because they can sit back and let attacks pass through them. hirudegarn is a dumb monstrous berserker like the bijuus in naruto. he doesnt know how to fight or exploit his powers. also if lesser beings can rob beings of their powers, kami tenchi can take the mist ability away from hirudegarn with a gesture.

 

[SSJ3Gotenks]

That's still you're opinion that the things are for kids, but in the end you're just failing at provoking me. The saddest part is you think those feats you mention beat Sonic?

When Goku can control time or has beaten multiverse busters as well as become one let me know. Go back to wanking to DBZ, because you're too ignorant to even try to debate with me on this. You don't know anything about Sonic and for the record, Frieza definitely did not fight tons of people while Goku sat on his ass or trained in a chamber as well as get healed. As for the picture, I don't see how Sonic would need to copy anything from Goku considering he's already got god level powers and speed transcending that. Hop off my **** because you aren't going to get me to rage if that's what you're aiming at, and you definitely aren't going to provoke me by fanboying and sucking on DBZ's nuts when I know the facts. Nice try.

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Well you obviously know nothing about DBZ... Frieza wasn't even trying when he fought the others hell he hadn't even reached his final form until right before Goku got there and even then he wasn't fighting at 100% until after Goku went SSJ. You can say what you want but Sonic has no room in this discussion as he is just a cheap childish ripoff of Mario and Goku.. Anyone that thinks Sonic is the best videogame character of all time really needs some help...

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Well you obviously know nothing about DBZ... Frieza wasn't even trying when he fought the others hell he hadn't even reached his final form until right before Goku got there and even then he wasn't fighting at 100% until after Goku went SSJ. You can say what you want but Sonic has no room in this discussion as he is just a cheap childish ripoff of Mario and Goku.. Anyone that thinks Sonic is the best videogame character of all time really needs some help...

How does Sonic have no room in a discussion about Sonic vs Guldo? The thread's discussion ended pages ago. Are you really that stupid? Sonic is not anything of the sort, you're just trying as hard as you can to make me mad because DBZ's side lost this debate. Lol

Anyone who thinks all other people don't have the same opinion as them needs to suck it up and accept it. Stop b*tching because Sonic's my favorite character. XD

 

[Guardian of Timeline]

No and no. First off you lie and contradict yourself so you don't look worse than you already do, then you try to talk about how we shouldn't post on this thead anymore (naturally, you continued to post). This isn't even a matter of opinion, I've disproved every way Guldo could even try to fight Sonic, so it's factual that Sonic wins. You've given no proof while I've supplied tons. Why the hell do you think you're the only one responding back to me? I disproved everyone else, and you don't have any proof yourself. Also, when did I refer to Sonic as a god specifically? I said time control is a godly power. Shadow > Vegeta has been proved. Superman > Goku has been proved. Sonic > Guldo has been proved. You lost about 5 times now to me, and you're still trying to argue back now with a new excuse of opinions. Don't misunderstand the concept of opinions, they're only of use if something isn't factual, which Sonic > Guldo has been proven to be. You only think Goku can beat Sonic verse because you're uninformed about Sonic and you've been stuck on DBZ. If you stopped wanking and do some research or play, read, and watch Sonic, you'll not arrive to the same conclusion. Don't even try to assume things when you know nothing about Sonic.

Nope. Guldo > Sonic Vegeta. > Shadow (proved by Death Battle. The people that you believe). Goku. > Superman

Again, Goku solos the entire Sonic verse with his pinky. Accept the truth or get out.

You're misinformed and stupid now? Sonic's speed and power surpass all of them, plus he has time manipulation powers. Also, who told you Sonic can't breathe in space? Whoever did lied to you. Ha, I wonder how misinformed you had to be to convince yourself of all of this. Don't even try me, kid. If you want to make false statements know what the hell you're talking about. Sonic runs fast in all versions, by the way. I'm starting to think you escaped your psych ward a little too early. But fine, show me SSJ or above Goku blowing up a planet? That's one thing you should be able to show me. The funniest part is you don't even know anything about Sonic and you proved it by your posts above. The reason it's funny is I know about Sonic and DBZ, and have factual information while you just give statements based on your current knowledge of DBZ alone. Please think before you post, don't be ignorant when you make baseless statements, and never go full retard.

PS: If you are offended by Autism, how about brain damaged ignorant retard who somehow escaped the crazy house with his weed, because your posts must have been made while you were high.

False. DBZ speed if just as immeasurable as there power. You don't understand DBZ true power so it's obvious you won't be able to understand there speed. Goku surpasses Sonic's speed and any other characters speed in his verse. Soak it up like a sponge because Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds. Water>Sonic

To be quite honest, you're just a mere child that dreamt that the Sonic verse could beat the DBZ verse in your imagination.

That's still you're opinion that the things are for kids, but in the end you're just failing at provoking me. The saddest part is you think those feats you mention beat Sonic?

When Goku can control time or has beaten multiverse busters as well as become one let me know. Go back to wanking to DBZ, because you're too ignorant to even try to debate with me on this. You don't know anything about Sonic and for the record, Frieza definitely did not fight tons of people while Goku sat on his ass or trained in a chamber as well as get healed. As for the picture, I don't see how Sonic would need to copy anything from Goku considering he's already got god level powers and speed transcending that. Hop off my **** because you aren't going to get me to rage if that's what you're aiming at, and you definitely aren't going to provoke me by fanboying and sucking on DBZ's nuts when I know the facts. Nice try.

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False. Goku has beaten Omniverse busters. Stop bringing the DBZ verse into this because we all know that Guldo, one of the weakest DBZ characters would solo Sonic and any other character in his verse. Stop being a ingnoramus and stop crying like a baby. Give up and accept the truth.

yes all of it is wrong. you cannot claim its right. it wasnt by akira toriyama and he never said it was canonical
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wrong. he didnt cancel hirudegarn whne he was intangible. he waited till hirudegarn solidified to attack and hit him then. gohan said hirudegarns weakness was that he lowers his defences the moment he attacks. how could you have missed that? idiot.
and if goku can cancel intangibility, why cant an omnipotent god? hirudegarn is just a berserker. he is nowhere near the best user of intangibility at all.
he even tripped and fell on a building.

you have no proof he turned himself into an illusion. he isnt itachi. he turned into physical mist. notice how no one actually tried to hit him in mist mode. because it only lasted a few seconds and was used in a manner akin to goku's teleportation to avoid attacks rather than letting them pass right through him. even ssj2 vegeta was landing hits. they just were too weak to do any visible damage. if he was so powerful why did he feel the need to transform against gotenks?
true intangibility users dont feel the need to attack because they can sit back and let attacks pass through them. hirudegarn is a dumb monstrous berserker like the bijuus in naruto. he doesnt know how to fight or exploit his powers. also if lesser beings can rob beings of their powers, kami tenchi can take the mist ability away from hirudegarn with a gesture.

False. The Funi Dub is not all wrong.

Supreme Kai stated that entire Galaxies got erased from existence in Funi dub and the episode showed a Galaxy getting erased so it can't all be wrong. Idiot. Hiru is the strongest Intangible user. Goku stated that its like fighting a illusion when he was getting stomped by Hiru.

Sounds to me like you're just being a little crybaby **** who can't deal with losing. Go wipe your tears with your wank rag. Time freeze wouldn't work deal with it, Chaos Control = Guldo's power so they would cancel out and without that Guldo has nothing(as was shown in DBZ) If you hadn't been so arrogant and picked a different(stronger) character you may have had a case. Guldo though, no chance.

False. You're just a clueless child like the rest.
Guldo beats Sonic because of his Time Freeze and Telekinesis. Deal with it and understand the truth.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Nope. Guldo > Sonic Vegeta. > Shadow (proved by Death Battle. The people that you believe). Goku. > Superman

Again, Goku solos the entire Sonic verse with his pinky. Accept the truth or get out

False. DBZ speed if just as immeasurable as there power. You don't understand DBZ true power so it's obvious you won't be able to understand there speed. Goku surpasses Sonic's speed and any other characters speed in his verse. Soak it up like a sponge because Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds. Water>Sonic

To be quite honest, you're just a mere child that dreamt that the Sonic verse could beat the DBZ verse in your imagination.




False. Goku has beaten Omniverse busters. Stop bringing the DBZ verse into this because we all know that Guldo, one of the weakest DBZ characters would solo Sonic and any other character in his verse. Stop being a ingnoramus and stop crying like a baby. Give up and accept the truth.






False. The Funi Dub is not all wrong.

Supreme Kai stated that entire Galaxies got erased from existence in Funi dub and the episode showed a Galaxy getting erased so it can't all be wrong. Idiot. Hiru is the strongest Intangible user. Goku stated that its like fighting a illusion when he was getting stomped by Hiru.



False. You're just a clueless child like the rest.
Guldo beats Sonic because of his Time Freeze and Telekinesis. Deal with it and understand the truth.

Time freeze would do nothing clueless child, just like it did nothing in DBZ except against a clueless child like yourself. Deal with it, deal with your falseyness understand you are false, deal.

 

[Guardian of Timeline]

Time freeze would do nothing clueless child, just like it did nothing in DBZ except against a clueless child like yourself. Deal with it, deal with your falseyness understand you are false, deal.

Look kid, stop posting complete and utter bullsh!t and accept that Guldo beats Sonic. Time Freeze + Telekinesis = Sonic dead

Deal with it and move on

 

[chopstickchakra]

Look kid, stop posting complete and utter bullsh!t and accept that Guldo beats Sonic. Time Freeze + Telekinesis = Sonic dead

Deal with it and move on

False, deal with it.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Nope. Guldo > Sonic Vegeta. > Shadow (proved by Death Battle. The people that you believe). Goku. > Superman

Again, Goku solos the entire Sonic verse with his pinky. Accept the truth or get out.





False. DBZ speed if just as immeasurable as there power. You don't understand DBZ true power so it's obvious you won't be able to understand there speed. Goku surpasses Sonic's speed and any other characters speed in his verse. Soak it up like a sponge because Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds. Water>Sonic

To be quite honest, you're just a mere child that dreamt that the Sonic verse could beat the DBZ verse in your imagination.




False. Goku has beaten Omniverse busters. Stop bringing the DBZ verse into this because we all know that Guldo, one of the weakest DBZ characters would solo Sonic and any other character in his verse. Stop being a ingnoramus and stop crying like a baby. Give up and accept the truth.

I wasn't the one to bring DBZ verse into this, and Sonic still beats Guldo. Sonic has two forms of time stop that are faster than Guldo's, and telekenesis won't kill Sonic. (It's been tried before). Shadow >>>>> Vegeta unless Vegeta can control time and becomes resistant to chaos blast when he has no defenses. Superman >>>>>>>> Goku. All of these debates are over, and have been proven. Guldo can't solo anyone until you prove it, which you can't.

Also, I guess you missed the Sonic vs Goku thread, because it was deleted recently.

I won't go into Sonic's durability feats, so don't think throwing rocks at Sonic would help. (Not that Guldo would be able to get Sonic into a time stop).

 

[Guardian of Timeline]

I wasn't the one to bring DBZ verse into this, and Sonic still beats Guldo. Sonic has two forms of time stop that are faster than Guldo's, and telekenesis won't kill Sonic. (It's been tried before). Shadow >>>>> Vegeta unless Vegeta can control time and becomes resistant to chaos blast when he has no defenses. Superman >>>>>>>> Goku. All of these debates are over, and have been proven. Guldo can't solo anyone until you prove it, which you can't.

Also, I guess you missed the Sonic vs Goku thread, because it was deleted recently.

I won't go into Sonic's durability feats, so don't think throwing rocks at Sonic would help. (Not that Guldo would be able to get Sonic into a time stop).

Invalid. Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds and Guldo would just use his Time Freeze technique before Sonic could even move. Then when Sonic can't move, Guldo will throw water on Sonic and then he will use his Telekinesis and that will paralyse Sonic even more because of the water causing serious damage. Game over. Guldo > Sonic

You just can't admit that Sonic gets beat by a weak character from DBZ, even though Guldo has the tools to beat him.

Death Battle already stated that Vegeta beats Sonic and he wasn't even a SS2 when he stomped him. Vegeta > Shadow

Goku > Superman. No explanation as its been proven time and time again.

I didn't miss the Goku vs Sonic thread and the guy who created it is as worse as you. I really don't wont to use this logic but I'm going too. Death Battle obviously said that Vegeta beats Shadow and if they did a Goku vs Sonic battle, they would obviously say that Goku wins. Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Sonic is stronger than Shadow. And again, Vegeta wasn't even a SSJ2 when he beat Shadow. Goku > Sonic and his verse


Seriously, comparing Sonic to DBZ is like believing that YouTube video between Goku and Mario, created by little kids that dreamt that Mario would beat Goku. You are indeed the same but the only difference is, it's a goddamn hedgehog.

False, deal with it.

Yh, carry on repeating on why you've lost. You're a joke.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Now I remember why I never view this forum, pple believing hedgehogs can be put in vs thread with some of the strongest characters to be drawn.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Invalid. Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds and Guldo would just use his Time Freeze technique before Sonic could even move. Then when Sonic can't move, Guldo will throw water on Sonic and then he will use his Telekinesis and that will paralyse Sonic even more because of the water causing serious damage. Game over. Guldo > Sonic

You just can't admit that Sonic gets beat by a weak character from DBZ, even though Guldo has the tools to beat him.

Death Battle already stated that Vegeta beats Sonic and he wasn't even a SS2 when he stomped him. Vegeta > Shadow

Goku > Superman. No explanation as its been proven time and time again.

I didn't miss the Goku vs Sonic thread and the guy who created it is as worse as you. I really don't wont to use this logic but I'm going too. Death Battle obviously said that Vegeta beats Shadow and if they did a Goku vs Sonic battle, they would obviously say that Goku wins. Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Sonic is stronger than Shadow. And again, Vegeta wasn't even a SSJ2 when he beat Shadow. Goku > Sonic and his verse


Seriously, comparing Sonic to DBZ is like believing that YouTube video between Goku and Mario, created by little kids that dreamt that Mario would beat Goku. You are indeed the same but the only difference is, it's a goddamn hedgehog.


Yh, carry on repeating on why you've lost. You're a joke.

Invalid. Deal with it. Understand how to deal with it and deal with understanding. You lose, I win. Deal with it. Bils is weak deal with it.

 

[Trollasaur]

Goku said the Instant Transmission let him travel at light speed.

That's dbz speed for ya

No Instant transmission is instant.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Invalid. Sonic is weak without the Chaos Emeralds and Guldo would just use his Time Freeze technique before Sonic could even move. Then when Sonic can't move, Guldo will throw water on Sonic and then he will use his Telekinesis and that will paralyse Sonic even more because of the water causing serious damage. Game over. Guldo > Sonic

You just can't admit that Sonic gets beat by a weak character from DBZ, even though Guldo has the tools to beat him.

Death Battle already stated that Vegeta beats Sonic and he wasn't even a SS2 when he stomped him. Vegeta > Shadow

Goku > Superman. No explanation as its been proven time and time again.

I didn't miss the Goku vs Sonic thread and the guy who created it is as worse as you. I really don't wont to use this logic but I'm going too. Death Battle obviously said that Vegeta beats Shadow and if they did a Goku vs Sonic battle, they would obviously say that Goku wins. Goku is stronger than Vegeta and Sonic is stronger than Shadow. And again, Vegeta wasn't even a SSJ2 when he beat Shadow. Goku > Sonic and his verse


Seriously, comparing Sonic to DBZ is like believing that YouTube video between Goku and Mario, created by little kids that dreamt that Mario would beat Goku. You are indeed the same but the only difference is, it's a goddamn hedgehog.


Yh, carry on repeating on why you've lost. You're a joke.

Again, you've lost.

How is Sonic weak without the Chaos Emeralds? He's an embodiment of Chaos himself. Guldo can't do time stop instantaneously, he has to hold his breath. Sonic can do his easily faster if he doesn't shred through Guldo first. Also, throwing water on Sonic doesn't affect him. I already told you it's not his "kryptonite" anymore. You don't pay attention. What I can't believe is you're still trying to debate something you already lost. You have no proof whatsoever.

Superman > Goku, already proven.

How does Vegeta beat Shadow just because some people made a fanmade video say so? You're very ignorant. How could you even think that after criticizing Screwattack time after time? Sonic > Goku and Shadow > Vegeta until you prove otherwise. GG.

Now I remember why I never view this forum, pple believing hedgehogs can be put in vs thread with some of the strongest characters to be drawn.

DBZ isn't even top 10, so no they aren't some of the strongest, and these "hedgehogs" have them beat in no time, literally. Now I remember why you don't view this forum, you probably got driven out for being so ignorant.

 

[Guardian of Timeline]

Again, you've lost.

How is Sonic weak without the Chaos Emeralds? He's an embodiment of Chaos himself. Guldo can't do time stop instantaneously, he has to hold his breath. Sonic can do his easily faster if he doesn't shred through Guldo first. Also, throwing water on Sonic doesn't affect him. I already told you it's not his "kryptonite" anymore. You don't pay attention. What I can't believe is you're still trying to debate something you already lost. You have no proof whatsoever.

Superman > Goku, already proven.

How does Vegeta beat Shadow just because some people made a fanmade video say so? You're very ignorant. How could you even think that after criticizing Screwattack time after time? Sonic > Goku and Shadow > Vegeta until you prove otherwise. GG.



DBZ isn't even top 10, so no they aren't some of the strongest, and these "hedgehogs" have them beat in no time, literally. Now I remember why you don't view this forum, you probably got driven out for being so ignorant.

Again, you just can't admit defeat. Guldo would stop Sonic before he could do anything and his Telekinesis would paralyse him and he'd throw rocks at him, or a Ki blast. Guldo > Sonic

Goku > Superman

Vegeta > Shadow (Death Battle people thought Shadow could rival Vegeta) He stands no chance against him

Goku > Sonic and his verse

Again, accept the truth that Guldo stomps Sonic or leave and we'll settle this else where.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Again, you just can't admit defeat. Guldo would stop Sonic before he could do anything and his Telekinesis would paralyse him and he'd throw rocks at him, or a Ki blast. Guldo > Sonic

Goku > Superman

Vegeta > Shadow (Death Battle people thought Shadow could rival Vegeta) He stands no chance against him

Goku > Sonic and his verse

Again, accept the truth that Guldo stomps Sonic or leave and we'll settle this else where.

I didn't want to mention this since you already lost but even if Guldo were to be able to stop time (he wouldn't get the chance), Sonic could easily use Chaos Control and proceed to kick his ass. There's multiple ways Sonic could destroy Guldo.

Superman >>>>> Goku

Shadow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegeta

Sonic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku

If you're so damn confident, stop saying X over Y an prove it. Oh, you can't.

 

[Itachi75]

I didn't want to mention this since you already lost but even if Guldo were to be able to stop time (he wouldn't get the chance), Sonic could easily use Chaos Control and proceed to kick his ass. There's multiple ways Sonic could destroy Guldo.

Superman >>>>> Goku

Shadow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegeta

Sonic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku

If you're so damn confident, stop saying X over Y an prove it. Oh, you can't.

superman took a blast the equivalent of two big bangs, so two universe busting attacks. that is alot more than sonic has ever tanked.
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Goku would be lucky to be able to tank a planet busting attack a blast from the death start could kill him.
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Sonic probably could survive though

 

[chopstickchakra]

superman took a blast the equivalent of two big bangs, so two universe busting attacks. that is alot more than sonic has ever tanked.
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Goku would be lucky to be able to tank a planet busting attack a blast from the death start could kill him.
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Sonic probably could survive though

The Big Bang isn't a universe "busting" attack it's a universe "creating" attack if anything and he never said Sonic>Superman.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

superman took a blast the equivalent of two big bangs, so two universe busting attacks. that is alot more than sonic has ever tanked.
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Goku would be lucky to be able to tank a planet busting attack a blast from the death start could kill him.
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Sonic probably could survive though

Lol "Probably"

Who told you it's more than Sonic's ever tanked? And when did I even mention Superman feats vs Sonic feats? Sonic's already tanked attacks from multiverse busters. XD

EDIT: Lmao, did you say that because I put more >s for Sonic ? XD XD

 

[chopstickchakra]

Lol "Probably"

Who told you it's more than Sonic's ever tanked? And when did I even mention Superman feats vs Sonic feats? Sonic's already tanked attacks from multiverse busters. XD

EDIT: Lmao, did you say that because I put more >s for Sonic ? XD XD

That's what I thought as well. But I ask you how does Sonic fair in the Sun? and I don't mean in Earth's atmosphere I mean 2-300 feet away?

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

That's what I thought as well. But I ask you how does Sonic fair in the Sun? and I don't mean in Earth's atmosphere I mean 2-300 feet away?

Depends on if he wants to warp time or warp reality. Why would he try to spin dash into the Sun? Lol