Danzo and Hiruzen vs Gai and Kakashi

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Intel:

Manga intel.

Conditions:

Danzo starts with his arm brace off. Hiruzen is alive and the same age as he was during the Kyubi attack. All characters start in base. Kakashi and Gai are War Arc.

Distance:

60 meters.

Restrictions:

KA, 8 Gates, Kamui. Danzo not allowed to izanagi-respawn closer than 5 meters to an opponent.

Alternate scenario:

7th Gate is restricted as well.

Who wins, the Light and Shadow of the Leaf, or the Masters?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The masters. Hiruzen gets blitzed by kakashi or guy. Then it's 2 v 1.

 

[Demonic.]

Those two clowns aren't sensors, and I'm pretty sure they had no intel on Danzos izanagi.

Danzo solos.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Those two clowns aren't sensors, and I'm pretty sure they had no intel on Danzos izanagi.

Danzo solos.

Neither is sasuke yet he pulled a win. Kakashi is way more observant of his opponents than Sasuke is. Applying pressure for ten minutes isn't a problem.

 

[Demonic.]

Neither is sasuke yet he pulled a win. Kakashi is way more observant of his opponents than Sasuke is. Applying pressure for ten minutes isn't a problem.

Sasuke had ribcage Susano to protect him from Danzo's sneak attack.

 

[V h o]

With these restrictions, team 1 wins imo.

 

[super yang]

wut is the danzo holding in right arm? (awesome pic, every time I see it)

the elders win both scenarios, gai will get hit by enma or caught in a wind combo. full Hirudora could counter baku if hiruzen doesn't aid him. peacock isn't a problem either way.

kakashi is categorically outclassed by either old dude.

 

[LuckyMan]

Danzo and Hiruzen wins. Sasuke only survived Izanagi because he had a constant defense structure surrounding his body and protecting him. The Jonin have no such defense and sadly they fall victim to it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Sasuke had ribcage Susano to protect him from Danzo's sneak attack.

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They leave their backs to each other. Besides kakashi can sense via air waves, sound and smell. Sasuke was able to pressure danzo without susanoo towards the end of the fight anyways.

 

[KidGamer65]

S1: Gai enters the 7th Gate, enters CQC with Hiruzen, dominates him, while Kakashi holds off Danzo. Then Gai comes to help Kakashi.

S2: Same happens, but Gai uses the 6th Gate instead of the 7th Gate.

Izanagi respawn argument is retarded in this case considering Danzo can only respawn 5 meters or more, from the target. If you think Danzo will respawn and cross 5 meters without Gai or Kakashi detecting him, then you have another thing coming.

 

[LuckyMan]

They leave their backs to each other. Besides kakashi can sense via air waves, sound and smell. Sasuke was able to pressure danzo without susanoo towards the end of the fight anyways.

A Danzo who had used all his Sharingan. A Danzo who was exhausted from using many jutsu on top of using KA ( a technique that requires 10 year cool down from chakra drain) just a couple hours earlier. A Danzo with one arm. Those things matter, don't forget them.

They both have to get close to kill him (not including Day Time Tiger but using that would just seal their loss to the Old Timers) and when they touch him he touches them too and its Curse Seal on them GG. He'll just respawn unscathed after they think they've "killed" him and activate it then they become sitting ducks, GG.

 

[Braiyan]

Hiruzen got blitzed by Mindless Juubito while 7th Gate Guy surprised Juubidara with his speed. Guy goes into 7th Gate and blitzes Hiruzen easily, then helps Kakashi take out Danzo by repeatedly blitzing him as well.

In the alternate scenario Guy is still significantly faster than both Hiruzen and Danzo in the 6th Gate, and can still overwhelm Hiruzen with speed and a tidal-wave sized Morning Peacock. He takes out Hiruzen like before, then helps Kakashi overwhelm Danzo.

 

[Demonic.]

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They leave their backs to each other. Besides kakashi can sense via air waves, sound and smell. Sasuke was able to pressure danzo without susanoo towards the end of the fight anyways.

Why would they do that with no intel on Danzos Izanagi? One of them has a high chance of being killed off the first time Danzo is seemingly killed and respwans .

I didn't read that 5 meter condition though

S1: Gai enters the 7th Gate, enters CQC with Hiruzen, dominates him, while Kakashi holds off Danzo. Then Gai comes to help Kakashi.

S2: Same happens, but Gai uses the 6th Gate instead of the 7th Gate.

Izanagi respawn argument is retarded in this case considering Danzo can only respawn 5 meters or more, from the target. If you think Danzo will respawn and cross 5 meters without Gai or Kakashi detecting him, then you have another thing coming.

I really think you're underestimating Danzo's ability to kill a 3T Kakashi while Gai deals with Hiruzen and Enma in scenario 1. The Baku, Futon, and curse mark is enough to deal with kakashi.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I love how team battle arguments always try to separate them.

Although you limited Danzo's Izanami spawn, Sharingan Genjutsu still plays a role.

Step 1: Danzo dies
Step 2: Danzo spawns and calls Guy out "Pisst, im over here"
Step 3: Danzo catches Guy in a Sharingan Genjutsu, that he had no intel of.

 

[ARGUS]

Kakashi and Guy most likely win both scenarios

--Hiruzen gets wrecked by gated guy, the latter doesnt even need to use his hirudora or MP, as his taijutsu alone would blitz him and allow him to kick him in half

--Kakashi can most certainly hold off danzo and he can figure out the mechanics of izanagi as well, as once guy comes back, danzo would get killed,

--baku gets taken out by morning peacock, and with kakashi being able to see danzos sharingans through his own, means that he would know when danzo runs out of his izanagi therefore allowing the duo to finish him off through a raikiri or a hirudora

 

[BenjerminGaye]

A Danzo who had used all his Sharingan. A Danzo who was exhausted from using many jutsu on top of using KA ( a technique that requires 10 year cool down from chakra drain) just a couple hours earlier. A Danzo with one arm. Those things matter, don't forget them.

They both have to get close to kill him (not including Day Time Tiger but using that would just seal their loss to the Old Timers) and when they touch him he touches them too and its Curse Seal on them GG. He'll just respawn unscathed after they think they've "killed" him and activate it then they become sitting ducks, GG.

He hadn't. Sasuke was able to pressure him when he was down to his 4th eye without susanno. That's 4 minutes. KA'KA ' S cooldown down time has no connection to its chakra consumption. Don't know where you got that from. Danzo still had both hands at the time as well.

False. There's a river below and both have long range techniques. Curse Seal is negated by clones feint.
Kakashi has experience against this type of foe through kakazu. When he respawns he shifts air waves, and creates sound. Not to mention his smell.

@An Awesome Senju:multiple opponents?that's the reason they did it in the scan. Until Hiruzen dies that is.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I love how team battle arguments always try to separate them.

Although you limited Danzo's Izanami spawn, Sharingan Genjutsu still plays a role.

Step 1: Danzo dies
Step 2: Danzo spawns and calls Guy out "Pisst, im over here"
Step 3: Danzo catches Guy in a Sharingan Genjutsu, that he had no intel of.

Guy fights by watching feet. Good luck catching him in genjutsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Guy fights by watching feet. Good luck catching him in genjutsu.

No he fights like that against a Sharingan user, which he has no idea that Danzo is.

 

[Beans2]

Question: Why would Hirudora (which is just air pressure) affect Baku, something that is constantly inhaling lots of air?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No he fights like that against a Sharingan user, which he has no idea that Danzo is.

Sees 10 sharingan on and in his had at the beginning of fight, assumes he isn't a sharingan user. Bruh.