Curse Mark 1 Sasuke vs SRA Rock Lee w/ Gates

slimreaper · Mar 7, 2014

Evani said:
Whether or not lee noted sasuke is fast isn't my problem..did sasuke see lee fight gaara..he would have been left speechless by his speed..sasuke in part 1 is nothing compared to gated lee when it comes to speed..you have to be joking if you really believe sasuke is on gated lee's level in terms of speed..that's just a joke..then again sasuke takes a lot of stamina to maintain that speed..when lee had a 4 in speed at that time in the DB..sasuke has a 3 in speed...and im pretty sure DB rates them in terms of base speed or else naruto would have a 5 as well with his kcm in the 3rd DB rating so it's obvious it's without enhancements..kimmimaro also noted lee to be very fast as well..so it's just not gaara

1. KCM isn't in the new databook

2. The three tomoe sharingan would compensate

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add the curse mark and the fact that lee would be tearing himself apart and its an easy win for sasuke.

Haizaki · Mar 7, 2014

slimreaper said:
1. KCM isn't in the new databook

2. The three tomoe sharingan would compensate

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add the curse mark and the fact that lee would be tearing himself apart and its an easy win for sasuke.

Naruto who fought orochimaru was in the DB...4 tailed naruto definitely had a 5 in speed

slimreaper · Mar 7, 2014

Evani said:
Naruto who fought orochimaru was in the DB...4 tailed naruto definitely had a 5 in speed

that isn't naruto. that is the nine tails. It doesn't count the bijuu taking over

Curse Mark · Mar 7, 2014

slimreaper said:
kakashi only said he was fast. He never once said damn my sharingan can't see him. Kakashi was merely surprised b y that speed.

naruto arguably moved that fast here

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If you could figure out how to work spoilers and/or links

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Evani said:
Wrong

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lol shat on

Bieber · Mar 7, 2014

Evani said:
Doesn't really mean that..he may also not be able to see him and still say that while he's being hit but can tell where it's coming

Wasn't referring to your post.

shelke · Mar 7, 2014

~Sky~ said:
Beaten badly? Earlier you said mid difference:

Surely the fifth Gate would push it to high in your eyes wouldn't it?

In terms of speed, Lee's shown far more control and change of direction than 1 Tailed Naruto has.

I don't think it would. You are slighting CM1 Vote Sasuke and One-Tailed Naruto's speed. That is not all. All Lee has is CQC, Sasuke has Katon attacks, Shuriken-jutsu, Chidori, and a far superior intellect to come up with better strategies. One cannot just overlook these and grant Lee a win just because he can use fifth gate.

dkdankong said:
It isn't smh.

Lol ctfu since when am I a fan of Lee or Gai?
Lee was literally moving so fast he couldn't be seen by the naked eye and it surprised even Kakashi with his sharingan. When did Naruto ever move that fast? That still hasn't been mentioned.

Made up, literally. And no, no one was talking to you or even alluding to you.

EternalFlame · Mar 7, 2014

Intent to kill?

Sasuke wins.

All this talk about the Sake and Gates... right and Sasuke will just stand there and let Lee open the gates or drink his sake? Sasuke's base speed at this point at MINIMUM is equal to unweighted Lee speed... add the 3T Sharingan and it's prediction ability into the mix and Sasuke will comfortably win.

Transcendence · Mar 7, 2014

I swear, Shelke and Slim think Sasuke wins every match-up...

OT: Lee wins with a lot of difficulty. If they engage in CQC Sasuke is obviously disposed of quite quickly. His best bet is to hound Lee with repeated Katon's boosted by the first stage Curse Mark, and this is with keeping his distance. However, Lee effortlessly dodges those Katon and closes the gap with the utmost certainty, forcing Sasuke in to CQC to which he gets pummeled. I retract my "a lot of difficulty stance". I'm giving this to Lee with mid difficulty.

paratise · Mar 7, 2014

Katsura said:
I swear, Shelke and Slim think Sasuke wins every match-up.

Didn't you read the part of manga that Sasuke is stated to be an insurpassable God and genius who can do anything he wants to his opponent and have always been accomplished feats while the opponent always happen to get little? Lol

shelke · Mar 7, 2014

Katsura said:
I swear, Shelke and Slim think Sasuke wins every match-up...

OT: Lee wins with a lot of difficulty. If they engage in CQC Sasuke is obviously disposed of quite quickly. His best bet is to hound Lee with repeated Katon's boosted by the first stage Curse Mark, and this is with keeping his distance. However, Lee effortlessly dodges those Katon and closes the gap with the utmost certainty, forcing Sasuke in to CQC to which he gets pummeled. I retract my "a lot of difficulty stance". I'm giving this to Lee with mid difficulty.

How mature.

@Cat

That surely proves everybody wrong.

Transcendence · Mar 7, 2014

shelke said:
How mature.

I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. But literally every match-up that involves Sasuke that I see you comment on, it seems you believe he wins, and most of the time without effort. That's all I was saying.

BenjerminGaye · Mar 7, 2014

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Location: Chunnin Exams Stadium

Distance: 10 Meters

Intel: Manga

Intent: To Kill

Restrictions: CM2, Gates past 5

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Version of Each:

Sasuke is Valley of the End with 3T and Full Control over CM1

Rock Lee is Unweighted has a bottle of Sake and has full control over the 5 Gates

You do know that sra rock Lee is slower than chunin exams rock Lee right?

paratise · Mar 7, 2014

shelke said:
That surely proves everybody wrong.

Never meant to prove anyone wrong.

shelke · Mar 7, 2014

Katsura said:
I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. But literally every match-up that involves Sasuke that I see you comment on, it seems you believe he wins, and most of the time without effort. That's all I was saying.

So? I actually offer a decent analysis and back it up with actual feats every time. I don't care whether you agree with me or not, but don't ever single me out again without taking a good hard look at Lee's defense claims that are as laughable as they can get.

Outlandish claims for this guy litter the thread with nothing to back them up and I am getting singled out?

fastrthnwind · Mar 7, 2014

shelke said:
So? I actually offer a decent analysis and back it up with actual feats every time. I don't care whether you agree with me or not, but don't ever single me out again without taking a good hard look at Lee's defense claims that are as laughable as they can get.

Outlandish claims for this guy litter the thread with nothing to back them up and I am getting singled out?

Sounds like someone has a hard time dealing with other peoples ideas.....

But then again, ive seen you in a lot of places claiming that sasuke/itachi/uchihas in general will win any matchup with relatively low difficulty like they are some indestructable gods who have better feats than people who were actually noted to be and shown performing feats that greatly outdo whatever feats the uchiha have shown.

Since i know this will be brought up to counter me in spite ill bring it up myself. I favor hyuugas in many fights because I believe they have potential to beat certain higher level characters and are very strong in general, however, despite how powerful i may think them to be, they have limits and i am very well aware of those limits and I am also aware that there are plenty of shinobi people out there who will beat them reguardless of how much I might want them to win and I will openly say it as well.

Your justifications in this case are so unjustified because the claims you are making directly conflict with what has actually taken place in the manga and even the databook. No matter how fast you think sasuke is, Lee has always demonstrated superior speed and CQC ability that left jounin and even kage level shinobi in awe. Trying to compare the power of gates to the power of the curse mark in of itself is rather foolish considering the amount of power displayed by each character using said modes.

CM Sasuke - gains a significant power boost to his ninjutsu and slightly enhanced speed/strength at the cost to his mental sanity. people were a but surprised at the enhanced sasuke, but his most notable trait that every single person has stated when he used this mode was that he had a very dark aura about him and he was suddenly very ruthless and cruel to his opponents.

Gated Lee - gains a MASSIVE strength and speed boost that literally destroyed the ground he was running on at the cost to his physical health. People from he balcony had to brave themselves from the amount of debris and shockwaves produced by his power and speed. People barring those with doujutsu said he was so fast that their eyes could no longer keep up with him. He would have killed gaara instantly had it not been for the gourd breaking his fall after his sand shield failed to hold up from Lees onslaught.

I could keep going, but I would rather stop right here, knowing that you will still post how much "garbage" I have posted and that sasuke is underrated, lee/gates overrated etc.

UchihaNagashi · Mar 7, 2014

Katsura said:
I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. But literally every match-up that involves Sasuke that I see you comment on, it seems you believe he wins, and most of the time without effort. That's all I was saying.

It could be because he posts on the match-ups that are pretty much debatable. It's not odd to lean on you favorite character's side.

Curse Mark · Mar 7, 2014

shelke said:
I don't think it would. You are slighting CM1 Vote Sasuke and One-Tailed Naruto's speed. That is not all. All Lee has is CQC, Sasuke has Katon attacks, Shuriken-jutsu, Chidori, and a far superior intellect to come up with better strategies. One cannot just overlook these and grant Lee a win just because he can use fifth gate.

Made up, literally. And no, no one was talking to you or even alluding to you.

Which part was made up? The scans have already been posted in this thread I don't get what's so hard to follow.

shelke said:
So? I actually offer a decent analysis and back it up with actual feats every time. I don't care whether you agree with me or not, but don't ever single me out again without taking a good hard look at Lee's defense claims that are as laughable as they can get.

Outlandish claims for this guy litter the thread with nothing to back them up and I am getting singled out?

Bold for super tough stand up against bullies power.

shelke · Mar 7, 2014

fastrthnwind said:
Sounds like someone has a hard time dealing with other peoples ideas.....

But then again, ive seen you in a lot of places claiming that sasuke/itachi/uchihas in general will win any matchup with relatively low difficulty like they are some indestructable gods who have better feats than people who were actually noted to be and shown performing feats that greatly outdo whatever feats the uchiha have shown.

Since i know this will be brought up to counter me in spite ill bring it up myself. I favor hyuugas in many fights because I believe they have potential to beat certain higher level characters and are very strong in general, however, despite how powerful i may think them to be, they have limits and i am very well aware of those limits and I am also aware that there are plenty of shinobi people out there who will beat them reguardless of how much I might want them to win and I will openly say it as well.

Your justifications in this case are so unjustified because the claims you are making directly conflict with what has actually taken place in the manga and even the databook. No matter how fast you think sasuke is, Lee has always demonstrated superior speed and CQC ability that left jounin and even kage level shinobi in awe. Trying to compare the power of gates to the power of the curse mark in of itself is rather foolish considering the amount of power displayed by each character using said modes.

CM Sasuke - gains a significant power boost to his ninjutsu and slightly enhanced speed/strength at the cost to his mental sanity. people were a but surprised at the enhanced sasuke, but his most notable trait that every single person has stated when he used this mode was that he had a very dark aura about him and he was suddenly very ruthless and cruel to his opponents.

Gated Lee - gains a MASSIVE strength and speed boost that literally destroyed the ground he was running on at the cost to his physical health. People from he balcony had to brave themselves from the amount of debris and shockwaves produced by his power and speed. People barring those with doujutsu said he was so fast that their eyes could no longer keep up with him. He would have killed gaara instantly had it not been for the gourd breaking his fall after his sand shield failed to hold up from Lees onslaught.

I could keep going, but I would rather stop right here, knowing that you will still post how much "garbage" I have posted and that sasuke is underrated, lee/gates overrated etc.

Not really. People here could wish I would have a hard time over petty debates.

Sasuke's speed and tactics were complimented by Orochimaru, Zabuza, Haku, and several people, including Kakashi and Gai present during the Chunin exams. Why ignore the other side? Sasuke even landed several decisive hits on a transformed Gaara, reacted to guard against his attacks, but got bested because of CS paralyzing him. Yet Lee, despite using gates didn't push Gaara to transformation and got his leg crushed. Isn't that a funny though?

Don't bite off more than you can chew. The manga has shown the Uchihas to be powerful. You should take this quarrel to the author, not me.

Perhaps I should post a comprehensive comparison. Not that it would change anything but regardless, as I suppose words are not enough:

Lee's Fight: