Current Orochimaru vs Current Kakashi

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Also, I dont uderstand this part. Its Orochimarus durability that makes him so hard to kill.
Not exactly. The first image in the OP shows that Oro can be cut, it's just that he always seems to find a way to bring himself back together.

Raikiri would be more than enough to kill Oro with these conditions.
 

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Not exactly. The first image in the OP shows that Oro can be cut, it's just that he always seems to find a way to bring himself back together.

Raikiri would be more than enough to kill Oro with these conditions.
Well, I suspect what sharingansennin had in his mind, but in this case OP should mention that Oros regeneration is restricted instead of saying that hes durable. Orochimaru was the guy who could be cut in half, yet that didnt even faze him - thats the finest example of Orochimarus durabily. That would make things clear. Thats what Im talking about.
 
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oro wins
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nothing kakashi can do to this guy
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I think Kakashi wins still. He is more analytical in my opinion, has the 3T pre-cog, and utilizes bunshins to such an extreme degree.

Still not seeing how that changes anything, but ok.
 

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He frightened Kakashi, yes, but the fight never occured.
Not to mention using Part 1 Kakashi in an argument against current Kakashi is like saying Zabuza stomps Sasuke, because when they met in the Land of Waves arc, Sasuke almost shat his pants in fear.

Lel. Orochimaru who wasn't even looking at Kakashi, paralysed him with visions of death so he couldn't move and started to sweat massively. The only foe that withstood Killing Intent as shown in manga, was 9 tails.

Also it depends on what OP meant by 'no invincibility'. Does Orochimaru have access to his True Form? Without True Form, invincibility and ET, Kakashi might push him to some difficulty, actually. With his True Form, Orochimaru low diff.
 
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Kakashi wins. He is faster, smarter, better in taijutsu and ninjutsu. With Sharingan he can predict all Orochimaru's movements and act accordingly(with deceiving clones or lightning clones, kawarimi and so on) or put him in a genjutsu even. Has a greater range and destructive close range attack. Orochimaru doesn't even possess Kusanagi anymore which makes his attack poor even more pitful than it already was

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Well, I suspect what sharingansennin had in his mind, but in this case OP should mention that Oros regeneration is restricted instead of saying that hes durable. Orochimaru was the guy who could be cut in half, yet that didnt even faze him - thats the finest example of Orochimarus durabily. That would make things clear. Thats what Im talking about.
Durability refers to the ability to withstand damage, something Oro can't do. That's more along the lines of the 3rd Raikage. He can, however, regenerate, which is restricted in this battle.

Kakashi takes him mid-diff.
 

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Kakashi wins. He is faster, smarter, better in taijutsu and ninjutsu. With Sharingan he can predict all Orochimaru's movements and act accordingly(with deceiving clones or lightning clones, kawarimi and so on) or put him in a genjutsu even. Has a greater range and destructive close range attack. Orochimaru doesn't even possess Kusanagi anymore which makes his attack poor even more pitful than it already was

Kakashi would definitely have troubles with Manda, While he's fast enough to keep up with v2 jins, Manda is too big to be hurt by lightining chain. Also Orochimaru's oral rebirth is a pain in the ass, Kakashi doesn't have high chakra reserves to keep killing Orochimaru while he keeps using that technique.

PD: Forgot, Orochimaru can go Hydra mode, wich is too big for Kakashi without kamui.
 

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you people overhype kamui so much its reached the point of redicilous.

one simply cant open his mouth about kakashi or obito without the word kamui being thrown at his face

Orochimaro is extremely clever and knowledgable, had techniques that overcame Amaterasu, I have no doubt he can overcome kamui as well.
 

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you people overhype kamui so much its reached the point of redicilous.

one simply cant open his mouth about kakashi or obito without the word kamui being thrown at his face

Orochimaro is extremely clever and knowledgable, had techniques that overcame Amaterasu, I have no doubt he can overcome kamui as well.

Kamui is restricted here homie.

And no, Orochimaru can0t overcome kamui
 

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Kamui is restricted here homie.

And no, Orochimaru can0t overcome kamui

This. Saying Orochimaru "probably can overcome Kamui because he can overcome Amaterasu" is a poor argument.
 

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This. Saying Orochimaru "probably can overcome Kamui because he can overcome Amaterasu" is a poor argument.
Looks at avatar =>> sees obito, looks at watch, 5 seconds of my life was just wasted on another fanboy.
Kamui is restricted here homie.

And no, Orochimaru can0t overcome kamui
Make that 10

And dont fukking call me homie.
 

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Looks at avatar =>> sees obito, looks at watch, 5 seconds of my life was just wasted on another fanboy.

Make that 10

And dont fukking call me homie.

Fanboy? Sorry, i just go by manga feats, and by manga feats Orochimaru can't react to Kamui nor even dodge it with his speed feats.
 

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Fanboy? Sorry, i just go by manga feats, and by manga feats Orochimaru can't react to Kamui nor even dodge it with his speed feats.
whoever talked about speed?

Think for 1 minute just think

Orochimaro has studied Ninjutsu all his life, do you really think he has not come across space time ninjutsu in his studies? and if so do you honestly believe he would let it pass without preparing at least a counteract for space time nin

if you want manga facts, I already gave it to you, no offense but anyone who disregardes oro's knowledge in ninjutsu must either be shallow or ignorant, I'm not saying you are but you simply decided oro cant overcome kamui on the basis of your own speculation, not by manga facts - manga facts wouldnt rule out oro being capable of anything!

heck he even found a way to control the reaper.
 

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whoever talked about speed?

Think for 1 minute just think

Orochimaro has studied Ninjutsu all his life, do you really think he has not come across space time ninjutsu in his studies? and if so do you honestly believe he would let it pass without preparing at least a counteract for space time nin

if you want manga facts, I already gave it to you, no offense but anyone who disregardes oro's knowledge in ninjutsu must either be shallow or ignorant, I'm not saying you are but you simply decided oro cant overcome kamui on the basis of your own speculation, not by manga facts - manga facts wouldnt rule out oro being capable of anything!

heck he even found a way to control the reaper.

Nah speculation at best.
 

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Looks at avatar =>> sees obito, looks at watch, 5 seconds of my life was just wasted on another fanboy.

Make that 10

And dont fukking call me homie.

Whatever floats your boat, Orochimaru has zero counter to Kamui, be it Obito's or Kakashi's version. Lol
Keep deluding yourself if you wish.
 
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