Could Minato have beaten Orochimaru?

[LustyLover]

Orochimaru wouldn't attack Konoha while Minato reigned cause he was shook.

lmfao

 

[BLAZE]

Ay pretty much confirms that Orochimaru killed both Kage.

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The sand used Akatsuki in form of Orochimaru
Though its not clear he'd already deserted Akatsuki by then or not
And both previous kazekage and hokage perished as the result


Way blow things out of context huh.It doesn't remotely suggest he killed rasa alone since Raikage is talking about the attack as a whole and both of them getting killed becoz of the assault

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

You don't understand. First of all, KCM Minato existed only as Oro's summon. Alive Minato could never utilize KCM because he died shortly after sealing Kyuubi.

But that's not the point. We only got to see Minato in action after the power scaling thing. Characters got huge increase in power, especially during the time skip and this trend continued till the end of the manga. Things that were considered strong in P1 were trash later on. Or used by some noname fodders. Just look at Hiruzen in P1 and Edo Hiruzen. It's like two different worlds.

That's why we cannot really determine how strong Minato would've been if he was introduced in P1 as a full-time character. But definitely end-of-manga Minato > P1 Orochimaru.

Again not talking at all about Edo Minato or KCM Minato. Minato had perfect SM when he was alive, its not something he gained after being summoned as an Edo by Oro. Anyway its been hinted in the manga many times that Minato was stronger than Oro.

 

[BLAZE]

Again not talking at all about Edo Minato or KCM Minato. Minato had perfect SM when he was alive, its not something he gained after being summoned as an Edo by Oro. Anyway its been hinted in the manga many times that Minato was stronger than Oro.

wait what.It wasn't said it was perfect

 

[blazekev90]

He didn't have strength left becoz of old age and fighting both first and second hokage along with orochimaru [

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Maybe becoz his prime purpose was to save konoha which he did while oro's prime purpose was destroy it but he ran away[

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Full kyuubi equals old sandaime
nice logic

Nice fiction
no after the body was found Baki made assumption that orochimaru was behind all this [

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the author uses the word assasination is not remotely implying that orochimaru gets credit of single handedly killing him

You're typing paragraphs with no substance :lol

The Kunai. Minato tossed it before he teleported
yes tossed since you can see its in his hand at same height as raikage's leg in first panel and above his shoulder in final panel :lol

Lol your excuses as to why/how Orochimaru defeated the Hokage irrelevant. The point of the matter is he defeated one the strongest characters portrayed at that time. You mentioning suicidal techniques hold no purpose, and both I'm not comparing the kyuubi to Hiruzen, it's a last resort technique. Therefore, Hiruzen had no other options in defeating Orochimaru.

Orochimaru involvement was implied no matter how you want to perceive text. That's fact.

A "flick of the wrist" is equivalent to hand speed now? Lol. Extending ones arm to strike down an opponent requires the same muscle/reflexes/speed as moving one wrist? lol interesting :eww:

 

[Wave.]

Blazekev, I like you man but you have to cut your bs on these type of things.

 

[BLAZE]

Lol your excuses as to why/how Orochimaru defeated the Hokage irrelevant. The point of the matter is he defeated one the strongest characters portrayed at that time. You mentioning suicidal techniques hold no purpose, and both I'm not comparing the kyuubi to Hiruzen, it's a last resort technique. Therefore, Hiruzen had no other options in defeating Orochimaru.

And the canon fact is he was already manhandled by 3T Itachi and also canon that he with prep was only able to pull win against sandaime after the latter used sucidal tech

70 y.o who was running out of chakra and had fought both first and second hokage and orochimaru dying by using a sucidal jutsu doesn't prove orochimaru is himself above minato's level when Minato is stronger than old hiruzen who himself is not reacting to him

Orochimaru involvement was implied no matter how you want to perceive text. That's fact.

becoz sound 4 defeated 2 jounins each of the member gets feat of defeating both of them

damn :lol

A "flick of the wrist" is equivalent to hand speed now? Lol. Extending ones arm to strike down an opponent requires the same muscle/reflexes/speed as moving one wrist? lol interesting :eww:

No becoz orochimaru is nowhere near Ei speed
reacting and being able to escape him while throwing a kunai above when he was right in front of minato is superior to any hand speed feat orochimaru has

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

wait what.It wasn't said it was perfect

His SM pattern is same as Naruto's which Fuaksaku had confirmed as perfect SM pattern.

 

[BLAZE]

His SM pattern is same as Naruto's which Fuaksaku had confirmed as perfect SM pattern.

eh he stated he is not good with SM since it takes him too long tobuild chakra for it and he can't maintain it for long [

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[~Ethereal~]

If Minato has a phobia for snakes, then he loses.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

eh he stated he is not good with SM since it takes him too long tobuild chakra for it and he can't maintain it for long [

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Yep he did but his SM is still perfect, he's perfectly able to balance the NE with his own chakra and that's what perfect SM means. And without Kyubi being sealed inside him he could enter fusion SM with Maa and Paa allowing him a constant supply of NE to maintain his SM for significantly longer duration like Jiraiya.

 

[BLAZE]

Yep he did but his SM is still perfect, he's perfectly able to balance the NE with his own chakra and that's what perfect SM means. And without Kyubi being sealed inside him he could enter fusion SM with Maa and Paa allowing him a constant supply of NE to maintain his SM for significantly longer duration like Jiraiya.

yeah don't see why he can't do that

 

[TheEvilOne]

If Minato has a phobia for snakes, then he loses.

And if he happens to have a snake fetish.. Just imagine the possibilities :snick:

 

[blazekev90]

And the canon fact is he was already manhandled by 3T Itachi and also canon that he with prep was only able to pull win against sandaime after the latter used sucidal tech

70 y.o who was running out of chakra and had fought both first and second hokage and orochimaru dying by using a sucidal jutsu doesn't prove orochimaru is himself above minato's level when Minato is stronger than old hiruzen who himself is not reacting to him


becoz sound 4 defeated 2 jounins each of the member gets feat of defeating both of them

damn :lol


No becoz orochimaru is nowhere near Ei speed
reacting and being able to escape him while throwing a kunai above when he was right in front of minato is superior to any hand speed feat orochimaru has

Minato only has credit for defeating a 14 y.o Obito using a chain w/ a single sharingan. Be humble. Sit down. lol

You downplay his W's as much as you please. They're still greater than that of Minato's

Orochimaru doesn't been to be near Ay's speed. Is Bee? No. It's about being strategic and being on the defense.

Wrist toss=/hand speed. If it was Obito wouldn't have been able to counter him mid-swing.

 

[blazekev90]

Blazekev, I like you man but you have to cut your bs on these type of things.

Sorry, can't do that bro

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

yeah don't see why he can't do that

Exactly. He should be able to enter fusion SM as well.

 

[BLAZE]

Minato only has credit for defeating a 14 y.o Obito using a chain w/ a single sharingan. Stop it lol

No with Mangekyo sharingan with one of the most haxxed abilty kamui and Kyuubi as summon :lol

You downplay his W's as much as you please. They're still greater than that of Minato's

I didn't downplay anything and no

Orochimaru doesn't been to be near Ay's speed. Is Bee? No. It's about being strategic and being on the defense.

lel Ei didn't even try to dodge bee[

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Wrist toss=/hand speed. If it was Obito wouldn't have been able to counter him mid-swing.

yes it is
and bold what

 

[blazekev90]

No with Mangekyo sharingan with one of the most haxxed abilty kamui and Kyuubi as summon :lol


I didn't downplay anything and no


lel Ei didn't even try to dodge bee[

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yes it is
and bold what

-An inexperienced child none the less. Lol
-What does Ay not dodging bee have to do with this? Im talking Bee anticipating Minato's attacks.
-It's not.

How about we discuss the encounter itself. In what scenario would Orochimaru fail to counters Minato's approach? This talk of character portrayal and history is getting old.

 

[BLAZE]

-An inexperienced child none the less. Lol

Trained by madara acted as teacher of Nagato tell me more :lol

-What does Ay not dodging bee have to do with this? Im talking Bee anticipating Minato's attacks.

So.Bee anticipated where Minato would appear after seeing him engaging with Ei and Minato
On other hand Orochimaru has done what.Oh wait struggled against 70 y.o hokage with his edo's huh

-It's not.

how about you keep telling that to yourself

How about we discuss the encounter itself. In what scenario would Orochimaru fail to counters Minato's approach? This talk of character portrayal and history is getting old.

Did i even talk about potrayal nope.i just replied to this crap

Even than, his hand speed is just above average

i could care less about potrayal of either char since i don't like them.Minato is bland char while oro fell from tier Main villian to tier uchiha wanker over part 2

 

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