Sasuke was not badly injured when he fought Killer. He may not have fully recovered, but that doesn't equal to being badly injure. Killer did state that Sasuke was was the strongest guy he has fought, but he wasn't talking about his swordsmanship. He was clearly talking about his MS powers.
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- Yes, because he was badly injured. You cannot see the top panel portion where he couldn't create a single opening? Sasuke never recovered from his grave injuries from Itachi. Jugo confirms it. That's the manga's statement. The second time was due to Raiton deflection and lack of knowledge.
I mean, the guy could only move 6 times faster that Bee under V1 cloak after getting healed:
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But who cares? If only reading skills were not sparse on these forums.
- "I can see why you can move so well." Yeah, he talked about the movement as well. Shame, your childishly selective reading is preventing you from sifting that one out.
- Yes, because he was badly injured. You cannot see the top panel portion where he couldn't create a single opening? Sasuke never recovered from his grave injuries from Itachi. Jugo confirms it. That's the manga's statement. The second time was due to Raiton deflection and lack of knowledge.
I mean, the guy could only move 6 times faster that Bee under V1 cloak after getting healed:
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But who cares? If only reading skills were not sparse on these forums.
- "I can see why you can move so well." Yeah, he talked about the movement as well. Shame, your childishly selective reading is preventing you from sifting that one out.
Quite your BS and your childishness. You are the one who has selective reading. The manga never stated or showed us Sasuke was still badly injured. There is a difference between not fully recovered and badly injured. Karin even heals Sasuke during the battle
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so Sasuke was never badly injured when he fought Killer Bee.
Like I said Killer Bee bested Sasuke twice in swordsmanship -
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- to create an attack thought couldn't be block. He did that because he couldn't defeat Killer Bee in swordsmanship.
When Sasuke evaded Killer Bee attack that was becausebecause Killer Bee acted Sasuke with a head on attack that easy to read and Sasuke used the Sharingan to predict his movement, not swordmanship. The manga even focus on the sharigan before Sasuke evades the attack
He deflected his Raiton with Raiton. Sasuke didn't let his guard down. Bee still couldn't create a room even when the guy was badly injured. But, nah.
Orochimaru praises the guy, Mifune does it, Bee accepts that Sasuke is the strongest guy he fought. Madara praises his Kenjutsu movement. All wrong, but your imbecilic claims hold water.
Nah, it goes to show that even a half-backed and pettily constructed reply can get praises from the right lobby. I hope to god you don't think this is even a half-decent reply.
Suigetsu is one of the best swordsmen in the manga. As Kisame stated. But nah.
Sasuke didn't let his guard down? So how exactly did Sasuke get stabbed? Are you saying Bee destroyed his guard 7 times over? Lmao. That's terrible.
All that praise and lose control of your sword left and right. All mifune said was "not bad". But I guess that's something to write home about right? Bee was talking overall not in the sword. He already put him in his place twice requiring multiple fatal injuries to be healed.
I'm not saying Sasuke is bad, shelk so stop being tight. Accept he has poor weapon control. He's still a demigod and on par with Naruto. You catch more feelings than meek when it comes to your ***-ske or however you say his name.
Hold this L for saying suigetsu is one of the best as well. And for saying ***-ske.
Quite your BS and your childishness. You are the one who has selective reading. The manga never stated or showed us Sasuke was still badly injured. There is a difference between not fully recovered and badly injured. Karin even heals Sasuke during the battle
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so Sasuke was never badly injured when he fought Killer Bee.
Like I said Killer Bee bested Sasuke twice in swordsmanship -
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- Sasuke was the one who first used raiton -
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- to create an attack thought couldn't be block. He did that because he couldn't defeat Killer Bee in swordsmanship.
When Sasuke evaded Killer Bee attack that was because Killer Bee acted Sasuke with a head on attack that easy to read and Sasuke used the Sharingan to predict his movement, not swordmanship. The manga even focus on the sharigan before Sasuke evades the attack
You sound really upset. Don't really give a slightest amount of damn what your stone-age wankery compels you to read and deliberately miss. Sasuke was badly injured and the wounds Itachi gave him never healed - Jugo confirms it and Sasuke accepts it that it was the sole reason why his performance was not up to the mark:
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Heck, his injuries were so severe then, that Zetsu states that he was fading fast:
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Even after patching him up, Sasuke was still badly wounded, confirmed by Obito - the same wounds that never healed:
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So, who should I take? The author or a special snow-flake such as yourself who cannot simply read? Yeah, I think I'll take my chances with the author.
Really, man? Unless your vision is lopsided enough not to actually perceive numbers correctly, I gave you a scan where Sasuke's reflexes were 6 times faster than Bee in his Version 1 cloak. Here it is again for you:
You can't tell the difference between 411 and 412? Interesting. I think you should sort this reading trouble out first and then show your kiddy outbursts. Yeah, he used the Raiton first and Bee deflected it with his own Raiton later:
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He even tried to mount pressure on his strike to keep Bee's sword down, because his sword is in his left hand in the 20 scan and in the right in the 21 scan. Bee's sword is in his left hand and right under Sasuke's sword. That same hand has moved sharply backwards to create the opening. Meaning, Sasuke's sword was literally deflected from its course via Raiton, given that everyone is surprised.
It's elementary. The healing happened after this stab and Sasuke's movement drastically improved. Given how he jumped up literally on V1 Bee's back and rolled several times in air, when Bee hasn't even moved from point A to B in mid-air. But nah, he wasn't badly injured and that possibly couldn't have affected his reflexes. That never happens in normal circumstances. Absurd.
No, that scan was shown you to showcase his reflexes and speed. Bee accepts it. Your self-serving statements aren't doing you much good.
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If you can read, then I am not the only one who explained it. Unless of course, I am mistaken.
He blocked the quickest draw (that belongs to Mifune and Mifune only) in the manga. Bee couldn't catch him with his cloak on; something only his brother ever accomplished who synapses fire as fast as flashes of light. That is a testament to Ae's reflexes:
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Sasuke was moving much faster when healed. Already explained above why the stabs happened. Don't try too hard. Now you are beginning to sound really absurd, because moving several times faster than V1 Bee when only V1 Ae could ever accomplish is a big deal. Blocking the "quickest Draw" movement in the entire manga is also a big deal. You don't agree? O.K.
Sorry, when the manga has shown otherwise, I won't accept it. I have no reason to. Nobody is tight, you just sound ridiculous. What? I think the time has come when you finally read the manga:
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The guy is a prodigy with the sword. Whoops, just another one on the large list you got wrong.
it's become too much of a pattern to see Sasuke's sword in somebody else's hand for it to be mere coincidence imho. Under no circumstances whatsoever does a master swordsman finds his own weapon being in somebody else's hands as many times as Sasuke has over the course of his life.
instead of talking out of your ass, why dont mention those times he lost his weapon, lemme shit all over it. seems some of you lack some comprehension on what you read.
hes right. suigetsu is indeed among the best. your staement of him being shit is extremely laughable that i gave up alongside your earlier comment of me losing credibility because i mentioned mifune. you should reread the feats of other swords men instead of jocking on bee alone.
instead of talking out of your ass, why dont mention those times he lost his weapon, lemme shit all over it. seems some of you lack some comprehension on what you read.
hes right. suigetsu is indeed among the best. your staement of him being shit is extremely laughable that i gave up alongside your earlier comment of me losing credibility because i mentioned mifune. you should reread the feats of other swords men instead of jocking on bee alone.
Outside of that He lacks the requirements to use his own weapon. Dude has to juice his arm up just to swing it. Not only that, he can't carry it long distances. Zabuza was swinging it single handedly with ease and proficiency. His bro was using all 7 swords of the mist to their upper limit. When did I ever talk bad about mifune? He's awesome. Same with the salamander Hanzo.
Maybe if he had the mizukage's sword or increased strength and stamina increases he'd be better off.
You sound really upset. Don't really give a slightest amount of damn what your stone-age wankery compels you to read and deliberately miss. Sasuke was badly injured and the wounds Itachi gave him never healed - Jugo confirms it and Sasuke accepts it that it was the sole reason why his performance was not up to the mark:
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Heck, his injuries were so severe then, that Zetsu states that he was fading fast:
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Even after patching him up, Sasuke was still badly wounded, confirmed by Obito - the same wounds that never healed:
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So, who should I take? The author or a special snow-flake such as yourself who cannot simply read? Yeah, I think I'll take my chances with the author.
Really, man? Unless your vision is lopsided enough not to actually perceive numbers correctly, I gave you a scan where Sasuke's reflexes were 6 times faster than Bee in his Version 1 cloak. Here it is again for you:
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The stabs you show me happen a chapter before:
You can't tell the difference between 411 and 412? Interesting. I think you should sort this reading trouble out first and then show your kiddy outbursts. Yeah, he used the Raiton first and Bee deflected it with his own Raiton later:
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He even tried to mount pressure on his strike to keep Bee's sword down, because his sword is in his left hand in the 20 scan and in the right in the 21 scan. Bee's sword is in his left hand and right under Sasuke's sword. That same hand has moved sharply backwards to create the opening. Meaning, Sasuke's sword was literally deflected from its course via Raiton, given that everyone is surprised.
It's elementary. The healing happened after this stab and Sasuke's movement drastically improved. Given how he jumped up literally on V1 Bee's back and rolled several times in air, when Bee hasn't even moved from point A to B in mid-air. But nah, he wasn't badly injured and that possibly couldn't have affected his reflexes. That never happens in normal circumstances. Absurd.
No, that scan was shown you to showcase his reflexes and speed. Bee accepts it. Your self-serving statements aren't doing you much good.
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If you can read, then I am not the only one who explained it. Unless of course, I am mistaken.
He blocked the quickest draw (that belongs to Mifune and Mifune only) in the manga. Bee couldn't catch him with his cloak on; something only his brother ever accomplished who synapses fire as fast as flashes of light. That is a testament to Ae's reflexes:
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Sasuke was moving much faster when healed. Already explained above why the stabs happened. Don't try too hard. Now you are beginning to sound really absurd, because moving several times faster than V1 Bee when only V1 Ae could ever accomplish is a big deal. Blocking the "quickest Draw" movement in the entire manga is also a big deal. You don't agree? O.K.
Sorry, when the manga has shown otherwise, I won't accept it. I have no reason to. Nobody is tight, you just sound ridiculous. What? I think the time has come when you finally read the manga:
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The guy is a prodigy with the sword. Whoops, just another one on the large list you got wrong.
You are the one that's upset because you can't accept the facts I have provided.
The manga stated Sasuke wasn't fully recovered. The manga doesn't say Sasuke was still badly injured. You are making that up. Juugo never stated that Sasuke was still badly injured during his battle -
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This is Sasuke when he is badly injured -
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- he can barely move.
This is Sasuke prior to fighting Killer Bee -
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- see the difference. Sasuke was healed during the battle.
Here it is again: Killer Bee bested Sasuke twice in swordsmanship. The first time Sasuke wasn't injured and the second time he was. -
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- Sasuke used raiton -
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- to try to create an opening by attacking with an attack he thought couldn't be block. He did that because he couldn't defeat Killer Bee in swordsmanship. He failed.
The manga doesn't show Sasuke's reflexes being 6 times faster than Bee in his Version 1 cloak. You made that number up. The manga shows Sasuke using he sharingan to evade Killer Bee's attack -
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. The manga proved in part 1 that the sharingan can allow the user to evade an attack from a faster opponent. Just like his battle with Naruto at the VOTE 1. Besides, this has nothing to do with swordsmanship.
You sound really upset. Don't really give a slightest amount of damn what your stone-age wankery compels you to read and deliberately miss. Sasuke was badly injured and the wounds Itachi gave him never healed - Jugo confirms it and Sasuke accepts it that it was the sole reason why his performance was not up to the mark:
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Heck, his injuries were so severe then, that Zetsu states that he was fading fast:
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Even after patching him up, Sasuke was still badly wounded, confirmed by Obito - the same wounds that never healed:
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So, who should I take? The author or a special snow-flake such as yourself who cannot simply read? Yeah, I think I'll take my chances with the author.
Really, man? Unless your vision is lopsided enough not to actually perceive numbers correctly, I gave you a scan where Sasuke's reflexes were 6 times faster than Bee in his Version 1 cloak. Here it is again for you:
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The stabs you show me happen a chapter before:
You can't tell the difference between 411 and 412? Interesting. I think you should sort this reading trouble out first and then show your kiddy outbursts. Yeah, he used the Raiton first and Bee deflected it with his own Raiton later:
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He even tried to mount pressure on his strike to keep Bee's sword down, because his sword is in his left hand in the 20 scan and in the right in the 21 scan. Bee's sword is in his left hand and right under Sasuke's sword. That same hand has moved sharply backwards to create the opening. Meaning, Sasuke's sword was literally deflected from its course via Raiton, given that everyone is surprised.
It's elementary. The healing happened after this stab and Sasuke's movement drastically improved. Given how he jumped up literally on V1 Bee's back and rolled several times in air, when Bee hasn't even moved from point A to B in mid-air. But nah, he wasn't badly injured and that possibly couldn't have affected his reflexes. That never happens in normal circumstances. Absurd.
No, that scan was shown you to showcase his reflexes and speed. Bee accepts it. Your self-serving statements aren't doing you much good.
@Nips
If you can read, then I am not the only one who explained it. Unless of course, I am mistaken.
He blocked the quickest draw (that belongs to Mifune and Mifune only) in the manga. Bee couldn't catch him with his cloak on; something only his brother ever accomplished who synapses fire as fast as flashes of light. That is a testament to Ae's reflexes:
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Sasuke was moving much faster when healed. Already explained above why the stabs happened. Don't try too hard. Now you are beginning to sound really absurd, because moving several times faster than V1 Bee when only V1 Ae could ever accomplish is a big deal. Blocking the "quickest Draw" movement in the entire manga is also a big deal. You don't agree? O.K.
Sorry, when the manga has shown otherwise, I won't accept it. I have no reason to. Nobody is tight, you just sound ridiculous. What? I think the time has come when you finally read the manga:
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The guy is a prodigy with the sword. Whoops, just another one on the large list you got wrong.
For someone who gets on here to vent you often do the opposite. But I guess Sasuke lights that flexible fire in you.
Suigetsu is going to be shit until he gets another sword or get better using the executioner. A prodigy doesn't mean you're good enough to be brought up in a discussion about masters. You don't see break out rookies getting compared to jerry rice.
You're assuming Sasuke's speed is anything. As if a 100% Ms Sasuke wouldn't have gotten destroyed in sword play. Bee reacted to Minato that speed your expecting Sasuke to is movement. Kb's striking speed is faster he made that evident.
instead of talking out of your ass, why dont mention those times he lost his weapon, lemme shit all over it. seems some of you lack some comprehension on what you read.
What else does it say? The wounds Itachi gave him were life threatening. After Obito patched him up they were still bad. Jugo says they never healed ... but they were not bad? Are you trying to teach me semantics? I told you; I don't give a damn about your pitiful and absurd spins on those statements when it's a 5th grade English tackling problem here.
Yet, he's still badly injured. Sasuke then had just recovered from a near-death state. With the White snake powers gone, so did his speedy recovery. Unless, you expect him to heal overnight, then I will stick with the author's statements.
Already proved this one. Not interested, so, I'll pass looking at the same nonsense again.
Moving 6 times whilst the other hasn't moved means the reflex action rate is 6 times faster. It's elementary logic. So, that means it isn't his speed feat because Sharingan is involved? Are you using part one feats when Sasuke's training from then and Shippuden alone is vastly different? King of Pop already posted this:
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Which is why Sasuke was beaten.
Sasuke never would have moved that fast had his speed not been a factor. All you have done is blither nonsensically, as Sasuke's speed is a real factor whether you accept it or not. Stating that this wasn't speed and just Sharingan is stupidity.
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Not interested. All of your replies are hilarious when you have been repeatedly given clear cut scans. You can actually tell (from an asynchronous mode of communication) how I look behind the computer screen? Magic.
What else does it say? The wounds Itachi gave him were life threatening. After Obito patched him up they were still bad. Jugo says they never healed ... but they were not bad? Are you trying to teach me semantics? I told you; I don't give a damn about your pitiful and absurd spins on those statements when it's a 5th grade English tackling problem here.
Yet, he's still badly injured. Sasuke then had just recovered from a near-death state. With the White snake powers gone, so did his speedy recovery. Unless, you expect him to heal overnight, then I will stick with the author's statements.
Already proved this one. Not interested, so, I'll pass looking at the same nonsense again.
Moving 6 times whilst the other hasn't moved means the reflex action rate is 6 times faster. It's elementary logic. So, that means it isn't his speed feat because Sharingan is involved? Are you using part one feats when Sasuke's training from then and Shippuden alone is vastly different? King of Pop already posted this:
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- and then we have Lee's statement that unless "the body isn't fast enough, the Sharingan is useless". Which is why Sasuke was beaten.
Sasuke never would have moved that fast had his speed not been a factor. All you have done is blither nonsensically, as Sasuke's speed is a real factor whether you accept it or not. Stating that this wasn't speed and just Sharingan is stupidity.
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Not interested. All of your replies are hilarious when you have been repeatedly given clear cut scans. You can actually tell (from an asynchronous mode of communication) how I look behind the computer screen? Magic.
No one starts arguing in multiple threads to vent bro.Sasuke just rustles you when he's the topic of conversation. I don't expect much from someone calling him sexsuke.
Sasuke lost his sword off a parry. He needs work. Period.
And you talk about scans when suigetsu himself talks about is ineptitude using the executioner.
No one starts arguing in multiple threads to vent bro.Sasuke just rustles you when he's the topic of conversation. I don't expect much from someone calling him sexsuke.
Sasuke lost his sword off a parry. He needs work. Period.
And you talk about scans when suigetsu himself talks about is ineptitude using the executioner.
danzo paralysed him, he coudnt move, madara held him up with limbo, he couldnt move as well. funny you had to dip into examples where the opponent needed to restrict his movement for them to take it away, like i said comprehension is key.
and yes bring up an example were the oppobnent uses his lack of knowledge to manipulate the sword away from his hand, like sasuke is magically supposed that the guy can do that. and even then thats the only thing even remotely close to legit that you posted
danzo paralysed him, he coudnt move, madara held him up with limbo, he couldnt move as well. funny you had to dip into examples where the opponent needed to restrict his movement for them to take it away, like i said comprehension is key.
and yes bring up an example were the oppobnent uses his lack of knowledge to manipulate the sword away from his hand, like sasuke is magically supposed that the guy can do that. and even then thats the only thing even remotely close to legit that you posted
I call it like I see it too. If Naruto was better then I'd admit, as I have throughout most of the war arc and the finale of VotE 2.
If it were just that moment of Sasuke losing his sword then I'd agree with you but right after that he showed much better swordsmanship skills then Naruto, which I'll say again isn't at all an insult against Naruto. It's like saying Tiger Woods would destroy Michael Jordan in a game of golf, thats not insulting to Michael because that's not what he does. Same goes here, Sasuke was better with the sword than Naruto during the fight...by saying Naruto was better you guys are taking a cool thing Naruto did and making more than what it was..it was cool but it wasn't THAT great.
Suuuuuure. You're doing it again btw. It's just about this instance. Stop bringing up the "b-but Sasuke uses it all the time, plz don't take this away from us." There's fluking your way through with beginners luck but Naruto knew what he was doing to the point that he lasted longer than Sasuke with the sword.
According to your logic. If Michael Jordan DID indeed destroy Tiger Woods in a game of gold, you'd brush it aside because you haven't seen him play golf before.
By saying Sasuke did better by nearly instantly losing his frickin' sword you are in fact the one undermining Naruto's feat. It is what it is because it was made that way to look cool. Both characters were covering each other. In this particular instance, Naruto covered and compensated for Sasuke so this is all rather pointless.
When using it, you combine your overall arsenal to maximise potential. In this case, Sasuke hit with the sword from above and let go so it would bounce to an incoming Naruto, so he could strike from below.
Naruto has no kenjutsu skills, he was just using a tool to take advantage of an opening. Otherwise though, he wouldn't know how to handle himself in a sword fight. Waving the sword around and going cutty stabby doesn't constitute swordplay. To anyone whose trained in it, they know the difference.
To say Naruto handles the sword better shows a distinct lack of knowledge.
When using it, you combine your overall arsenal to maximise potential. In this case, Sasuke hit with the sword from above and let go so it would bounce to an incoming Naruto, so he could strike from below.
Naruto has no kenjutsu skills, he was just using a tool to take advantage of an opening. Otherwise though, he wouldn't know how to handle himself in a sword fight. Waving the sword around and going cutty stabby doesn't constitute swordplay. To anyone whose trained in it, they know the difference.
To say Naruto handles the sword better shows a distinct lack of knowledge.
