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[Pukkake Pokayo]

Feel a type of way ? You could have just quoted me lol

@BOLD

You're just reaching with that one. No one in this thread as ever claimed that, and I sure as hell haven't.

Naruto didn't display better swordsmanship skills than Sasuke, and by saying so you're overrating what Naruto did. It's as a simple as that.

You're fighting others (what you think is bias because of your own bias) with your bias. Did quote you but must've refreshed or something. Can't remember, went to make food lel

@bold. "Naruto didn't do better cuz it isn't his style" isn't an excuse. Naruto still performed better in this instance and didn't lose his sword. Unless losing your sword is counted as better swordsmanship now...I'm not over rating anything. I'm saying it as it is.

 

[KesOnFire]

so you can ask whether am dumb but get hurt when i throw some shades back? lol if you cant take it, then dont dish it.

ive seen it, it was a nice moment no disputing. better than sasuke? nope

Yea I simply asked you and you got you're period lol

 

[To Whatever]

Imo you can be as flashy a swordsman you want to be but the moment your supposed to be in your prime and you get parried so badly that your sword goes flying. You get no props from me. Especially if the person who parried you is supposedly on par with your abilities.

Zoro, Kenshin, & king Bradley would laugh at his discipline.

 

[TrollKing]

Imo you can be as flashy a swordsman you want to be but the moment your supposed to be in your prime and you get parried so badly that your sword goes flying. You get no props from me. Especially if the person who parried you is supposedly on par with your abilities.

Zoro, Kenshin, & king Bradley would laugh at his discipline.

It's coordinate attack, team work = sasuke threw it to naruto since naruto was actually much closer to momo

 

[To Whatever]

It's coordinate attack, team work = sasuke threw it to naruto since naruto was actually much closer to momo

Naruto was behind Sasuke by a fair amount. And that still doesn't provide any remedy to his lack of discipline. In the gaiden he allowed his sword to fly out of his hand. He needs work.

But don't get me wrong, you hardly need swordsmanship when you can slash around with amaterasu coated blades or summon giant purple entities that slash mountains. That and having pre cog.

 

[King Of Pop]

=Nips;19539353]Bee literally pulled out a pencil in pad after disarming suigetsu and blocking Sasuke. How is it a disarm when the wielder no longer claims possession.

what bee did afterwards is irrelevant. he was weilding a sword, he faced another sword user in combat who ended up taking the sword away from him=he was disarmed period. whether he wanted it back or not is completely irrelevant to the point.

Sasuke not using sharingan and KB didn't use his sword style.

ok.

KB uses his swordplay and Sasuke ends up with extra holes to breathe through. Despite having the luxury of pre cog and amplifying your sword via Raton. Fyi suigetsu had to jump in.

not sure why you are telling me all this when i know bee beats sasuke in swordmanship. yes bee struck him, no denying that. but sasuke blocked all his previous attempts without leaving a single opening even though he had one blade to bees 7. bee got the opening he needed when he deflected the latter raitons sword with his own.
you want to talk about luxury? how about the fact that sasuke was fighting while injured as juugo pointed out afterwards, his injuries hadent healed while bee was fresh, yet sasuke still managed to hold up bees attempts initially. pls lets not delve into that. at the end of the day bee was fighting sn injured opponent. dont wanna use it as an excuse but i would bring it up since you are biasedly using sasuke having some luxury

Your point lost credibility when you mentioned KB who swordsmanship is one of the best and most disciplined in the series other than mifune. Keep in mind that Sasuke is supposed to be in his prime and still lacks control over his own weapon. Bee controls 7+ swords in various parts of his body and you don't see His weapons being parried out of his hands.

you cannot be serious. mifune is the samurai leader, you know the same group of pple who specialize in the art of swordmanship itself. the guy fights solely with that. you not wanting to acknowledge him means absolutely nothing to me when manga puts him on a high pedestral so lets leave it at that.

sasuke doesnt lack control over his weapon. what happened simply happens in combat like ive pointed out several times. idgaf how skilled bee is, doesnt take anything away from sasuke. bees exploits are bees feats, others have their own

And yes, it's easier to be a swordsman when you have free muscle movement alerts and a grasp on kenjutsu. Not to mention the recent rikudo chakra. You could be a fool with Sasuke's crutches and excel in swordsmanship.

is that why sharingan reading was noted to be useless if the user cannot keep up as lee showcased against sasuke? that shits all over your whole point. if the user itself cant move quick enought then their precog is meaningless. sasuke is good because he himself can move quikcly and take advantage of his reading otherwise precog amounts to nothing so drop that so you fail. sharingan is just a tool, if the user is not skilled enough then its completely meaningless.

 

[To Whatever]

what bee did afterwards is irrelevant. he was weilding a sword, he faced another sword user in combat who ended up taking the sword away from him=he was disarmed period. whether he wanted it back or not is completely irrelevant to the point.


ok.


not sure why you are telling me all this when i know bee beats sasuke in swordmanship. yes bee struck him, no denying that. but sasuke blocked all his previous attempts without leaving a single opening even though he had one blade to bees 7. bee got the opening he needed when he deflected the latter raitons sword with his own.
you want to talk about luxury? how about the fact that sasuke was fighting while injured as juugo pointed out afterwards, his injuries hadent healed while bee was fresh, yet sasuke still managed to hold up bees attempts initially. pls lets not delve into that. at the end of the day bee was fighting sn injured opponent. dont wanna use it as an excuse but i would bring it up since you are biasedly using sasuke having some luxury


you cannot be serious. mifune is the samurai leader, you know the same group of pple who specialize in the art of swordmanship itself. the guy fights solely with that. you not wanting to acknowledge him means absolutely nothing to me when manga puts him on a high pedestral so lets leave it at that.

sasuke doesnt lack control over his weapon. what happened simply happens in combat like ive pointed out several times. idgaf how skilled bee is, doesnt take anything away from sasuke. bees exploits are bees feats, others have their own


is that why sharingan reading was noted to be useless if the user cannot keep up as lee showcased against sasuke? that shits all over your whole point. if the user itself cant move quick enought then their precog is meaningless. sasuke is good because he himself can move quikcly and take advantage of his reading otherwise precog amounts to nothing so drop that so you fail. sharingan is just a tool, if the user is not skilled enough then its completely meaningless.

Sasuke disarming Bee..

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Luxury? Sasuke had 4 people including himself against one guy. 2 of which can heal hi one of the 2 that can heal happen to be a high tier sensor on top of that. Don't use that bs about him being injured or KB having more swords. Foh with those weak arguments.

Losing your weapon of choice from a single parry has never happened to high tiers in swordplay. Yet it happened to Sasuke when he's in his prime.

Getting your weapon thrown out your hand is a lack of control and discipline. That's common sense.

Also, all you have to do is train your body to keep up with the precog. You don't even need to be that good at the sword or even taijutsu for that matter. You can just copy it. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

The point is in that instance Sasuke proved he lacked weapon control and discipline despite having a decade or so worth of the sword. Naruto picked up the sword and used it better in that single instance.

 

[To Whatever]

Kinda done arguing this. It is what it is. Dude lost his weapon from a single parry. That's a fact at the end of the day.

 

[Lilvic92]

You're fighting others (what you think is bias because of your own bias) with your bias. Did quote you but must've refreshed or something. Can't remember, went to make food lel

@bold. "Naruto didn't do better cuz it isn't his style" isn't an excuse. Naruto still performed better in this instance and didn't lose his sword. Unless losing your sword is counted as better swordsmanship now...I'm not over rating anything. I'm saying it as it is.

Am I a Sasuke fan? Yes.

Am I saying this out of bias? No.

I call it like I see it too. If Naruto was better then I'd admit, as I have throughout most of the war arc and the finale of VotE 2.

If it were just that moment of Sasuke losing his sword then I'd agree with you but right after that he showed much better swordsmanship skills then Naruto, which I'll say again isn't at all an insult against Naruto. It's like saying Tiger Woods would destroy Michael Jordan in a game of golf, thats not insulting to Michael because that's not what he does. Same goes here, Sasuke was better with the sword than Naruto during the fight...by saying Naruto was better you guys are taking a cool thing Naruto did and making more than what it was..it was cool but it wasn't THAT great.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

I can see Sasuke fans getting really rustled.

Apparently they can't handle the fact that Naruto is much better at using swords. :bdpf:

 

[Im Still Robin]

You serious bro XD?

Sasuke is obviously better plus he has one arm .. even if Naruto is slightly good he gets no cool points at all even though Sasuke with one arm is a thousand times better than Naruto with two full arms -

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[King Of Pop]

=Nips;19539513]Sasuke disarming Bee..

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no, this is sasuke disarming him.

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your attempts to belittle it is pitiful. like i said what bee did afterwards is irrelevant, his sword was taken away, point blanc.

Luxury? Sasuke had 4 people including himself against one guy. 2 of which can heal hi one of the 2 that can heal happen to be a high tier sensor on top of that. Don't use that bs about him being injured or KB having more swords. Foh with those weak arguments.

i brought up that point because for you acting like bee had all the disadvantages or something just because sasuke has the sharingan even though the latter physically was not at his best. bringing up the rest of taka makes no sense as they did nothing in the kenjutsu battle which is what we were talking about. neither of them helped sasuke block all of bees previous attempts to hit him. they intervened when sasuke was struck.
of course i would bring up him being injured because its a fact, whether you acknowledge it or not is not my business. ironic you calling my arguments weak when you are the foolishly saying having a sharingan is tantamount to having good sword skills.

Losing your weapon of choice from a single parry has never happened to high tiers in swordplay. Yet it happened to Sasuke when he's in his prime.

already gave examples. them not being a single parry is irrelebvant as it happened non the less. suigetsu had his blade taken away from him by bees hands, is that a knock on suigetsu now? kisame with wealth of experience utilizing samehada, had it taken away from him by gai without a weapon, is that a knock on kisame now? no because these things happen. whats improtant is the skills these ninjas display overall.

Getting your weapon thrown out your hand is a lack of control and discipline. That's common sense.

i just like how sasukes blade is knocked off him, and then tards crawl out of their holes and spout nonsense like "he lacks discipline, he lacks this he lacks that" completely ignoring what transpired afterwards. pls dont be silly.

Also, all you have to do is train your body to keep up with the precog. You don't even need to be that good at the sword or even taijutsu for that matter. You can just copy it. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

what a joke. too bad gai, disagrees with that ridiculous line of thinking

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he says even with the sharingan, lotus cant be perfected in such a quick manner. the individual still has to make it happenso gtfo with your crappy logic. he gave props to the shinobi and not just chalking it up to sharingan unlike some. he is a taijutsu master so his words are extremely credible sasuke has shown he is skilled with the blade, sharingan doesnt wield it for him.

The point is in that instance Sasuke proved he lacked weapon control and discipline despite having a decade or so worth of the sword. Naruto picked up the sword and used it better in that single instance.

enough with the he lacked crap talk and all that. narutos 3 secs swinging doesnt put him anywere near sasuke overall. he did good buts let not fool ourself and go overboard.

 

[KesOnFire]

You serious bro XD?

Sasuke is obviously better plus he has one arm .. even if Naruto is slightly good he gets no cool points at all even though Sasuke with one arm is a thousand times better than Naruto with two full arms -

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How is he better? He lost his sword in less then a second

Sasuke is 1000times better? Kish>than youautoplay

 

[Im Still Robin]

How is he better? He lost his sword in less then a second

Sasuke is 1000times better? Kish>than youautoplay

Kishi > Me right?

Okay Sasuke is faster Kishi > You -

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Who cares if he lost it .. what you're missing other than the simple fact that he lost it -

- One arm
- Not the same balance with two arms like he use to have
- It was a parry
- It was either keep the sword and fly away with it and have Naruto catch him too (which you would of said Naruto saved Sasuke if he did that XD) or let the sword fly.

Also there's not really a con to losing his sword when he can instantly make it appear right back into his hand just as it's flying away.

So many irrelevant but simple things that happened other than the fact that he lost his sword. That doesn't mean Naruto was better or will ever be better. Not even at that moment because one little moment doesn't make up for ever other moment sasuke had.

Facts no bullcrap.

 

[To Whatever]

no, this is sasuke disarming him.

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your attempts to belittle it is pitiful. like i said what bee did afterwards is irrelevant, his sword was taken away, point blanc.


i brought up that point because for you acting like bee had all the disadvantages or something just because sasuke has the sharingan even though the latter physically was not at his best. bringing up the rest of taka makes no sense as they did nothing in the kenjutsu battle which is what we were talking about. neither of them helped sasuke block all of bees previous attempts to hit him. they intervened when sasuke was struck.
of course i would bring up him being injured because its a fact, whether you acknowledge it or not is not my business. ironic you calling my arguments weak when you are the foolishly saying having a sharingan is tantamount to having good sword skills.


already gave examples. them not being a single parry is irrelebvant as it happened non the less. suigetsu had his blade taken away from him by bees hands, is that a knock on suigetsu now? kisame with wealth of experience utilizing samehada, had it taken away from him by gai without a weapon, is that a knock on kisame now? no because these things happen. whats improtant is the skills these ninjas display overall.


i just like how sasukes blade is knocked off him, and then tards crawl out of their holes and spout nonsense like "he lacks discipline, he lacks this he lacks that" completely ignoring what transpired afterwards. pls dont be silly.


what a joke. too bad gai, disagrees with that ridiculous line of thinking

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he says even with the sharingan, lotus cant be perfected in such a quick manner. the individual still has to make it happenso gtfo with your crappy logic. he gave props to the shinobi and not just chalking it up to sharingan unlike some. he is a taijutsu master so his words are extremely credible sasuke has shown he is skilled with the blade, sharingan doesnt wield it for him.


enough with the he lacked crap talk and all that. narutos 3 secs swinging doesnt put him anywere near sasuke overall. he did good buts let not fool ourself and go overboard.

Not going to bother with your absurdly long reply.

1. In the page you showed, look at bee. he recognized a rhyme dropped the sword and wrote. If you're that type of person that understand it then I'll let you have it.

If you drop a sword willingly it isn't a disarm. If i kick you to drop something and you get a text and drop it to answer your phone is that a disarm? I wasn't the deciding factor in the item being dropped. You did it willingly.

2. Yes it's a knock on their swordsmanshil. Suigetsu is a shit sword user to begin with. So is kisame but he's good enough with samehada's abilities. But keep comparing Sasuke to those 2 to make yourself feel better.

Last reply tho this site is ass on mobile.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Sasuke needs another hand. He looks awful fighting with one.

 

[WalksInShadows]

it's become too much of a pattern to see Sasuke's sword in somebody else's hand for it to be mere coincidence imho. Under no circumstances whatsoever does a master swordsman finds his own weapon being in somebody else's hands as many times as Sasuke has over the course of his life.

 

[Warlocks]

You serious bro XD?

Sasuke is obviously better plus he has one arm .. even if Naruto is slightly good he gets no cool points at all even though Sasuke with one arm is a thousand times better than Naruto with two full arms -

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thats why he losses the sword

 

[shelke]

It happened to Sasuke twice and when did Sasuke disarm bee? If you're talking about when he was playing with the executioner that not a disarm.

You can't brush it off as a "it happens" Sasuke is at his peak and still fails to properly show fundamental swordsmanship. Both Bee and Mifune displayed how punishing a mistake is. Sasuke let his guard down mid combat and was pin cushioned instantly by Bee.

It goes to show just how far sharingan can make a moderate sword user high tier.

Ridiculous, as always. Your responses, I mean.

He deflected his Raiton with Raiton. Sasuke didn't let his guard down. Bee still couldn't create a room even when the guy was badly injured. But, nah.

Orochimaru praises the guy, Mifune does it, Bee accepts that Sasuke is the strongest guy he fought. Madara praises his Kenjutsu movement. All wrong, but your imbecilic claims hold water.

Nah, it goes to show that even a half-backed and pettily constructed reply can get praises from the right lobby. I hope to god you don't think this is even a half-decent reply.

2. Yes it's a knock on their swordsmanshil. Suigetsu is a shit sword user to begin with. So is kisame but he's good enough with samehada's abilities. But keep comparing Sasuke to those 2 to make yourself feel better.

Last reply tho this site is ass on mobile.

Suigetsu is one of the best swordsmen in the manga. As Kisame stated. But nah.

 

[shadowcb]

Ridiculous, as always. Your responses, I mean.

He deflected his Raiton with Raiton. Sasuke didn't let his guard down. Bee still couldn't create a room even when the guy was badly injured. But, nah.

Orochimaru praises the guy, Mifune does it, Bee accepts that Sasuke is the strongest guy he fought. Madara praises his Kenjutsu movement. All wrong, but your imbecilic claims hold water.

Nah, it goes to show that even a half-backed and pettily constructed reply can get praises from the right lobby. I hope to god you don't think this is even a half-decent reply.



Suigetsu is one of the best swordsmen in the manga. As Kisame stated. But nah.

Stop overrating Sasuke and making up BS.

Killer Bee bested Sasuke twice in swordsmanship -

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Sasuke was not badly injured when he fought Killer. He may not have fully recovered, but that doesn't equal to being badly injure. Killer did state that Sasuke was was the strongest guy he has fought, but he wasn't talking about his swordsmanship. He was clearly talking about his MS powers.

Madara praised Sasuke Sharingan not swordsmanship -

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