Chakra Control: Naruto or Sakura

[KingHashirama]

Oh if anyone here is thinking i'm trying to force my opinion.. then please just stop replying to me and just reply to the OP.... all i'm doing is discussing the matter.

So then him being the only known person to master sage chakra with known physical side effects perfectly and perform shape and nature manipulation to do rasenshuriken counts for something right?

I'm not even saying Naruto is better. Sakura could be better and probably is but remember you made that thread about people overstepping situations with the words "solo" "stomped on" and etc so you don't really think Sakura is "smashing" him in this subject do you? I think they're pretty close if nothing else

No he is not even on the same level as Sakura.... I'm a Naruto myself over any other character even Hashirama... But I take my sh*t serious when people try to give something that Naruto doesn't have or take away something from him.

His character was never meant to be a chakra control master, why make him into one?

Ok let me simplify it for you:

Who is better in Mokuton, a person who just does the seals and puts out the jutsus (But can't control it outside of that jutsu), or someone who can control Mokuton at will?

@trolling at its finest lol TBB is more complicated than rasengan which why naruto had a hard time doing it on turtle island.
you say people wank over one technique isnt that the same thing you're doing?

And hence why Naruto trolled the sh*t out of TBB when he gained BM? Sure was harder then the technique that took a week..

Now show me the technique i'm wanking on.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Naruto imho.

 

[Ebisu]

This guy needs help and to ***** to respond to my points. Sit bych I have transcended fappers like you before.​

 

[To Whatever]

Rasengan > Tbb.. as far as complications go... And again anything he has done that isn't circle?

You guys wank over 1 technique like its all that when its not. I mean you have people here giving the ability that is granted by Kurama and counter it as part of self chakra control.

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra control, cannot make anything that is not sphere

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra has not shown the ability to give out chakra

Dude, do not bunch me up with a "you guys", no one is wanking over 1 technique like it's all that. Like Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, and Planetary rasengan, they are great examples of Naruto's chakra control. Hell, he's matched Sasuke's ratio like it was nothing to do Halo Gale Jet Black Arrow Style Zero. He also matched with Yamato in the hidan arc.

It's becoming less about Naruto's chakra control and more about you trying say Kurama is the reason he can properly control the TBB ratio and fire it in fast repetition. If that was the case he would just let Kurama take over his body and do that.

If anything, it's wanking when all Sakura has shown is the ability to Precisly pinpoint her chakra into punches and her Seal. Nothing else.

 

[Lucidus]

Rasengan > Tbb.. as far as complications go... And again anything he has done that isn't circle?

You guys wank over 1 technique like its all that when its not. I mean you have people here giving the ability that is granted by Kurama and counter it as part of self chakra control.

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra control, cannot make anything that is not sphere

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra has not shown the ability to give out chakra


-sigh- this is sad.

I can say the quite opposite for Naruto. Sakura has the ability to focus ALL of her chakra into a single part of the body, can Naruto? no. She can then form shapes with her chakra as she pleases can Naruto? none besides the ones he trained for and took days to master.

since the Rasengan is based off of TBB im gonna say no and say that TBB is a higher form since as the person said before me he has to keep a perfect ratio which is chakra control

you keep disreguarding the fact he can use Kurama's chakra but if anything this just backs him up.. he is able to use a chakra that isnt his own to a perfect degree admitted some of the things he can do is only because of the kyuubi's chakra.. but that doesnt affect his chakra control.. the chakra control is all himself

And to argue the fact that you say naruto cant give out chakra without kyuubi's chakra.. this is wrong as it has already been said that minato did it.. but naruto did it on a higher level... there is no reason why naruto cant give out his own chakra but it is more beneficial to the alliance to give out kurama's chakra rather than his own..

 

[KingHashirama]

since the Rasengan is based off of TBB im gonna say no and say that TBB is a higher form since as the person said before me he has to keep a perfect ratio which is chakra control

you keep disreguarding the fact he can use Kurama's chakra but if anything this just backs him up.. he is able to use a chakra that isnt his own to a perfect degree admitted some of the things he can do is only because of the kyuubi's chakra.. but that doesnt affect his chakra control.. the chakra control is all himself

And to argue the fact that you say naruto cant give out chakra without kyuubi's chakra.. this is wrong as it has already been said that minato did it.. but naruto did it on a higher level... there is no reason why naruto cant give out his own chakra but it is more beneficial to the alliance to give out kurama's chakra rather than his own..

Based off of doesn't = copied.

For Rasengan, he also needs a perfect ratio.. have you forgot the balloon exercise? If the ratio of his chakra had gone out it would've been done for. On top of that I doubt a technique that took 1 day to learn is harder than a technique that took a whole week.

Yea Killer B can use chakra that isn't his own either, but he sure in hell was never said to be a master in Chakra control. See its funny that you guys claim something is a big feat of chakra control, when the manga really doesn't put it as a chakra control feat...

Minato did it, just like Naruto did it with Kurama's chakra. But again, nothing big to a medical ninja. Good that he learned it..

 

[Troyg39]

No he is not even on the same level as Sakura.... I'm a Naruto myself over any other character even Hashirama... But I take my sh*t serious when people try to give something that Naruto doesn't have or take away something from him.

His character was never meant to be a chakra control master, why make him into one?

Ok let me simplify it for you:

Who is better in Mokuton, a person who just does the seals and puts out the jutsus (But can't control it outside of that jutsu), or someone who can control Mokuton at will?

See that depends to me. If the person who can control Mokuton at will can only control a small portion of mokuton at a time without being overwhelmed isn't that much ahead of someone who can send out a massive amount of it. It takes chakra control to do both. Yes the pinnacle of chakra control is preciseness, but what good is having enough control over an amount of chakra so small that you can't do much with it? It's just as bad as having enough control to use a massive amount of chakra but not being able to fully control all of it.

It's like raising children almost. If I'm raising only 3 children at once and you're raising 10 at once. My 3 kids grow up and go to the best college in the nation, while your 10 kids go to decent schools. Is my control over my kids really better than yours?

My only point, and I think others are making too, is that there isn't a "smashing" difference between them that's all. Even with your shape form argument, I've only seen Sakura form her chakra into a medical sphere and a charkra blade. That's only one more form than Naruto, and again, she's working with less chakra. She controls small amounts of chakra great. But Naruto does alright with way more chakra. She might be better, but do you really think it's by that much? Ok Sakura is the master, Naruto isn't. Cool. But saying Naruto isn't a master doesn't mean he's that far off from her. Tsunade is a Kage. Jiraiya never was. That doesn't mean Tsunade's kage level smashes Jiraiya

 

[-Spoiler-]

And hence why Naruto trolled the sh*t out of TBB when he gained BM? Sure was harder then the technique that took a week..

Now show me the technique i'm wanking on.

Byakugou since its basically the only thing he keep repeating about sakura

During means nothing to naruto since during his wind release training he did what would take a normal ninja months in hours

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I like to see Sakura perfectly hand out chakra to every single person in SA who all have different chakra natures,even Tobirama and Hashirama said what Naruto did was a impressive display.Until Sakura can do something on that scale Naruto has the better chakra control of the two.

 

[Joshutsu]

It's been better before this. This just adds wayyy more icing to the cake than what was needed. Denial sweeping the polls and comments.

 

[KingHashirama]

Byakugou since its basically the only thing he keep repeating about sakura

During means nothing to naruto since during his wind release training he did what would take a normal ninja months in hours

Yup, you need to start reading my threads more, before responding..

Yea he did do that. But am i suppose to forget about all the shadow clones? (now you'll say "that was his ability" I never said it wasn't.. but still doesn't change the fact he gained the experience of over 60 people..)

Dude, do not bunch me up with a "you guys", no one is wanking over 1 technique like it's all that. Like Rasengan, Rasenshuriken, and Planetary rasengan, they are great examples of Naruto's chakra control. Hell, he's matched Sasuke's ratio like it was nothing to do Halo Gale Jet Black Arrow Style Zero. He also matched with Yamato in the hidan arc.

It's becoming less about Naruto's chakra control and more about you trying say Kurama is the reason he can properly control the TBB ratio and fire it in fast repetition. If that was the case he would just let Kurama take over his body and do that.

If anything, it's wanking when all Sakura has shown is the ability to Precisly pinpoint her chakra into punches and her Seal. Nothing else.

Yes and that my friend is really good, but notice that it hasn't been feated to having great chakra control. And Sasuke also matched his just so you know.

False, I'm giving the differences between the feats that you are putting as chakra control. And the one to first TBBs at fast repetetion, i'm pretty sure that was Kurama himself......

- Him controlling the cloaks = Ability given from Kurama

- All the chakra arms = ability given by Kurama

- TBB is something that is inferior to Rasengan when it comes to Mastery.


And no sadly, I have stated plenty of other Sakura chakra manipulation feats that you failed to acknowledge. And also, if the manga says pinnacle of chakra control = preciseness, I am suppose to say no it = huge scale?

 

[Joshutsu]

I like to see Sakura perfectly hand out chakra to every single person in SA who all have different chakra natures,even Tobirama and Hashirama said what Naruto did was a impressive display.Until Sakura can do something on that scale Naruto has the better chakra control of the two.

It's called remote healing and it is just as good of a feat, she had the ability to remotely tend to the variation in wounds of thousands of shinobi and rapidly heal them as seen in various panels (you should know what chapters to look in), even latest chapter proves how chakra consuming medical ninjutsu is as well and she's been dishing out her average reserves for ages.

 

[shadowcb]

Rasengan > Tbb.. as far as complications go... And again anything he has done that isn't circle?

You guys wank over 1 technique like its all that when its not. I mean you have people here giving the ability that is granted by Kurama and counter it as part of self chakra control.

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra control, cannot make anything that is not sphere

- Naruto without Kyuubi's chakra has not shown the ability to give out chakra


-sigh- this is sad.

I can say the quite opposite for Naruto. Sakura has the ability to focus ALL of her chakra into a single part of the body, can Naruto? no. She can then form shapes with her chakra as she pleases can Naruto? none besides the ones he trained for and took days to master.

Kyuubi doesn't improve Naruto's chakra control skills. It's fact that Kyuubi makes it harder for Naruto to control his chakra.

PS: The FRS is actually wind shaped into microscopic needles that forms the shape of a huge shuriken that surrounds a sphere. That justu has 3 differents shapes.

 

[KingHashirama]

I like to see Sakura perfectly hand out chakra to every single person in SA who all have different chakra natures,even Tobirama and Hashirama said what Naruto did was a impressive display.Until Sakura can do something on that scale Naruto has the better chakra control of the two.

- She already transfered chakra to Darui.. Already HEALED the whole alliance with HER CHAKRA.. Oh let me not forget that healing requires mad chakra control. And she did it on a HUGE scale.

Kyuubi doesn't improve Naruto's chakra control skills. It's fact that Kyuubi makes it harder for Naruto to control his chakra.

PS: The FRS is actually wind shaped into microscopic needles that forms the shape of a huge shuriken that surrounds a sphere. That justu has 3 differents shapes.

Never said it does. But it grants Naruto abilities, that you fans are taking as chakra control feats.

Yup only problem is Naruto didn't design those microscopic needles himself, they just came up without his knowing.

 

[Headmaster]

I would say sakura is overall better.

 

[-Spoiler-]

It's been better before this. This just adds wayyy more icing to the cake than what was needed. Denial sweeping the polls and comments.

Please explain how has it been better?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

It's been better before this. This just adds wayyy more icing to the cake than what was needed. Denial sweeping the polls and comments.

Again Naruto was commended by Kurama,Hashirama,and Tobirama for perfectly handing out chakra to thousands of people despite different chakra natures.Sakura is amazing at Chakra Control but Naruto slightly edges her out.

 

[KingHashirama]

Again Naruto was commended by Kurama,Hashirama,and Tobirama for perfectly handing out chakra to thousands of people despite different chakra natures.Sakura is amazing at Chakra Control but Naruto slightly edges her out.

Nope sadly it was only Kurama who mentioned him on that.

 

[take it easy]

naruto transfered and adapt chakra sakura just transfered her chakra without adaptation

 

[Joshutsu]

Please explain how has it been better?

I'm going to assume we are going to ignore the constant praise Sakura has gotten since part 1, and disregard all the times when ninja over naruto have made mention of his imprefect chakra control, and the fact it takes naruto time to learn how to mix chakra for certain techniques well and so on. Let's just do that. This has been discussed too many times for me to pull out scans and go through all that drama.