[Discussion] Can you explain Obito's quote?

[Byron123]

Now I have read some of minamoto's theories and even though I don't agree with him, he used a panel that made me wonder about its meaning:

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How Obito was planning to use Nagato's rinnei tensei for his benefit? What was he planning? In case he was about to die or let's say to revive Akatsuki? What is the most possible explanation that you can give?

 

[Tobi98]

It was to revive Madara

 

[Byron123]

It was to revive Madara

Then why when he saw Madara in kabuto's coffin, was he so shocked and why was he so annoyed when he was revived? Obito wasn't planning to revive him at all so what you state is a mistake.

 

[Tobi98]

Then why when he saw Madara in kabuto's coffin, was he so shocked and why was he so annoyed when he was revived? Obito wasn't planning to revive him at all so what you state is a mistake.

Madara said he wasn't supposed to be revived by Edo tensei, so it had to be through rinne tensei

Obito was mad cuz Kabuto knew who he is and because he could control Madara

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Then why when he saw Madara in kabuto's coffin, was he so shocked and why was he so annoyed when he was revived? Obito wasn't planning to revive him at all so what you state is a mistake.

Because he didn't expect anyone else to have the knowledge to be able to revive madara besides himself. He was annoyed because this means he had to work with kabuto for the time being, and give him some details of his plan.

 

[Byron123]

Madara said he wasn't supposed to be revived by Edo tensei, so it had to be through rinne tensei

Obito was mad cuz Kabuto knew who he is and because he could control Madara

Because he didn't expect anyone else to have the knowledge to be able to revive madara besides himself. He was annoyed because this means he had to work with kabuto for the time being, and give him some details of his plan.

Guys you fail to see the basic relationship between Obito and Madara. Obito has clearly stated that he didn't consider Madara as an ally, why do you think that he would want to revive him?

 

[Tobi98]

Guys you fail to see the basic relationship between Obito and Madara. Obito has clearly stated that he didn't consider Madara as an ally, why do you think that he would want to revive him?

He needed him, that doesn't mean he likes him or anything

 

[BasedProphet]

this is amazing, I wonder if there's more to this that hasn't been said yet?

 

[Byron123]

He needed him, that doesn't mean he likes him or anything

I'm not so sure about that but guess it's a logical explanation.


Edit: If you really think about it, all this happened before even the beginning of the war and that being said Obito was planning to start to the war based on the power he had till now without Kabuto's humongous help. That being said even Madara cannot be compared to all these shinobi kabuto revived, so it's not so sure htta really needed him.

 

[vasu 32]

He was just toying with Zetsu standing beside him. He knew full well that they are totally devoted to Madara,and since needed them,thus was making them believe that he is still following Madara's plan,so as to use them.

 

[coucou myriam]

that rinne tinsei was suppoded to revive rin,,,what do u think?

 

[kageking]

He probably had to lie to black zetsu ( who serves madara directly ).

 

[Meowazziel]

Now I have read some of minamoto's theories and even though I don't agree with him, he used a panel that made me wonder about its meaning:

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How Obito was planning to use Nagato's rinnei tensei for his benefit? What was he planning? In case he was about to die or let's say to revive Akatsuki? What is the most possible explanation that you can give?

For his benifit as in he needed Nagato's Rinne tensei for something.

A few possibilities exist:
-Obito wanting to revive Madara (That Rinne Tensei was suppose to be for Obito's goals).
-Reviving him (Obito) himself if he would die.
-Reviving himself (Madara) if Obito is somehow partly Madara/Someone who behaves in Madara's interests.
-He was lying to Black Zetsu (having to act as if he, Obito, wants to revive Madara, when he doesnt want to).
-Reiviving Rin.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Obito was lying for Zetsu. He never planned to revive Madara.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

He was just toying with Zetsu standing beside him. He knew full well that they are totally devoted to Madara,and since needed them,thus was making them believe that he is still following Madara's plan,so as to use them.

This^^^^ makes sense.

 

[Angelic.]

A: because we were supposed to believe he was madara at the time
B:to lie to zetsu. zetsu said obito didnt follow the plan and did his own thing.

when edo madra showed up he asked obito where nagato was. real madara didnt know he betrayed them.

i wouldnt be surprised if sasuke did sync with the gedo now bc that arm is still around. lol thats a long foreshadow.

 

[minamoto]

Byron your mind is speaking the truth inspite of you...that was tobimadara speaking...comon join my side...don't let yourself be fooled by kishimoto

 

[minamoto]

He was just toying with Zetsu standing beside him. He knew full well that they are totally devoted to Madara,and since needed them,thus was making them believe that he is still following Madara's plan,so as to use them.

leave byron alone , his mind is speaking logic...stop spoiling his mind..that was the 2nd madara who got mad becuz nagato didnt revive him

 

[Floydical]

Guys you fail to see the basic relationship between Obito and Madara. Obito has clearly stated that he didn't consider Madara as an ally, why do you think that he would want to revive him?

Some people have said this already, but he was continuing with his mascaraed as Madara. Zetsu was loyal to only Madara, so if Obito wanted Zetsu to continue being his servant, he had to make Zetsu believe he was devoted to Madara's cause.

 

[minamoto]

[SIZE=3[B]plzz watch this video carfully and slowly and notice parts wheere tobi being obito dont make sence...for exemple..wat he said to kabuto and minato and kushina proves he cant be obito...at 1st i thought madara just sealed his consioussness within obito..but according to the mystery of the insides...the empty shell of madara..or another madara is inside obito...and spiral zetsu is also part of tobi...but the dominant tobi is madara[/B]][/SIZE]