Can someone tell me what OP is all about

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

hmm that's a bit condescending don't you think?

i've only been through half of one piece once so i'm not in a position to compare and contrast really. but from what i've seen, while i've noticed many different meanings in OP so far, imo naruto delves into them more deeply. yeah you get a lot of rl situations in OP as opposed to Naruto, but on the whole i think Naruto's story revolves around key values more than OP does. that's just my personal opinion.

Honour, protecting your friends and bonds no matter what, the importance of not giving up, the strengths of love over hate, the dangers of vengeance, sacrifice, these are all explored very deeply in Naruto and these are essentially lessons you can pick out straight from the manga and apply to real life. You know what they say, the greatest lessons are often the simplest ones.

Naruto is just a cheezy ass soap-opera. At first I thought this "bond" thing that Naruto and Sasuke share is a japanese thing but I haven't seen it in DB or OP or any other anime for that matter so I guess it's just an asspull from Kishi to have a reason for Naruto to chase after Sasuke.

Atleast in One Piece I can feel why Luffy and the rest are doing all those ridiculous things for their Nakama. What Straw Hats did for Robin was probably most epic and touching moment in anime history.

 

[ackeem1992]

Now i watched a couple episodes of OP when it came on Tv one time i must have watched about a dozen,it didnt seem to be that great to be honest, I mean there is all this hype about how OP is waay better than naruto and FT,But i just dont get how a guy who can stretch his arms,some reindeer whos about 1ft tall but then goes into a humoungous beast when he is angry is that intresting.Also most of the dialouge was if i remember correctly was pretty boring the only talk was saying something like ready to die? there was hardly any conversations between "the Group" that made you think yeah i get what this guys personality is supposed to be,it was like watching Resident evil afterlife any small talk was about one word long...

Correct me if im wrong but the story is about some kid who eats some fruit and becomes "Strechty" seriously? Stretchy is that the best ability...
And that this kid is searching for a treasure called one piece?,But for what 500/600 episodes your searching for the same treasure.That just doesnt make alot of sense to me.

This anime to me seems really childish and looks like it will get boring...quick i even asked someone if OP is so great point me to your favourite fight, you know what i got? some kid standing with a tooth pic in his mouth shouting Gumi Gumi whatever with his arms apparently moving "very Fast" "machine Gun Punching " some weirdo,The kid "luffy" was literally standing in one place while his arms were just flexing about.To me that seems childish and im a kid :|

So can someone enlighten me to what on earth is so great about this anime that its got the number one spot? please i really want to know because when so many people say something is great you start to think your missing out on something ...

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the OP you watched was probably the one on cartoon network that 4kids was dubbing if so then it was full of wrong, they gave the characters sleezy voices, sanji's cigarettes was replaced with a lollipop, the dialog between the characters were pg, and alot more more wrong. then after a while funimation took it over and started dubbing it it wasn't any better if you asked me though, you have to go online or read the manga to get the real version, its a epic series. but i prefer naruto over it any day just a preference.

 

[Peekatchu]

I have the same problem. One of my friends loves it and rages to me that I don't like it, but it's just so hard to get into. He says the story line and the characters are amazing, but it's hard to take the characters seriously when they look ridiculous. I HATE the art in OP. Some things about it seem cool, like that Luffy doesn't have god-like strength. That's one of the things that's getting a bit tedious about Naruto. He can beat pretty much anyone, even if they are stonger, because he talks them to death. I also find it pretty hard to commit to a series with 100+ episodes. The only reason I read Naruto is because I started like 5/6 years ago when the original was still being released. Most of the serieses I watch are only around 20 episodes. If I wanted to watch a good fighting anime I'd watch Samurai Champloo again.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Eh, I don't care too much for it either :shrug: U_U

 

[Boa Hancock]

I have the same problem. One of my friends loves it and rages to me that I don't like it, but it's just so hard to get into. He says the story line and the characters are amazing, but it's hard to take the characters seriously when they look ridiculous. I HATE the art in OP. Some things about it seem cool, like that Luffy doesn't have god-like strength. That's one of the things that's getting a bit tedious about Naruto. He can beat pretty much anyone, even if they are stonger, because he talks them to death. I also find it pretty hard to commit to a series with 100+ episodes. The only reason I read Naruto is because I started like 5/6 years ago when the original was still being released. Most of the serieses I watch are only around 20 episodes. If I wanted to watch a good fighting anime I'd watch Samurai Champloo again.

I think the problem is that, at least for Americans, appreciation for art is always filtered through the Greco - Roman and Renaissance traditions which place a great deal of emphasis on symmetry and idealized beauty. Once upon a time the Baroque movements emphasis on sweeping lines and ornate themes was highly controversial. Even St. Peter's Square in Vatican City was controversial for being an ellipse, rather than a circle. Speaking of, Copernicus incorrectly believed that planets followed perfectly circular orbits around the sun. he believed this not because of scientific data but the belief that the paths of the planets must be perfect circles rather than flawed ellipses. Modern science began when Kepler grudgingly chose to concede that his data suggested elliptical orbits, not hoped for circular paths. As One Piece does not adhere to the ideals of classic art, it is often mistaken as bad art.

I do think there is merit in suggesting there are inconsistencies in his art. He does have a tendency to lose track of scale with characters. While I think he is usually outstanding at designing characters, he does draw the occasional duds. The Neptune brothers being good, recent examples. Not that I am complaining, Oda will make up for it later. Most of his characters are really fun and unique looking.

I also direct you to a painting by my good friend Pablo Picasso.

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That is his self portrait that he painted. Doesn't look like him at all. Does that mean it's bad art? No, art being bad is purely according to how much it adheres to the current style of art in a chosen medium, and it just so happens that OP's art was popular in the previous decade. What's popular right now are symmetrical lines, big boobs, clean faces and big eyes.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

What's popular right now are symmetrical lines, big boobs, clean faces and big eyes.

*looks at your avatar*

 

[Boa Hancock]

*looks at your avatar*

Touche.

 

[Cartera]

OK first OP is best way not to be depressed.

also op is something you want to watch not read. also op is most funny show i have ever watch.........

 

[NaruGokuPWNS]

Maybe you'll understand when you're a bit more mature. But there are many more lessons learned in One Piece then there are in Naruto.
Naruto has few morals to its story. (Protect your friends, don't get caught up in vengeance).
While One Piece has many more morals just in one arc alone. And there are always a deeper meaning to why there is a battle.

There are many serious themes in One Piece too, while Naruto almost only follows one theme. In One Piece, you see slavery, racism, dictatorship, coup d'etat, revolution, and much more.

It just takes time to notice it all.
I've watched most of the arcs 3-4 times, and every time I watch them, I find something new.

The overall story of Naruto is very simplistic, there are some complex situations, but overall its a simplistic story. While One Pieces story quickly gets very complex. You can view it in a simplistic fashion, ignoring the deeper meanings, or you can try and understand the deeper meanings.

One Piece doesn't need conversation to make stuff meaningful, it makes stuff meaningful through action and reaction.

U_U Actually, there are many flaws whith that statement.....The Naruto overall story isn't simplistic. There is actually coup d'teat, if you read the manga you would actually know about the Uchiha coup d'teat and that they tried to destroy and take over konoha. Also, Danzo wanting a REVOLUTION in konoha and to take over sarutobi and banish sarutobi's morals.

And the naruto story isn't just about Naruto chasing sasuke, see the 5 Kage summit arc in the manga, its packed with all sorts of themes. Love/confession (sakura confesses/lies about her love for naruto), action, drama, twists, truth and many more....
There is also the story of the SO6P, the senju/uchiha rivalry and lots of LIES and DECEPTION are involved with this part of the naruto story, like how nearly everybody thought tobi was Madara when he's (apparently) NOT.

Naruto also holds alot of morals about todays world (also about the 3 past wars in naruto world and also the constant search for peace like what jiryia and naruto are trying/tried to do). So NO the story isn't overall simplistic xd .

 

[siyo]

Naruto is just a cheezy ass soap-opera. .

Lol, why would you watch a cheezy ass soap-opera? And, you're such a fan, you actually joined a fan site dedicated to all thing naruto... :|

One piece is great but no reason to downgrade Naruto.

 

[Haruno Hyuuga Yamanaka]

Oh dear, this thread is still open... how horrible. Can it be closed after this post? The question was answered.

I have the same problem. One of my friends loves it and rages to me that I don't like it, but it's just so hard to get into. He says the story line and the characters are amazing, but it's hard to take the characters seriously when they look ridiculous. I HATE the art in OP. Some things about it seem cool, like that Luffy doesn't have god-like strength. That's one of the things that's getting a bit tedious about Naruto. He can beat pretty much anyone, even if they are stonger, because he talks them to death. I also find it pretty hard to commit to a series with 100+ episodes. The only reason I read Naruto is because I started like 5/6 years ago when the original was still being released. Most of the serieses I watch are only around 20 episodes. If I wanted to watch a good fighting anime I'd watch Samurai Champloo again.

Bolded: The anime started back in 1999! What did you expect, that the first episodes are like the art of Naruto or Bleach nowadays? No, it's obviously not. It was 20th century animation! :flaw: It progresses as you advance, see:

Nami in Buggy arc:

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Nami in Water 7 arc:

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Nami in Fishman Island arc (actual):

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See the difference?

 

[NaruGokuPWNS]

hmm that's a bit condescending don't you think?

i've only been through half of one piece once so i'm not in a position to compare and contrast really. but from what i've seen, while i've noticed many different meanings in OP so far, imo naruto delves into them more deeply. yeah you get a lot of rl situations in OP as opposed to Naruto, but on the whole i think Naruto's story revolves around key values more than OP does. that's just my personal opinion.

Honour, protecting your friends and bonds no matter what, the importance of not giving up, the strengths of love over hate, the dangers of vengeance, sacrifice, these are all explored very deeply in Naruto and these are essentially lessons you can pick out straight from the manga and apply to real life. You know what they say, the greatest lessons are often the simplest ones.

^^Exactly.

 

[x9lb babynaruto]

Lol wow ppl get so butt hurt over lil comic books xD

 

[bajram]

I really dont know why u guys care this much about anime's anyway after all they are anime lol?

 

[Boa Hancock]

U_U Actually, there are many flaws whith that statement.....The Naruto overall story isn't simplistic. There is actually coup d'teat, if you read the manga you would actually know about the Uchiha coup d'teat and that they tried to destroy and take over konoha. Also, Danzo wanting a REVOLUTION in konoha and to take over sarutobi and banish sarutobi's morals.

Naruto's plot presents itself as complex but it's actually a simple problem. I think everyone here reads Naruto one way or the other. What was the point of the Uchiha coup d etat again? Where is Sarutobi again? Where is Danzo again? Yeah. I can't believe you'd bring up things which aren't relevant now or have been pushed aside in the current issues.

And the naruto story isn't just about Naruto chasing sasuke, see the 5 Kage summit arc in the manga, its packed with all sorts of themes. Love/confession (sakura confesses/lies about her love for naruto), action, drama, twists, truth and many more....
There is also the story of the SO6P, the senju/uchiha rivalry and lots of LIES and DECEPTION are involved with this part of the naruto story, like how nearly everybody thought tobi was Madara when he's (apparently) NOT.

It's about Naruto chasing Sasuke with a lot of detours. What was Naruto's dream again? Become a Hokage you say? Well then, is he on the way on being Hokage? I see him trying to ... you know, SAVE THE WORLD.

Love is a theme with Naruto? All I saw were 2 disjointed confessions being pushed to the side. Poor Hinata. After she confessed, nothing happened.

Sage of Six Paths is intriguing? What is?

Tobi not being Madara was just Kishi trolling. It's not LIES and DECEPTION my gosh. It's a typical reveal, there's nothing deceptive about it. Something deceptive would be Robin's betrayal. No one knew she was just using the Strawhats until the reveal on Water Seven. THAT is how you pull off deception. Not this horrible reveal of Tobi.

Naruto also holds alot of morals about todays world (also about the 3 past wars in naruto world and also the constant search for peace like what jiryia and naruto are trying/tried to do). So NO the story isn't overall simplistic xd .

Oh, it holds a lot of morals? Like what? Naruto having a big head whenever a battle is coming up? You should just kill everyone for making you have a shitty past? Defer your goals to somebody stronger even though you can handle it yourself? Those are what you call morals?

Listen here. Naruto didn't solve anything with Nagato, yet Nagato just gave up years of hard work after Naruto sweet-talked him. Is that looking for peace?

Shikamaru had more character development than Naruto, true story. He actually GREW UP after Asuma's death. All Naruto developed was a big head after obtaining all that power.

Funny.

 

[iFiVa]

Does anyone have a link to OP episodes?

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[Dracule]

Why is this still open? We already taught these peasants their lesson. Let it die.

 

[Zwei]

Why is this still open? We already taught these peasants their lesson. Let it die.

i agree, bro. can any mods/Gmods close this thread?

 

[imadnemeir]

currently i'm watching Bleach, until i become up to speed with it just like Naruto, i have no reason to start watching one piece

 

[Hyperion]

currently i'm watching Bleach, until i become up to speed with it just like Naruto, i have no reason to start watching one piece

And no reason to post in the One Piece Sub Forum.