[Discussion] Can an Admiral one shot Luffy?

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Jinbe's bounty didn't increase after BM incident. It increased after Marineford Arc.

It was stated that his bounty is over 400m, and we got exact number in Vivre Card databook.
 

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And with that Luffy can take aerial route n can attack whenever he wants.
That bounce thing is similar to flight.



2kong guns
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/837/17
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/838/3

Barrage of Kong organ guns
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/838/9
not counting any G2 or G3 attacks mind it.
Lets also not forget that the fight continues for 11some hours.
We don't even know how many times Cracker evaded Luffys G4.
We should also not forget that at the end of the Dressrosa Luffy said If kong gun is not working then i will use something different i.e KKG. So that's also a possibility that he might have tried that also in that 11hr fight.
So if u call Doffy a tank since he took
1 kong gun
1 rhino schieder
1 Cavalry canon
1 leo bazuka
1 KKG
That's it Doffy only took 5hits from G4 before he went down while Cracker took 6hits from G4 Kong organ alone(barrage of punches), 2 kong gun n one hit from his final form.
So Cracker took more hits than Doffy.


Luffy was infront of him.
Gatz pick him n ran away
Doffy had Conqueror Haki to ko fodders n that's before Law shambles him.
See its similar to your Nami point.

Cracker pushed Luffy to his limits. if i m not wrong he even said a statement like fighting one of his biscuit is like fighting a strong guy(something of that sort).
He had shit tonne of stamina n as i showed above he took more punishment than Doffy.
Unlike Luffy, Doffy also doesn't have the advantage of Rain. So cracker doesn't even have to worry about soggy biscuits.
Now the point of flight. Luffy himself can go aerial route n keep his distance from Cracker but i expect a Yonko commander probably have mid- long range attacks.
Doffy uses BC n then what run away???
In crackers case he doesn't have any limitations(G4 time limit) n he can create infinite no. of biscuits to stop BC.
Lets also not forget Cracker was able to cut G4 luffy(Boundman).
So in close quarter he can cut Doffy easily.


Bruh if someone was part of a crew for a year u think he wont grow???
I guess Luffy didn't grow from Fishman Island to Wano arc???
Ace was still fighting with others after he joined WBs crew. He kept travelling before he become a 2nd commander. Whats so hard to understand that Ace wasnt a commander when that fight broke out?
its even funny that Jinbei lost to Ace when he had an element advantage over him n he was close to the sea.


So u want to say the whole water manipulation doesn't work on 1st commanders but will effect 3rd Commanders???
Even tho it only showed G3 sort of damage so far but then again who i m arguing with. U think G3 hits can take down a commander.


It came out in September this year if i m not wrong.

Good thing u kept rest of the things in your own quote since u are like a broken record saying the same thing again after again.
Its even funny u wrote the worst case scenario for WG was Luffy n for that they appointed Garp n Sengoku :lmao:
Cool story:cheer:
 

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And with that Luffy can take aerial route n can attack whenever he wants.
That bounce thing is similar to flight.



2kong guns
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/837/17
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/838/3

Barrage of Kong organ guns
https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/838/9
not counting any G2 or G3 attacks mind it.
Lets also not forget that the fight continues for 11some hours.
We don't even know how many times Cracker evaded Luffys G4.
We should also not forget that at the end of the Dressrosa Luffy said If kong gun is not working then i will use something different i.e KKG. So that's also a possibility that he might have tried that also in that 11hr fight.
So if u call Doffy a tank since he took
1 kong gun
1 rhino schieder
1 Cavalry canon
1 leo bazuka
1 KKG
That's it Doffy only took 5hits from G4 before he went down while Cracker took 6hits from G4 Kong organ alone(barrage of punches), 2 kong gun n one hit from his final form.
So Cracker took more hits than Doffy.


Luffy was infront of him.
Gatz pick him n ran away
Doffy had Conqueror Haki to ko fodders n that's before Law shambles him.
See its similar to your Nami point.

Cracker pushed Luffy to his limits. if i m not wrong he even said a statement like fighting one of his biscuit is like fighting a strong guy(something of that sort).
He had shit tonne of stamina n as i showed above he took more punishment than Doffy.
Unlike Luffy, Doffy also doesn't have the advantage of Rain. So cracker doesn't even have to worry about soggy biscuits.
Now the point of flight. Luffy himself can go aerial route n keep his distance from Cracker but i expect a Yonko commander probably have mid- long range attacks.
Doffy uses BC n then what run away???
In crackers case he doesn't have any limitations(G4 time limit) n he can create infinite no. of biscuits to stop BC.
Lets also not forget Cracker was able to cut G4 luffy(Boundman).
So in close quarter he can cut Doffy easily.


Bruh if someone was part of a crew for a year u think he wont grow???
I guess Luffy didn't grow from Fishman Island to Wano arc???
Ace was still fighting with others after he joined WBs crew. He kept travelling before he become a 2nd commander. Whats so hard to understand that Ace wasnt a commander when that fight broke out?
its even funny that Jinbei lost to Ace when he had an element advantage over him n he was close to the sea.


So u want to say the whole water manipulation doesn't work on 1st commanders but will effect 3rd Commanders???
Even tho it only showed G3 sort of damage so far but then again who i m arguing with. U think G3 hits can take down a commander.


It came out in September this year if i m not wrong.

Good thing u kept rest of the things in your own quote since u are like a broken record saying the same thing again after again.
Its even funny u wrote the worst case scenario for WG was Luffy n for that they appointed Garp n Sengoku :lmao:
Lol nice fanfic

Bounce and flight are not the same...
Flight is your able to stay in the air indefinitely which doffy can do to avoid crackers arsenal entirely..

Luffy didn't do a barrage of kong guns he did organ its clearly shown in the pic you sent.


Lastly cracker took one hit from puffy only which was kong gun instant ko to a different island...
With nami making his crackers soggy. The rest of those attacks were on the cracker clones and luffy trying to find him...

Doffy all of gear 4th onslaught, plus everything law through at him (gamma knife injection shot etc.)
And 100 of citizens and viola. All this while holding back an entire country from escaping his grasp

Need I remind you those people include zoro fuji bar to cabbage chin jao sai a giant etc
Keep in mind he was doing all of this at the same time while fighting luffy/law

Stop you're embarrassing yourself.
 

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So u are saying with that bounce thing luffy hasn't gone aerial???

Bounce and flight are not the same...
Flight is your able to stay in the air indefinitely which doffy can do to avoid crackers arsenal entirely..
So Doffy is basically running in this fight. I get it. Even if he gets awakening n stuff u r trying to say he wont fight with him in close combat.
In Luffy vs Doffy fight he didn't maintained any distance. So the hit n run sort of policy was never adopted by Doffy.yet u are saying it in such a way that Doffy fights in that way.

Luffy didn't do a barrage of kong guns he did organ its clearly shown in the pic you sent.
And Kong organ is also a G4 hit.
I already gave u the complete list What Doffy took n what Cracker took which was shown.

Lastly cracker took one hit from puffy only which was kong gun instant ko to a different island...
With nami making his crackers soggy. The rest of those attacks were on the cracker clones and luffy trying to find him...
Crackers biscuits count as his own line of defence. that's how his df works n that's how he fights.
it was already shown kong gun could only destroy the armor. Nothing else.

Doffy all of gear 4th onslaught, plus everything law through at him (gamma knife injection shot etc.)
And 100 of citizens and viola. All this while holding back an entire country from escaping
He only took 5hits from G4.
If u want to count injection shot ok.
Cracker took 2 kong gun back to back.
6 more kong organ he took next n lastly there was canon ball.
not to forget it was 11hour fight with god knows how many times luffy throwing those punches on Cracker.
Another thing to note here was Boundman which took down Doffy was totally ineffective in Crackers case. Rather luffy has to go for Tankman.
Need I remind you those people include zoro fuji bar to cabbage chin jao sai a giant etc
Keep in mind he was doing all of this at the same time while fighting luffy/law
Luffy was infront of him when he ran out of G4.
Everyone here knows Doffy got Conqueror Haki which can ko fodders in a second or so.
Did he used that???
So in your words he isn't intelligent enough to go for Luffy(who was right infront of him)when he had the chance. Rather he kept himself busy with fodders n Rebecca.

Thanks.
Now stop spending time in OP fanfic section OK sweetie:win:
 

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So u are saying with that bounce thing luffy hasn't gone aerial???


So Doffy is basically running in this fight. I get it. Even if he gets awakening n stuff u r trying to say he wont fight with him in close combat.
In Luffy vs Doffy fight he didn't maintained any distance. So the hit n run sort of policy was never adopted by Doffy.yet u are saying it in such a way that Doffy fights in that way.


And Kong organ is also a G4 hit.
I already gave u the complete list What Doffy took n what Cracker took which was shown.


Crackers biscuits count as his own line of defence. that's how his df works n that's how he fights.
it was already shown kong gun could only destroy the armor. Nothing else.


He only took 5hits from G4.
If u want to count injection shot ok.
Cracker took 2 kong gun back to back.
6 more kong organ he took next n lastly there was canon ball.
not to forget it was 11hour fight with god knows how many times luffy throwing those punches on Cracker.
Another thing to note here was Boundman which took down Doffy was totally ineffective in Crackers case. Rather luffy has to go for Tankman.

Luffy was infront of him when he ran out of G4.
Everyone here knows Doffy got Conqueror Haki which can ko fodders in a second or so.
Did he used that???
So in your words he isn't intelligent enough to go for Luffy(who was right infront of him)when he had the chance. Rather he kept himself busy with fodders n Rebecca.


Thanks.
Now stop spending time in OP fanfic section OK sweetie:win:
Interesting view point, please expand.
 

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if jozu or marco arent getting one shotted casually by those admirals neither is luffy.
Lol luffys fruit ability is not comparable to the hardest substance known in OP and the mythical zone

Also please do not tell me you put luffy in the same category as Marco... He cannot replicate what marco accomplished at the war ( at least not that flawlessly hell that attack with the beams kizaru does exactly how is luffy fending off against that). I know he beat katakuri but please realize that katakuri injured himself because of his pride

If you noticed ever since after punk hazard all of luffys major fight/ wins have been situational at best

With doflamingo, he was partnered up with law who mind you fried up doflamingos organs before even facing off against gear 4th (also idk what injection shot does but it sounds like something along the line of a status effect)

With cracker if it wasn't from Nami there's no telling what happened. Crackers intelligence is considerably low when you take in the fact that nami was soaking the crackers for 11hours straight.

Katakuri as i mentioned above injured himself for his honor. And Luffy was running away a lot during the fight.


The point all of luffys wins/featd are tied up with situations. I don't think if you take current luffy and put him against what marco at the war, he wouldn't perform as well
 

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No not even close, and no sensible person would argue either. Oda made the gap in strength between a Emperor and an Admiral so much more clear that it’s not even funny.
Issho literally used Purple Tiger, direct hit sent luffy flying in base form but there was no one-shot. Even Akainu couldn’t one-shot Jimbei who’s weaker than Luffy. But Emperor Kaido on the other hand one-shotted G4 BounceMan luffy, something that no one has ever done before.

Only Emperors can one-shot Luffy, Admirals will have the fight of their lives.
 
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Why of course an Admiral is capable of oneshotting Luffy of the Monkey D., as the Admirals have displayed offensive capabilities far above what Kaido is capable of:

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No not even close, and no sensible person would argue either. Oda made the gap in strength between a Emperor and an Admiral so much more clear that it’s not even funny.
Issho literally used Purple Tiger, direct hit sent luffy flying in base form but there was no one-shot. Even Akainu couldn’t one-shot Jimbei who’s weaker than Luffy. But Emperor Kaido on the other hand one-shotted G4 BounceMan luffy, something that no one has ever done before.

Only Emperors can one-shot Luffy, Admirals will have the fight of their lives.
Purple Tiger is not one of Fujitora's attacks my friend, it is his epithet. I believe you are in fact referring to Raging Tiger.

And make no mistake, Fujitora was not using Haki unlike Kaido who was. Had Kaido not used Haki, his attack would've merely sent Luffy flying but wouldn't have actually harmed him.

So you are comparing a named attack + Haki from Kaido, to simply a named attack from a preoccupied Fujitora (he was also holding an entire country above his head in that moment.)

As for Admirals being able to one shot Luffy:

Why of course an Admiral is capable of oneshotting Luffy of the Monkey D., as the Admirals have displayed offensive capabilities far above what Kaido is capable of:

Aokiji Low Diffs Kaido  Explained Resize.jpg
And as for Akainu not being able to one shot Jinbe, I'm not sure what you are referring to:

Akainu one shots Jinbe.png

Because Dog of the Red does in fact one shot the Knight of the Sea, with a completely unnamed attack.

If you are referring to Jinbe blocking Akainu:

Akainu Attacks Tier List Explained REsize.jpg

The Admiral of the Fleet has attacks far, far stronger than the one that Jinbe blocked :)
 
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Why of course an Admiral is capable of oneshotting Luffy of the Monkey D., as the Admirals have displayed offensive capabilities far above what Kaido is capable of:

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Purple Tiger is not one of Fujitora's attacks my friend, it is his epithet. I believe you are in fact referring to Raging Tiger.

And make no mistake, Fujitora was not using Haki unlike Kaido who was. Had Kaido not used Haki, his attack would've merely sent Luffy flying but wouldn't have actually harmed him.

So you are comparing a named attack + Haki from Kaido, to simply a named attack from a preoccupied Fujitora (he was also holding an entire country above his head in that moment.)

As for Admirals being able to one shot Luffy:



And as for Akainu not being able to one shot Jinbe, I'm not sure what you are referring to:

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Because Dog of the Red does in fact one shot the Knight of the Sea, with a completely unnamed attack.

If you are referring to Jinbe blocking Akainu:

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The Admiral of the Fleet has attacks far, far stronger than the one that Jinbe blocked :)
I wouldn't say Jinbei blocked that, he blocked big mom's sword better than he blocked akainus punch. Akainu managed to burn him and run away... To have a hole put in him.

Jinbei took no damage just flew off the ship and came back for more when dealing with big mom


Jinbei was far more worried about akainu than any yonko
 
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I wouldn't say Jinbei blocked that, he blocked big mom's sword better than he blocked akainus punch. Akainu managed to burn him and run away... To have a hole put in him.
Jinbei took no damage just flew off the ship and came back for more when dealing with big mom


Jinbei was far more worried about akainu than any yonko


Additionally, Big Mother used a named attack against Jinbe, and yet the Knight of the Sea still gets up and pounds that phat booty

Akainu was simply trying to kill an unconscious 300 million beli Luffy, before Jinbe intercepted his attack.

But notice after intercepting Sakazuki of the SexGods attack, Jinbe indeed runs away. After intercepting LinLin of the obese Neanderthals attack, JinBae proceeds to rek her.

This demonstrates just how enormous the gap between the Yonko and the Fleet Admiral is.
 
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Fujitora Trolls Sabo.jpg

Additionally, let's take a moment to acknowledge how hard Fujitora trolled Sabo.

Sabo is panting hard, fussing at Fujitora for holding back, while Fujitora has not a scratch on him.

Fujitora would've low diffed him were he intending to do so.
 

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Simple Answer to this Question is "NO"

Kaido is far stronger than anything the Admirals have shown attack wise.

Kizaru doesnt 1-shot
Fujitora doesnt 1-shot

With that being said it should be fair to say that Green Bull doesn't 1-shot either. Could the Admirals do serious damage? Yes, of course. But none of them are currently able to 1-shot Luffy.
 
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