Can a perfect jinchuriki break/avoid Tsukuyomi?

[The Necromancer]

The Bijuu breaks it by Chakra, so your refute is invalid.

So the Bijuu breaks his own genjutsu, then breaks their genjutsu? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

How is it beneficial to have a Bijuu break 2 genjutsu before you can break 1? Kakashi could not break Tsukuyomi in the 3 days he was in it. A Bijuu isn't going to do any better.

 

[LORD MADARA SOLO GOD]

clearly stated genjutsu is useless against perfect jinchuriki

 

[lanakui8]

seriously though, bijuu and jinchuriki are not only

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but the bijuu experience the real world through the perception of their jinchuriki.

So thereʻs really no way that tsukuyomi works on a perfect jinchuriki, for one, the bijuu would perceive the tsukuyomi world through their jinchurikiʻs perception of reality and 2, the jinchuriki would tell the bijuu to snap them out of the genjutsu through their linked subconscious realm that opperates at a speed immeasurably faster than real time.

 

[Mellanoma]

clearly stated genjutsu is useless against perfect jinchuriki

why was Bee in Ifininte tsukyomi then? It's a genjutsu

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Comparing Itachi's Tsukiyomi to IT. Go home. Also Bee isn't even in IT, his sunglasses clearly blocked it.

How is that related to the how long Bee was under Sasuke's genjutsu?

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[Vapid]

Naruto wasn't a perfect jin when he said that

Moot point, since Naruto was talking to B.

He (Naruto), knowing that Tsukuyomi is instant and doesn't allow enough time for a perfect jin's biju to break it for them, warned B so he wouldn't get insta neg-diffed.

 

[V h o]

was not 3 seconds... it was instant....

Meh .

 

[Lightbringer]

No he wasn't but Bee was, and that's who he was warning. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

As for that last bit, you've got to be kidding me if you think Itachi wasn't aware of how PJ's could break genjutsu. He was in the Akatsuki and they had intel on Jins. They definitely bothered to get to know about the Jin with full control over his bijuu. In any case it seems like the Uchiha clan techs are written in the tablet, he could have read it there using his MS.​

Well for one, there were only 2 perfect jinchuriki known, Bee and Yagura, and we have no clue what happened to Yagura. So obtaining that intel was impossible.

If Obito knew about perfect jins being able to escape genjutsu, he would have warned Sasuke about it. It just shows that even he didn't know, which means there was no way for the rest of Akatsuki to know either.



The Uchiha tablet doesn't have every MS tech written. What would be the purpose of that? It only had the history of the Rikudou Sennin and the process in which IT can be activated only because Black Zetsu changed it.

 

[Gagster]

Wow you're being really stupid right now.

You where the one who brought up this whole " 1,2 seconds" thing.

this entire discussion is ridiculous in the first place.

PJ breaks, genjutsus, Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu, it's that simple.

And obviously IT doesn't work the same as other genjutsu, only an idiot would think there similar.

 

[The Necromancer]

Well for one, there were only 2 perfect jinchuriki known. Bee and Yagura and we have no clue what happened to Yagura. So obtaining that intel was impossible.

If Obito knew about perfect jins being able to escape genjutsu, he would have warned Sasuke about it. It just shows that even he didn't know, which means there was no way for the rest of Akatsuki to know either.



The Uchiha tablet doesn't have every MS tech written. What would be the purpose of that? It only had the history of the Rikudou Sennin and the process in which IT can be activated only because Black Zetsu changed it.

You realize Yagura was in a genjutsu for years, right?

 

[The Necromancer]

Well for one, there were only 2 perfect jinchuriki known. Bee and Yagura and we have no clue what happened to Yagura. So obtaining that intel was impossible.

If Obito knew about perfect jins being able to escape genjutsu, he would have warned Sasuke about it. It just shows that even he didn't know, which means there was no way for the rest of Akatsuki to know either.



The Uchiha tablet doesn't have every MS tech written. What would be the purpose of that? It only had the history of the Rikudou Sennin and the process in which IT can be activated only because Black Zetsu changed it.

You realize Yagura was in a genjutsu for years, right?

 

[Mellanoma]

You where the one who brought up this whole " 1,2 seconds" thing.

this entire discussion is ridiculous in the first place.

PJ breaks, genjutsus, Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu, it's that simple.

And obviously IT doesn't work the same as other genjutsu, only an idiot would think there similar.

why did Naruto need to be blocked from IT?

Why did Naruto avoid Tsukyomi?

Why was bee in Infinite Tsukyomi?

Why was Yagura in genjutsu?

 

[V h o]

You where the one who brought up this whole " 1,2 seconds" thing.

this entire discussion is ridiculous in the first place.

PJ breaks, genjutsus, Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu, it's that simple.

And obviously IT doesn't work the same as other genjutsu, only an idiot would think there similar.

The only real deciding factor is if the bijuu will realize the jin is under the genjutsu, which seems slightly difficult to prove imo. Being a PJ isn't a counter to genjutsu but a check.

 

[Benjamin King]

So the Bijuu breaks his own genjutsu, then breaks their genjutsu? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

How is it beneficial to have a Bijuu break 2 genjutsu before you can break 1? Kakashi could not break Tsukuyomi in the 3 days he was in it. A Bijuu isn't going to do any better.

2 Genjutsu? What 2 Genjutsu?

No, idiot. Kakashi doesn't have a partner, Bee does. All Hachibi needs to do is give Bee Chakra for 72 hours inside Tsukuyomi, and this 72 hours equals 1 second in the real world, meaning Bee will not be effected when Hachibi has already been breaking inside Tsukuyomi itself. They share the same experience and consciousness, which is why Genjutsu is useless against PJ.

Do you get the message, donkey?

 

[Styles]

seriously though, bijuu and jinchuriki are not only

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in which time goes by at a rate

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but the bijuu experience the real world through the perception of their jinchuriki.

So thereʻs really no way that tsukuyomi works on a perfect jinchuriki, for one, the bijuu would perceive the tsukuyomi world through their jinchurikiʻs perception of reality and 2, the jinchuriki would tell the bijuu to snap them out of the genjutsu through their linked subconscious realm that opperates at a speed immeasurably faster than real time.

So why did it take Bee a few seconds to break out of Sasuke's and Itachi's normal genjutsu's if he already knew Bee was in it?

 

[theacknowledgedone]

why did Naruto need to be blocked from IT?

Why did Naruto avoid Tsukyomi?

Why was bee in Infinite Tsukyomi?

Why was Yagura in genjutsu?

The derp bag is going to tell you sunglasses repelled it. XD

 

[Vapid]

You where the one who brought up this whole " 1,2 seconds" thing.

this entire discussion is ridiculous in the first place.

PJ breaks, genjutsus, Tsukiyomi is a genjutsu, it's that simple.

And obviously IT doesn't work the same as other genjutsu, only an idiot would think there similar.

You still haven't countered Kishi's contradiction of Tsukuyomi being instant. You're essentially saying that something instant can be countered, which is false and ridiculous.

 

[Sound]

Lol are people really using as evidence what a non-Perfect jin Naruto said about Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

He also said to Bee if you get hit by Amaterasu it's over but we know how that ended up with Sasuke.​

 

[Trúth]

Well for one, there were only 2 perfect jinchuriki known. Bee and Yagura and we have no clue what happened to Yagura. So obtaining that intel was impossible.

If Obito knew about perfect jins being able to escape genjuts, he would have warned Sasuke about it. It just shows that even he didn't know, which means there was no way for the rest of Akatsuki to know either.



The Uchiha tablet doesn't have every MS tech written. What would be the purpose of that? It only had the history of the Rikudou Sennin and the process in which IT can be activated only because Black Zetsu changed it.

Don't know why so many consider Yagura to be a perfect Jin, yet he was placed under genjutsu that wasn't I.T. Or Tsukuyomi. I'm certain that he was more like KCM Naruto.

Obtaining that intel was impossible yet Sasuke was able to easily find out where Bee was. Tobi could have questioned anyone on the fact. As far as telling Sasuke, I see no reason for him to have done that. He was testing Sasuke and did Sasuke even bother to listen to him? He just walked out assuming he had all the power.

I want to refute that, but I need to find the scans first.
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[lanakui8]

So why did it take Bee a few seconds to break out of Sasuke's and Itachi's normal genjutsu's if he already knew Bee was in it?

he took a few seconds to break out of sasukeʻs because he wanted to fool the kid into thinking heʻs down for the count, allowing him to blast sasukeʻs chest open immediately after. Plus, whoʻs to even say bee wasnʻt instantly snapped out, but decided to just play along until sasuke turned his back on him?

The hachibi didnʻt know bee was in itachiʻs normal genjutsu as itachiʻs genjutsu was a deception type and the hachibi perceives reality through beeʻs perception of reality therefore he was deceived as well. Itʻs only after he realized bee was in a genjutsu (when itachi told them/they figured it out) that he tried to snap bee out.