Byakugan useless?

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So being able to see, and turn off and on a person's chakra points so that they can no longer channel chakra or manipulate certain chakra points to have a desired effect on a person, like magnetizing a persons body so that all metal clings to them is a weak Doujutsu?


Yea.....ok.
read my post properly... i said COMPARED to the other dojutsus...

the known dojutsus until now are the rinnegan, sharingan and byakugan
(and actually another one but thats a filler so that doesnt count)
 

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My point was, that if you had chakra control. You are bound to hit the right spot sometime if you just shove your chakra the whole time.



I got nothing against Byakugan. the doujutsu ranks are Rin > Bya > Sharin

I even got a Undefeated Hyuga Bio and i mastered Jyuuken.
O_O that's cause you haven't challanged the right Sharingan bio those newb 1T can't beat a Byakugan but try a 3T sharingan user and see if you last ten minutes I bet I could beat you only using Genjutsu and Sharingan techs... :p and you can use all the Jyuuken you want.....
 

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To the kids on this thread that said the Byakugan is better than the sharingan. Do you actually believe that? In what world could it ever be better? It doesn't give any bonuses except for sight.

Byakugan - can see chakra, x-ray vision, 360 degree vision, extended vision that narrows the field of focus, can see through simple genjutsu.

Sharingan - can see chakra, can track movement, can predict movement, can copy jutsu and body movement exactly and gives the user understanding of the technique, can cast simple genjutsu.


This doesn't even include MS and EMS which make it far and away better than the Byakugan. The Byakugan is good for helping with the gentle fist style, but it doesn't give any benefits like tracking movement and predicting movement, making taijutsu for a sharingan user insanely easy. The byakugan is outclassed here. Just deal with it, Kishi made it this way.
 

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To the kids on this thread that said the Byakugan is better than the sharingan. Do you actually believe that? In what world could it ever be better? It doesn't give any bonuses except for sight.

Byakugan - can see chakra and chakra points, x-ray vision, 360 degree vision, extended vision that narrows the field of focus, can see through almost everything and simple genjutsu.

Sharingan - can see chakra, can track movement, can predict movement, can copy jutsu and body movement exactly and gives the user understanding of the technique, can cast simple genjutsu.


This doesn't even include MS and EMS which make it far and away better than the Byakugan. The Byakugan is good for helping with the gentle fist style, but it doesn't give any benefits like tracking movement and predicting movement, making taijutsu for a sharingan user insanely easy. The byakugan is outclassed here. Just deal with it, Kishi made it this way.
the byakugan has a clear superiority in sight, this is a fact. also can track movements because it can see the chakra flow. if you move your chakra will reveal it. (if I remember correctly it is said somewhere in the manga) About the genjutsu part, I think it's not just simple but almost every, or at least advanced genjutsu...

It's better than a normal 3t sharingan no one spoke about MS and EMS.
 

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To the kids on this thread that said the Byakugan is better than the sharingan. Do you actually believe that? In what world could it ever be better? It doesn't give any bonuses except for sight.

Byakugan - can see chakra, x-ray vision, 360 degree vision, extended vision that narrows the field of focus, can see through simple genjutsu.

Sharingan - can see chakra, can track movement, can predict movement, can copy jutsu and body movement exactly and gives the user understanding of the technique, can cast simple genjutsu.


This doesn't even include MS and EMS which make it far and away better than the Byakugan. The Byakugan is good for helping with the gentle fist style, but it doesn't give any benefits like tracking movement and predicting movement, making taijutsu for a sharingan user insanely easy. The byakugan is outclassed here. Just deal with it, Kishi made it this way.
That predicting you keep talking about is just faster reaction time. Also, TAIJUTSU AGAINST A GENTLE FIST USER? That's sending yourself to the slaughter. Also, what do you mean by tracking movement? If you mean, you can follow the other person's movements easier, you're terribly misinformed.

The 360 vision that comes with the Byakugan makes it so that you don't even have to turn your head to follow their movements.

Sure, MS beats Byakugan, that's a given.

The Byakugan can sense a disturbance in their chakra, and see that they're in a Genjutsu. Correct me if I'm wrong but, doesn't all Genjutsu disturb your chakra?

Also if you want to talk about reaction times too, watch the Neji vs. Kidomaru fight.
 
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Neji's mentioned before that he can read someone's intentions based on their movement. The slight movement of their finger or even the position of their eyes. This could just mean Neji knows Hinata's type of personality, but it could also mean Neji (and/or other advanced Byakugan users) are capable of reading chakra flow so well, they can read their opponent.

Comparing MS or EMS to Byakugan is like comparing the sun to a campfire... the comparison is between Sharingan and Byakugan - in which case the Byakugan has the severe advantage.
However, just like with anything, it also depends on how skilled the ninja are. Someone like Itachi could use the 360-vision to cast a strong genjutsu since by that point, the Hyuuga isn't basically a giant eye. But if you put the average sharingan-obtained Uchiha against the average Hyuuga, the Hyuuga is usually capable of obtaining the advantage.

The Byakugan's ability to see chakra flow and the Jyuuken's ability to stop chakra flow give them more than enough to stop an Uchiha member. Remember, the Uchiha were the police of Konoha, but the Hyuuga practically had their own society going within the society, even being called the "strongest clan" at one point.

That's not to say the Sharingan isn't better, it's just saying that in the right person, the Byakugan can be more efficient and more effective than the Sharingan.
 
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A ninja can usually only emit chakra from there hands or feet, but a hyuuga with byakugan can emit chakra from there entire body. But although a ninja could posibbly use palms if they had very good chakra control, but it wouldn't be as effect as a hyuuga palms since byakugan allows you to see chakra points.
i agree
 

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the byakugan has a clear superiority in sight, this is a fact. also can track movements because it can see the chakra flow. if you move your chakra will reveal it. (if I remember correctly it is said somewhere in the manga) About the genjutsu part, I think it's not just simple but almost every, or at least advanced genjutsu...

It's better than a normal 3t sharingan no one spoke about MS and EMS.
How is it better? It can see better sure but it doesn't give any bonuses like being able to copy jutsu or predict movement, making taijutsu easy for a sharingan user. If you were to put up a sharingan user and Byakugan user together in a taijutsu fight then the sharingan user would win every time because the sharingan tracks movement easier, and predicts where the opponent is going to be.

The Byakugan does not give these bonuses, all of it's bonuses are only related to sight. The sharingan can copy almost anything perfectly, can track movement, can predict movement as well, and can see chakra, as well as cast some genjutsu.

The Byakugan has telescopic vision, 360 degree vision, x-ray vision, and like all the dojutsu can see chakra. It can also see when people are in genjutsu because of the chakra. It doesn't make them immune to genjutsu, nor can they see through everything.


So stack up the bonuses and compare them and tell me which you would rather have. Sharingan is by far more useful in a fight. The Byakugan is good for reconnaissance but it doesn't help too much in a fight other than being able to see the person's chakra pathway which doesn't help if you are not faster than the person you are fighting.

And to the person saying I am wrong about the sharingan predicting movement, please get out of here. Go reread the chapter where Sasuke finally gets his 3 tomoe against Naruto at the valley of the end. They show you how he can now keep up with Naruto's speed because while he may not be as fast his eye shows him where Naruto is going to go, something the Byakugan doesn't do. Don't get mad at me for how kishi wrote the story, I just accept it.
 
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How is it better? It can see better sure but it doesn't give any bonuses like being able to copy jutsu or predict movement, making taijutsu easy for a sharingan user. If you were to put up a sharingan user and Byakugan user together in a taijutsu fight then the sharingan user would win every time because the sharingan tracks movement easier, and predicts where the opponent is going to be.

The Byakugan does not give these bonuses, all of it's bonuses are only related to sight. The sharingan can copy almost anything perfectly, can track movement, can predict movement as well, and can see chakra, as well as cast some genjutsu.

The Byakugan has telescopic vision, 360 degree vision, x-ray vision, and like all the dojutsu can see chakra. It can also see when people are in genjutsu because of the chakra. It doesn't make them immune to genjutsu, nor can they see through everything.


So stack up the bonuses and compare them and tell me which you would rather have. Sharingan is by far more useful in a fight. The Byakugan is good for reconnaissance but it doesn't help too much in a fight other than being able to see the person's chakra pathway which doesn't help if you are not faster than the person you are fighting.

And to the person saying I am wrong about the sharingan predicting movement, please get out of here. Go reread the chapter where Sasuke finally gets his 3 tomoe against Naruto at the valley of the end. They show you how he can now keep up with Naruto's speed because while he may not be as fast his eye shows him where Naruto is going to go, something the Byakugan doesn't do. Don't get mad at me for how kishi wrote the story, I just accept it.
you are so narrow minded, it doesn't even worth argue with you. you are just like the other mindless Uchiha fans...
 

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you are so narrow minded, it doesn't even worth argue with you. you are just like the other mindless Uchiha fans...
I am narrow minded? Me? you are an idiot and a fanboy because you are angry kishi made it this way. I have only said facts while you have said nothing other than saying that i'm an uchiha fanboy which isn't even true. I hate all the Uchiha except Itachi. So **** off

And how am I 'mindless' when clearly I stated facts and you didn't. So why don't you just leave this forum because you obviously can't read or are a retard.
 
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I am narrow minded? Me? you are an idiot and a fanboy because you are angry kishi made it this way. I have only said facts while you have said nothing other than saying that i'm an uchiha fanboy which isn't even true. I hate all the Uchiha except Itachi. So **** off

And how am I 'mindless' when clearly I stated facts and you didn't. So why don't you just leave this forum because you obviously can't read or are a retard.
yes you are. very narrow minded and you highly overrate your precious sharingan. copy jutsu? don't make me laugh what do you copy on a jiyuuken? nothing... predict movement? big stuff... genjutsu? pff... reread the manga. byakugan can see through almost any genjutsu.

+ you are childish giving negative rep for this. but don't worry you get it back + I reported you for this post too.
 
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