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Her techs are Kekkei Mora. Now, unless, Byakugan users can do that, you have a point. Madara's Susanoo versions are nothing special. Both Itachi and Sasuke had them as well. PS is just V4 with Chakra Stabilized. So, that's completely incorrect.

Hiashi's air-palm is superior because he's a superior Ninja has has way more experience. Itachi's fireball was greater, because he was older. Dude, Chakra amount changes everything. You think any user can do what she did? Come on!
No. Again, just stating it shows the Byakugan can be just as powerful as EMS in the hands of the right user. Like any tech tbh.
 

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No. Again, just stating it shows the Byakugan can be just as powerful as EMS in the hands of the right user. Like any tech tbh.
No, some powers are honestly just weaker than others. The only way the Hyuga could capitalize on their Kekkei Genkai was through the Gentle Fist which is an incredibly dangerous art to use due to it's need for close proximity. The palm rotation itself can be countered of the opponent has more chakra and stays at a good range away from the Byakugan user.

Even though the Sharingan cannot see your tenketsu or up to 360 degrees, it's still a formidable Kekkei Genkai if not the scariest. The normal Sharingan itself grants Genjutsu, copying of abilities, the ability to break genjutsu, reading movements, seeing things on molecular levels, and Izanagi.

The standard Sharingan is underrated and has always been superior to the Byakugan when it comes to intense, real, up-close combat.
 

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No, some powers are honestly just weaker than others. The only way the Hyuga could capitalize on their Kekkei Genkai was through the Gentle Fist which is an incredibly dangerous art to use due to it's need for close proximity.
No, pal. Gentle Fist techs ARE Byakugan abilities, just as Blaze Release techs are Mangekyo Sharingan abilities.
The palm rotation itself can be countered of the opponent has more chakra and stays at a good range away from the Byakugan user.
Don't see how either of those would counter Rotation.

Even though the Sharingan cannot see your tenketsu or up to 360 degrees, it's still a formidable Kekkei Genkai if not the scariest. The normal Sharingan itself grants Genjutsu, copying of abilities, the ability to break genjutsu, reading movements, seeing things on molecular levels, and Izanagi.
Byakugan provides much more than what the 3T has, only difference is that the Byakugan user needs to train for those abilities. Destroying chakra, blowing away physical attacks and chakra, shutting down chakra network, destroying organs, keeping up with high speed, imploding living beings, etc.

The standard Sharingan is underrated and has always been superior to the Byakugan when it comes to intense, real, up-close combat.
Byakugan is literally tailored for CQC, so I have no idea why you'd claim Sharingan is the superior alternative.
 

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No, pal. Gentle Fist techs ARE Byakugan abilities, just as Blaze Release techs are Mangekyo Sharingan abilities.


Don't see how either of those would counter Rotation.



Byakugan provides much more than what the 3T has, only difference is that the Byakugan user needs to train for those abilities. Destroying chakra, blowing away physical attacks and chakra, shutting down chakra network, destroying organs, keeping up with high speed, imploding living beings, etc.



Byakugan is literally tailored for CQC, so I have no idea why you'd claim Sharingan is the superior alternative.


The Gentle Fist does not come pre-packaged with the Byakugan. The Gentle Fist was made in order to capitalize on the Byakugan's sheer uselessness. The Byakugan wasn't really useful for the Hyuga until the Gentle Fist I would venture to argue. Kaguya, the person with the strongest pair of Byakugan on the planet barely even used it offensively due to her lack of the Gentle Fist.

The reality is, the Gentle Fist is an invention, an add on of sorts to the Byakugan by the user. The Sharingan's abilities are all pre-packaged. I get that you like the Byakugan, but you have to learn that the Gentle Fist and the Byakugan are two separate entities but work together as one.

Even if you're born with the Byakugan, you can't use the Gentle Fist automatically. It has never been implied that the two abilities are tied together besides the fact that the user can blend them together. Anyone can use the Gentle Fist, but whether they can use it to it's fullest extent depends on whether they have the Byakugan. People can't learn how to cast Genjutsu through their eyes because it solely depends on having a Sharingan.

There's a difference
 

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The Gentle Fist does not come pre-packaged with the Byakugan.
Yes it does, all Gentle Fist techs are an application the Hyuga's ability to use all 361 Tenketsu, an ability stemming from the Byakugan, just as the Amaterasu Arrow is an application of the Blaze Style, an ability stemming from the Mangekyo Sharingan.

Kaguya, the person with the strongest pair of Byakugan on the planet barely even used it offensively due to her lack of the Gentle Fist.
Vacuum Attack is a Gentle Fist technique, its basically a more powerful Air Palm.
The reality is, the Gentle Fist is an invention, an add on of sorts to the Byakugan by the user.
I know it is, it's still a Bloodline limit. Assuming Hashirama was the first person since Kaguya to get Wood Style, he too would have had to invent the Wood Release techniques he'd use on his own, that doesn't make them any less of Bloodline Limit abilities. Same goes for Kimimaro. He was the sole Bone user in his clan, so naturally this means all the bone-based techniques were invented by him. Same for Byakugan. Just because the Gentle Fist was invented that doesn't make it any less of a Byakugan ability.

The Sharingan's abilities are all pre-packaged. I get that you like the Byakugan, but you have to learn that the Gentle Fist and the Byakugan are two separate entities but work together as one.
Again, no, the Gentle Fist uses the Byakugan's ability to utilize all 361 Tenketsu.

Even if you're born with the Byakugan, you can't use the Gentle Fist automatically.
Even if you're born with Wood Release, you can't use the Wooden Dragon automatically.

Like, no duh, pal!! Of course the Gentle Fist needs training! Just because something is a Kekka Genkai that doesn't mean its available from birth!

It has never been implied that the two abilities are tied together besides the fact that the user can blend them together.
Air Palm, Vacuum Attack, Rotation, and One Blow Body are all classified as Kekkai Genkai.

Anyone can use the Gentle Fist
No, pal. Plain and simple.
 

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The Gentle Fist does not come pre-packaged with the Byakugan. The Gentle Fist was made in order to capitalize on the Byakugan's sheer uselessness. The Byakugan wasn't really useful for the Hyuga until the Gentle Fist I would venture to argue. Kaguya, the person with the strongest pair of Byakugan on the planet barely even used it offensively due to her lack of the Gentle Fist.

The reality is, the Gentle Fist is an invention, an add on of sorts to the Byakugan by the user. The Sharingan's abilities are all pre-packaged. I get that you like the Byakugan, but you have to learn that the Gentle Fist and the Byakugan are two separate entities but work together as one.

Even if you're born with the Byakugan, you can't use the Gentle Fist automatically. It has never been implied that the two abilities are tied together besides the fact that the user can blend them together. Anyone can use the Gentle Fist, but whether they can use it to it's fullest extent depends on whether they have the Byakugan. People can't learn how to cast Genjutsu through their eyes because it solely depends on having a Sharingan.

There's a difference
Gentlefist is not an ordinary technique that can be taught by anyone, Hyuga would be nothing special if that were to be the case. It is a Kekkai Genkia technique that can only be perfected from the Hyuga hence they are considered to be the strongest taijutsu clan of the leaf For Reasons.

The hyuga abilities in conjuntion with the use of a byakugan can enhances the havoc and control of a Gentle Fist practitioner which can impose upon oppponent chakra network
 
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