Byakugan Grants Abilities

[TemplarKnight]

Nagato couldn't use Limbo doesn't mean it's not a Rinnegan ability


Not every MS user has Susanoo but it's still a Sharingan ability



Gentle Fist comes with Byakugan but only Hyuga can use it

But you just said Byakugan grants GF. Does it or does it not?

 

[jamarcusp17]

Notice how they're ignoring the fact that Ao can't use GF.

Why can't he? Does it say that he can't? And SenseiSama brought up a good point if he isn't able to. All dojutsu abilities aren't available to the user who has a transplanted dojutsu.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Ao didnt even get a single fight scene.

 

[Holy God]

Nagato couldn't use Limbo doesn't mean it's not a Rinnegan ability


Not every MS user has Susanoo but it's still a Sharingan ability



Gentle Fist comes with Byakugan but only Hyuga can use it

Limbo and Susano'o require the eye though (disregarding the brain chakra stuff). Gentle Fist only requires you know the location of the pressure point, which can be done through luck, practice, or even by using the Rinnegan.

 

[TemplarKnight]

Why can't he? Does it say that he can't? And SenseiSama brought up a good point if he isn't able to. All dojutsu abilities aren't available to the user who has a transplanted dojutsu.

Wrong. The only case in which we've seen a transplant have unavailable abilities is concerning the MS in a non-Uchiha. You have no evidence that the same applies to the Byakugan. If it grants Jyuuken immediately, then why not for Ao?

 

[jamarcusp17]

Wrong. The only case in which we've seen a transplant have unavailable abilities is concerning the MS in a non-Uchiha. You have no evidence that the same applies to the Byakugan. If it grants Jyuuken immediately, then why not for Ao?

Dude, you clearly skipped a few words. Show me where it says that he CANNOT use it.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Wrong. The only case in which we've seen a transplant have unavailable abilities is concerning the MS in a non-Uchiha. You have no evidence that the same applies to the Byakugan. If it grants Jyuuken immediately, then why not for Ao?

Ao never fought to begin with. Stop using a character who never fought to say they dont have a fighting movie. Wtf kind of logic is this?

 

[SenseiSama]

But you just said Byakugan grants GF. Does it or does it not?

It does and doesn't at the same time it's complicated, a Hyuga can't have one without the other, and reason non-Hyuga can't use GF is because they have unique chakra control that no one else does, it's like how only Uchiha with unique chakra can use Susanoo

 

[TemplarKnight]

Ao never fought to begin with. Stop using a character who never fought to say they dont have a fighting movie. Wtf kind of logic is this?

No feats given means he can't use it.

If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.

 

[jamarcusp17]

No feats given means he can't use it.

If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.

Lol okay. Because that logic is so solid, I'll take it.

 

[TemplarKnight]

It does and doesn't at the same time it's complicated, a Hyuga can't have one without the other, and reason non-Hyuga can't use GF is because they have unique chakra control that no one else does, it's like how only Uchiha with unique chakra can use Susanoo

Neither of those things has ever been said.

If you're saying that they automatically have GF because of the eye then say that. Be specific. You're clearly meaning that through the use of their chakra control KKG and Byakugan they can use GF.

 

[SenseiSama]

No feats given means he can't use it.

If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.

Lol I agree Ao can't use it but you used a bad argument, it's like saying Sasuke doesn't have all 6 paths because he only used 3 of them.

 

[Made in Heaven]

No feats given means he can't use it.

If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.

By that same logic Madara's Sharingsn has no precognition cause we never saw it.

By thag same logic, Hinata's Byakugan doesnt have a blind spot because we never saw it.

By that logic, Madara cant use all Rennigan powers because we never saw it.

 

[TemplarKnight]

By that same logic Madara's Sharingsn has no precognition cause we never saw it.

By thag same logic, Hinata's Byakugan doesnt have a blind spot because we never saw it.

By that logic, Madara cant use all Rennigan powers because we never saw it.

Manga states that the Sharingan has precognition, your argument negged.

Manga states that Byakugans have blindspots, argument negged.

Manga states Rinnegan users are privy to all Rinnegan abilities, argument negged.

Shoulda thought that one through lol

 

[SenseiSama]

Neither of those things has ever been said.

If you're saying that they automatically have GF because of the eye then say that. Be specific. You're clearly meaning that through the use of their chakra control KKG and Byakugan they can use GF.

They weren't said because they were proven, Ao wasn't able to use GF, Gai and Lee both never had the ability to use it either despite their mastery in taijutsu.

You call their chakra control KKG which is what I'm saying, but the KKG isn't separate, it comes with the dojutsu. Even Boruto who doesn't have Byakugan has what looks like Tenseigan which is just a progression of Byakugan, he showed ability to use GF in the chuunin exams.

 

[TemplarKnight]

They weren't said because they were proven, Ao wasn't able to use GF, Gai and Lee both never had the ability to use it either despite their mastery in taijutsu.

You call their chakra control KKG which is what I'm saying, but the KKG isn't separate, it comes with the dojutsu. Even Boruto who doesn't have Byakugan has what looks like Tenseigan which is just a progression of Byakugan, he showed ability to use GF in the chuunin exams.

They are two separate KKG being used at once.

Boruto probably just used GF because he learned it from someone, aka his mother. You really think he has any real GF competency? And what's the point of using GF if you can't expel chakra from the limbs which is how it works.

 

[Ababeel]

Ao didnt even get a single fight scene.

That what I was thinking off. :lmao

I guess the Sharingan does not grant you anything either because Izuna did not show anything. Lol

 

[WalksInShadows]

Notice how they're ignoring the fact that Ao can't use GF.

and there's folks actually saying "GF is a KKG, but only Hyuga can use it". Talk about desperate XD

 

[TemplarKnight]

That what I was thinking off. :lmao

I guess the Sharingan does not grant you anything either because Izuna did not show anything. Lol

Well I don't know, when the manga tells you that something grants abilities you don't need feats. However, the manga never said that having a Byakugan grants Jyuuken.

Due to Ao's lack of showing Jyuuken, and since the manga was never clear on whether it's learned or automatically known since Maito Guy said that it was passed down and taught in the generations but you don't need to learn something you automatically know right?

And therein lies the fact that his argument is pointless due to the fact that it was never given a definite rule, just speculation on both parts.

 

[Styles]

the Hyuga have two KKG the byakugan and the gentle fist

the gentle fist part is confusing since there is the Taijutsu the gentle fist which is learnt while the KKG gentle fist that enables a Hyuga to expel chakra from any point of their body, have good chakra control, and manipulate a users chakra from sealing it to boosting it and even destroying it is a gentical thing entirely.

The two KKG the gentle fist and the byakugan complete each other as they are accurately able to pinpoint, etc... their KKG fighting style due to the aide of the byakugan


What I assume is that the GF KKG is connected to the byakugan as the Susanoo KKG is connected to the Sharingan

the users needs to unlock a state to use it but afterwards could use it without the said eyes (as seen with Madara's Susanoo and the Hyuga using GF sometimes without having the byakugan active)


Also we saw the taijutsu of the byakugan being used via Hanabi against Boruto were the martial style is present but the chakra KKG is not used

Gentle fist is learned. It's only learned by Hyuga members. Momo Kinshiki etc don't have gentle fist and they're Byakugan user's.

It gave them the ability to invent Juken and master the art of close combat, not even an Uchiha can afford to face a Byakugan user in CQC :lol

No it didn't. All Byakugan did was help them use it perfectly due to seeing chakra network. Byakugan didn't give them the ability to use it.