Byakugan Grants Abilities

[Made in Heaven]

Gentle Fist is not learned, Himawari proves this. Other Gentle Fist abilities like Rotation and Air Palm are learned. That doesnt mean it isnt a KKG

 

[jamarcusp17]

Well I don't know, when the manga tells you that something grants abilities you don't need feats. However, the manga never said that having a Byakugan grants Jyuuken.

Due to Ao's lack of showing Jyuuken, and since the manga was never clear on whether it's learned or automatically known since Maito Guy said that it was passed down and taught in the generations but you don't need to learn something you automatically know right?

And therein lies the fact that his argument is pointless due to the fact that it was never given a definite rule, just speculation on both parts.

So, then, if it is something that is learned, how did Himawari use it? She couldn't have been taught to use it if she didn't have the Byakugan. And saying she did is just speculation on your part.

But, what Guy said is that the taijutsu is passed down from generation to generation. It can be interpreted that the style of attacking the inner coil system is what's passed down.

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato couldn't use Limbo doesn't mean it's not a Rinnegan ability


Not every MS user has Susanoo but it's still a Sharingan ability



Gentle Fist comes with Byakugan but only Hyuga can use it

Stop using trash logic. Rinnegan grants user's different signature abilities. Byakugan does not. Double MS=Susanoo. If you have a dual MS you have Susanoo. That's a Manga and databook fact. Also irrelevant.

Lmao who made anything up?!! You are very aggravating and annoying!! Making something up would be saying that Neji learned to fly as he shielded Hinata from the spikes.

What I said was a deduced conclusion from the facts given. Did Himawari have Gentle Fist prior to awakening the Byakugan? After she awakened the Byakugan, did she not insert chakra into Naruto's tenketsu, rendering him unconscious?

You are really annoying me now because all you want to do is argue shit.

Irrelevant. She wasn't a fighting type ninja so there's no reason she'd have Gentle Fist before. The rest was addressed by Holy God. Of course, your reply was lackluster. Her using Gentle Fist and Byakugan at the same time isn't indicative of it awakening her Gentle Fist as you need Byakugan to target the Tenketsu in the first place.

I'm annoying because I argue against your fanfiction? :lol Fanboys in a nutshell.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Stop using trash logic. Rinnegan grants user's different signature abilities. Byakugan does not. Double MS=Susanoo. If you have a dual MS you have Susanoo. That's a Manga and databook fact. Also irrelevant.



Irrelevant. She wasn't a fighting type ninja so there's no reason she'd have Gentle Fist before. The rest was addressed by Holy God. Of course, your reply was lackluster. Her using Gentle Fist and Byakugan at the same time isn't indicative of it awakening her Gentle Fist as you need Byakugan to target the Tenketsu in the first place.

I'm annoying because I argue against your fanfiction? :lol Fanboys in a nutshell.

Okay! Right there! You said it in the bold! She did not have Gentle Fist before. And please don't ignore this question I'm about to ask like you always seem to do: did Himawari insert her chakra into Naruto's tenketsu after awakening the Byakugan, even without prior training in the Gentle Fist, as you just stated?

 

[Ababeel]

Well I don't know, when the manga tells you that something grants abilities you don't need feats. However, the manga never said that having a Byakugan grants Jyuuken.

Due to Ao's lack of showing Jyuuken, and since the manga was never clear on whether it's learned or automatically known since Maito Guy said that it was passed down and taught in the generations but you don't need to learn something you automatically know right?

And therein lies the fact that his argument is pointless due to the fact that it was never given a definite rule, just speculation on both parts.

Again, Ao is an irrelevant character that did NOT get any fight to begin with. What do you know about what he has and what he doesn't? Nothing. So no point of bringing him up. There are more fodder uchiha that got nothing than just simply Ao (1 characer). That does not mean anything.

- Well, learning thing you automatically know will differ in this manga. Because you might know the jutsu (or get it autmatically?), but you are still not good enough at using it. For example, Sasuke got the Susanoo from his MS, but that did not mean he was able to use PS right off the pat. Another example, Kakashi has Kamui, but his usage of that jutsu got significetely better as time went on. The same thing could be said here. Perhaps the Hyuuga have said jutsu automatically, but they have to learn how to use it in a sufficient way.

And therein lies the fact that his argument is pointless due to the fact that it was never given a definite rule, just speculation on both parts.

Frankly, I don't even know what's the point of this argument/topic anyway. Even if it's a thing to be learned, and even if a random guy could learn it, it's not like Kishi/authors will create a none-Hyuuga character and give him this fighting-style. =D

It will always be linked to the Hyuga regardless.

 

[KidGamer65]

Okay! Right there! You said it in the bold! She did not have Gentle Fist before. And please don't ignore this question I'm about to ask like you always seem to do: did Himawari insert her chakra into Naruto's tenketsu after awakening the Byakugan, even without prior training in the Gentle Fist, as you just stated?

If you'd use your brain you'd know that her not having it before, or rather displaying it before, doesn't mean that the Byakugan itself is what granted her said ability. I ignore your questions because they are stupid and irrelevant to the point at hand. Himawari went rage mode and awakened Byakugan and used Gentle Fist to put Naruto down.

-I don't want to hear the pathetic "she didn't train, so byakugan gave it to her" excuse when it's been stated you need to train for Byakugan as well. Rage is what woke up those dormant abilities and lack of training is why she can't use them at will.

-I don't want to hear the nonsense "Byakugan gave it to her cause she used it with Byakugan for the first time" when there is no other way to block Tenketsu so naturally it'd be used w/ Byakugan.

Byakugan has never been shown, stated or implied to give abilities. That's a fact.

Though you'll probably just cry about me "ignoring" your post instead of addressing what matters so I don't expect much from your next reply.

 

[jamarcusp17]

If you'd use your brain you'd know that her not having it before, or rather displaying it before, doesn't mean that the Byakugan itself is what granted her said ability. I ignore your questions because they are stupid and irrelevant to the point at hand. Himawari went rage mode and awakened Byakugan and used Gentle Fist to put Naruto down.

-I don't want to hear the pathetic "she didn't train, so byakugan gave it to her" excuse when it's been stated you need to train for Byakugan as well. Rage is what woke up those dormant abilities and lack of training is why she can't use them at will.

-I don't want to hear the nonsense "Byakugan gave it to her cause she used it with Byakugan for the first time" when there is no other way to block Tenketsu so naturally it'd be used w/ Byakugan.

Byakugan has never been shown, stated or implied to give abilities. That's a fact.

Though you'll probably just cry about me "ignoring" your post instead of addressing what matters so I don't expect much from your next reply.

Lol I don't think you realize that your points help to prove mine. Let me give you an example that you'll understand, because I know for a FACT that you're in love with the Uchiha:

Sasuke has never used the clan's most reknown jutsu and was never taught how to. One day, Sasuke awakens the Sharingan, and out of nowhere, he is able to use that jutsu. Couldn't it be said that awakening the Sharingan allowed Sasuke to use that jutsu, even though he never knew anything about it?

I doubt you'll understand that, too. But fyi, it seems you can't use your own points to aid your argument. They always tend to be in favor of the person you're arguing with. :dunno:

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol I don't think you realize that your points help to prove mine. Let me give you an example that you'll understand, because I know for a FACT that you're in love with the Uchiha: Sasuke has never used the clan's most reknown jutsu and was never taught how to. One day, Sasuke awakens the Sharingan, and out of nowhere, he is able to use that jutsu. Couldn't it be said that awakening the Sharingan allowed Sasuke to use that jutsu, even though he never knew anything about it? I doubt you'll understand that, too. But fyi, it seems you can't use your own points to aid your argument. They always tend to be in favor of the person you're arguing with. :dunno:

The Sharingan is stated to grant those abilities and shown to do so on multiple occasions. That is NOT true for the Byakugan no matter how much you cry and moan about your little fan war vendetta.

Just when I think posters on this site can't get any more inane, stupid and out of touch with reality. :lol

 

[jamarcusp17]

The Sharingan is stated to grant those abilities and shown to do so on multiple occasions. That is NOT true for the Byakugan no matter how much you cry and moan about your little fan war vendetta.

Just when I think posters on this site can't get any more inane, stupid and out of touch with reality. :lol

We're just insulting each other now. But you're clearly not good at comprehending. I did not give any certain ability, so how did you automatically assume that the Sharingan granted the user that ability? If you saw my word "example," you'd know that I was speaking hypothetically.

But since you did not get that, imagine that I said the new ability Sasuke used after awakening the Sharingan is the Fireball Jutsu. It is very tiring dealing with you and having to explain things.

 

[TemplarKnight]

We're just insulting each other now. But you're clearly not good at comprehending. I did not give any certain ability, so how did you automatically assume that the Sharingan granted the user that ability? If you saw my word "example," you'd know that I was speaking hypothetically.

But since you did not get that, imagine that I said the new ability Sasuke used after awakening the Sharingan is the Fireball Jutsu. It is very tiring dealing with you and having to explain things.

The Byakugan was never stated to grant immediate knowledge of the Gentle Fist.

Ao has never shown any Jyuuken feats,

 

[DrProof]

Really not that complicated to understand.

Gentle Fist is learned, the Byakugan cannot grant a fighting style do you people not understand how rhetorical that sounds?

"Brb I got a new eye, now I know how to use a new fighting style"

Legit that's dumb af.

The Byakugan furthers the Gentle Fist's usefulness. Nothing more.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Byakugan = 360 scope long range vision ability to see chakra network. And that's it. Byakugan doesn't give a fighting style.

True.
Himawari's case was hers alone. Byakugan doesnt grant Jyuuken. Jyuuken is being learned by those with the innate ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu of their body. In Himawari's case, I bet she didnt even know she did Jyuuken. The Byakugan is exploited to advance the use of Jyuuken. They are their own KG, Jyuuken and Byakugan, and by Jyuuken I meant the expelling of chakra to perform Gentle Fist techs.

Just because Himawari had that event, everyone can conclude Byakugan grants Jyuuken. Himawari is a Hyuuga. Naturally she might have the default Hyuuga abilities.

Really not that complicated to understand.

Gentle Fist is learned, the Byakugan cannot grant a fighting style do you people not understand how rhetorical that sounds?

"Brb I got a new eye, now I know how to use a new fighting style"

Legit that's dumb af.

The Byakugan furthers the Gentle Fist's usefulness. Nothing more.

Thank you. A true Hyuuga fan should know this. unless shown otherwise.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Himawari acted out of impulse and randomly did a Gentle fist attack. That shows that she has the KG whatsoever. She must then train to hone her talent forGentle fist and exploit her Byakugan.

Hyuuga exclusives: Byakugan, Expelling of Chakra and Jyuuken

 

[To Whatever]

GF isnt inherited.

 

[Styles]

True.
Himawari's case was hers alone. Byakugan doesnt grant Jyuuken. Jyuuken is being learned by those with the innate ability to expel chakra from every tenketsu of their body. In Himawari's case, I bet she didnt even know she did Jyuuken. The Byakugan is exploited to advance the use of Jyuuken. They are their own KG, Jyuuken and Byakugan, and by Jyuuken I meant the expelling of chakra to perform Gentle Fist techs.

Just because Himawari had that event, everyone can conclude Byakugan grants Jyuuken. Himawari is a Hyuuga. Naturally she might have the default Hyuuga abilities.




Thank you. A true Hyuuga fan should know this. unless shown otherwise.

Kinda sad that you're the only logical Hyuga fan that knows this. Idk if the other's are legit or just trolling but i think you gotta teach em what a Hyuga fan means lol.

 

[Hakke]

Limbo and Susano'o require the eye though (disregarding the brain chakra stuff). Gentle Fist only requires you know the location of the pressure point, which can be done through luck, practice, or even by using the Rinnegan.

WTF? Hell no. the Gentle Fist is Hiden. it gives the user the ability to inject Chakra into the Chakra network which causes internal damage. and it gives the user the ability to inject Chakra into Chakra, which would destroy anything made of Chakra.

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"things that are made of Chakra... will be destroyed by simply putting Chakra into it"

the Gentle Fist is not granted by having the Byakugan, that's why the Otsutsukis like Momo, Kinshiki and Toneri and characters like Ao don't possess it. it is only limited to those with a Hyuga bloodline.

 

[davidou]

No feats given means he can't use it.

If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.

Claiming that the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence is really stupid.
The fact that some Byakugan users never used that technique doesn' t prove that they can' t.
Byakugan haters are as bad as Uchiha fans.

Can you use gentle fist without byakugan?No you can' t, so byakugan grants the ability to use gentle fist.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Kinda sad that you're the only logical Hyuga fan that knows this. Idk if the other's are legit or just trolling but i think you gotta teach em what a Hyuga fan means lol.

yeah it is sad sometimes I saw some of tem, maybe they are just trolling or wanking.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Really not that complicated to understand.

Gentle Fist is learned, the Byakugan cannot grant a fighting style do you people not understand how rhetorical that sounds?

"Brb I got a new eye, now I know how to use a new fighting style"

Legit that's dumb af.

The Byakugan furthers the Gentle Fist's usefulness. Nothing more.

What I'm saying is that unlocking the Byakugan unlocks the user's ability to use the abilities of the Byakugan, one being the ability to expel chakra from tenketsu.

I don't understand. If it was any other dojutsu and jutsu, y'all would accept it as not only fact, but also the only truth. Y'all treat this stuff likes it's religion. Calm down.

 

[KidGamer65]

We're just insulting each other now. But you're clearly not good at comprehending. I did not give any certain ability, so how did you automatically assume that the Sharingan granted the user that ability? If you saw my word "example," you'd know that I was speaking hypothetically.

But since you did not get that, imagine that I said the new ability Sasuke used after awakening the Sharingan is the Fireball Jutsu. It is very tiring dealing with you and having to explain things.

It doesn't matter what ability you gave nor does it matter if you are speaking in hypotheticals or not. All Sharingan related abilities that Sasuke would be able to showcase immediately after awakening it. I'm going to assume you didn't say the bold just because of how inane an example that is along with the fact this sentence doesn't help your already garbage argument in any way, shape or form.

The Byakugan does not do what you are saying it does. That's why you do not have a statement or a showing or explanation of any kind. The Byakugan itself has barely been implied to require Byakugan to simply channel chakra (not target Tenketsu obviously) and this moron is actually sitting here arguing like he's spitting facts. Meanwhile I have:

-Manga saying you need to train to use these 2 abilities proficiently. Thus nothing is granted.
-Momoshiki, Kinshiki don't use the Gentle Fist. Neither does Ao, but people will make the excuse that he can because he hasn't shown any feats.



What's tiring is your inability to comprehend anything that contradicts your nonsense fantasies. That's why you are masking your ignorance and stupidity with the act of you being the one who is being misunderstood. You post your opinion while ignoring what people post towards you as if anyone gives a damn about your opinion without an argument behind it.