Byakugan Grants Abilities
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jamarcusp17
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Why can't he? Does it say that he can't? And SenseiSama brought up a good point if he isn't able to. All dojutsu abilities aren't available to the user who has a transplanted dojutsu.
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Limbo and Susano'o require the eye though (disregarding the brain chakra stuff). Gentle Fist only requires you know the location of the pressure point, which can be done through luck, practice, or even by using the Rinnegan.
TemplarKnight
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Wrong. The only case in which we've seen a transplant have unavailable abilities is concerning the MS in a non-Uchiha. You have no evidence that the same applies to the Byakugan. If it grants Jyuuken immediately, then why not for Ao?
jamarcusp17
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Dude, you clearly skipped a few words. Show me where it says that he CANNOT use it.
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Ao never fought to begin with. Stop using a character who never fought to say they dont have a fighting movie. Wtf kind of logic is this?
SenseiSama
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It does and doesn't at the same time it's complicated, a Hyuga can't have one without the other, and reason non-Hyuga can't use GF is because they have unique chakra control that no one else does, it's like how only Uchiha with unique chakra can use Susanoo
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TemplarKnight
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No feats given means he can't use it.
If he hasn't been shown to use it, it means he can't use it.
jamarcusp17
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TemplarKnight
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Neither of those things has ever been said.
If you're saying that they automatically have GF because of the eye then say that. Be specific. You're clearly meaning that through the use of their chakra control KKG and Byakugan they can use GF.
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Lol I agree Ao can't use it but you used a bad argument, it's like saying Sasuke doesn't have all 6 paths because he only used 3 of them.
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By that same logic Madara's Sharingsn has no precognition cause we never saw it.
By thag same logic, Hinata's Byakugan doesnt have a blind spot because we never saw it.
By that logic, Madara cant use all Rennigan powers because we never saw it.
TemplarKnight
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Manga states that the Sharingan has precognition, your argument negged.
Manga states that Byakugans have blindspots, argument negged.
Manga states Rinnegan users are privy to all Rinnegan abilities, argument negged.
Shoulda thought that one through lol
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They weren't said because they were proven, Ao wasn't able to use GF, Gai and Lee both never had the ability to use it either despite their mastery in taijutsu.
You call their chakra control KKG which is what I'm saying, but the KKG isn't separate, it comes with the dojutsu. Even Boruto who doesn't have Byakugan has what looks like Tenseigan which is just a progression of Byakugan, he showed ability to use GF in the chuunin exams.
TemplarKnight
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They are two separate KKG being used at once.
Boruto probably just used GF because he learned it from someone, aka his mother. You really think he has any real GF competency? And what's the point of using GF if you can't expel chakra from the limbs which is how it works.
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and there's folks actually saying "GF is a KKG, but only Hyuga can use it". Talk about desperate XD
TemplarKnight
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Well I don't know, when the manga tells you that something grants abilities you don't need feats. However, the manga never said that having a Byakugan grants Jyuuken.
Due to Ao's lack of showing Jyuuken, and since the manga was never clear on whether it's learned or automatically known since Maito Guy said that it was passed down and taught in the generations but you don't need to learn something you automatically know right?
And therein lies the fact that his argument is pointless due to the fact that it was never given a definite rule, just speculation on both parts.
Gentle fist is learned. It's only learned by Hyuga members. Momo Kinshiki etc don't have gentle fist and they're Byakugan user's.
No it didn't. All Byakugan did was help them use it perfectly due to seeing chakra network. Byakugan didn't give them the ability to use it.