Better brother,Itachi or Madara

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Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

danzo already explained to itachi. sasuke will grow up to hate the leaf and he will be killed or they will kill him now to prevent it (i dont remember which one it was). therefor had the civil war started sasuke would hate the leaf and would die at some point in time.

the massacre was to save sasuke. massacre made sasuke hate itachi and not the village

Are you serious. The whole damn village hated Itachi after the massacre! He was in the bingo book for crying out loud!
 

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again if you think a good brother is someone who lets there brother fight in a losing war and doesnt protect them? then by all means go fight fights with your siblings instead of trying to prevent them from fighting which would've saved there life. had madara even attempted to stop his brothers then i wouldve had a different opinion

if you think being a brother means allowing your other brothers to be in danger(which they all died) instead of keeping them out of danger then . . . .


Again, I was raised in a family of cousins and brothers. I perfectly understand Madara and Izuna. Ok. So who ever wants to wank on Itachi.. needs to hit real life soon.. or otherwise humanity is losing it.

My older brothers and cousins.. if we were fighting for our family/clan in a war.. and i as the youngest die.. it ain't my brother's fault that I died.. I chose to be on the battlefield. I chose to face someone of that strength. I chose to be next to my brothers. I chose those things.. And my death, is my responsibility.. not my brother's. When I already thank them for taking on people who were stronger than me. I thank them for raising me. I thank them for protecting me all those times.

In simpler terms, Izuna dieing had nothing to do with Madara.. Madara was already being a great brother, with taking on the strongest ninja of his time.. so his brothers won't have to.
 

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I would say Madara, because he didn't disrespect Izuna's views or force him to live the way he wanted to.
 

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What civil war are you still talking about??? The one that Danzo stated was irrelevant? And no Danzo himself had already commit over dozen treasons against Konoha.. If Itachi had spoken out in the village against Danzo.. Danzo would've been the next Madara..

funny that Danzo had met Obito.. who also wanted the Uchiha clan dead for some reason.. hmmmm .. Danzo was also the same guy who allied himself with Hanzo, and helped Hanzo kill out the Akatsuki ( an organization that was attempting to make peace, this was before obito took over. )... So Hanzo could help him become the Hokage. =]. He was also the same guy who commit assassination attempts on Hiruzen.

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that scan proves exactly what i said. the clan wouldve taken action and wouldve gotten stomped. sasuke seeing this would want revenge would would also get stomped.

had there been no massacre, uchiha start coup, civil war or not uchiha clan is murdered, sasuke is then murdered. no massacre no sasuke.

danzo really is to blame for all this
 

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Again, I was raised in a family of cousins and brothers. I perfectly understand Madara and Izuna. Ok. So who ever wants to wank on Itachi.. needs to hit real life soon.. or otherwise humanity is losing it.

My older brothers and cousins.. if we were fighting for our family/clan in a war.. and i as the youngest die.. it ain't my brother's fault that I died.. I chose to be on the battlefield. I chose to face someone of that strength. I chose to be next to my brothers. I chose those things.. And my death, is my responsibility.. not my brother's. When I already thank them for taking on people who were stronger than me. I thank them for raising me. I thank them for protecting me all those times.

In simpler terms, Izuna dieing had nothing to do with Madara.. Madara was already being a great brother, with taking on the strongest ninja of his time.. so his brothers won't have to.

Well Said! I agree! I mean he could have restricted Izuna from fighting and all but he respected his strength unlike Itachi and he admitted it to Sasuke that he didn't trust his strength!
 

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that scan proves exactly what i said. the clan wouldve taken action and wouldve gotten stomped. sasuke seeing this would want revenge would would also get stomped.

had there been no massacre, uchiha start coup, civil war or not uchiha clan is murdered, sasuke is then murdered. no massacre no sasuke

Dude you are boring me now.... Why are you so stubborn to understand this bro.. Itachi had plenty of choices.. He could've saved his family.. along with his broskie. He could've done plenty stuff.. he chose not to.

I would have Madara as a brother than Itachi. Someone who picks a corrupted government over Family.. has no right to be called my brother. End of the convo .
 

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danzo already explained to itachi. sasuke will grow up to hate the leaf and he will be killed or they will kill him now to prevent it (i dont remember which one it was). therefor had the civil war started sasuke would hate the leaf and would die at some point in time.

the massacre was to save sasuke. massacre made sasuke hate itachi and not the village

Brother
let me tell u who Danzo is
He is the guy who will cross any limits to get power becoz he thinks his opinion=best opinion
Cross any limits=sprout bull$#!t to a 13 y.o
Now i don't need to give u list of danzo's actions tbh
 
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Ahhh the blonde hair kid must be Itachi..

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O_O who is the one spared Sasuke?

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Who prevented their brother from dying? Case and point. Peace out.

Madara Uchiha. Thank you for agreeing.
 
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Again, I was raised in a family of cousins and brothers. I perfectly understand Madara and Izuna. Ok. So who ever wants to wank on Itachi.. needs to hit real life soon.. or otherwise humanity is losing it.

My older brothers and cousins.. if we were fighting for our family/clan in a war.. and i as the youngest die.. it ain't my brother's fault that I died.. I chose to be on the battlefield. I chose to face someone of that strength. I chose to be next to my brothers. I chose those things.. And my death, is my responsibility.. not my brother's. When I already thank them for taking on people who were stronger than me. I thank them for raising me. I thank them for protecting me all those times.

In simpler terms, Izuna dieing had nothing to do with Madara.. Madara was already being a great brother, with taking on the strongest ninja of his time.. so his brothers won't have to.

no im saying your family's goal should be to survive. if your brother is encouraging you fighting the other family and you get killed, then he wasnt a good brother because his main goal should be the family safety. not to mention hashirama didnt even want to fight them, so madara fought hashirama because he wanted to.
 

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madara is the best brother... im an itachi fan but madara's better
 

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you just said you'd rather be madara's dead brother then itachi's alive tortured one

I didn't say that! Please try to understand. We are not talking about the plot of the story we are discussing if Madara did right or Itachi. Itachi himself regretted his actions because he didn't "trust" his brother. Didn't you see how low he was feeling about all he did in the end?
 

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Brother
let me tell u who Danzo is
He is the guy who will cross any limits to get power becoz he thinks his opinion=best opinion
Cross any limits=sprout bull$#!t to a 13 y.o
Now i don't need to give u list of danzo's actions tbh

all im saying is danzo made it so that sasuke would die if itachi didnt kill his clan. itachi murdering his clan is what kept sasuke alive.
 

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I didn't say that! Please try to understand. We are not talking about the plot of the story we are discussing if Madara did right or Itachi. Itachi himself regretted his actions because he didn't "trust" his brother. Didn't you see how low he was feeling about all he did in the end?

all im saying is itachi protected sasuke and madara didnt. all of madara's brothers are dead and itachi's only brother is alive. itachi did a better job
 

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1. Tsunade got Sasuke out of Coma.. they had no counter for his coma state.. until Tsunade came

2. Jiraiya brought Sasuke back

3. Orochimaru led Sasuke to be strong

4. Haku spared Sasuke.. whether you wanna wank on Naruto being there or not.. is your chice.. just know he could've knocked both of them out real quick.. however due to him being kind.. he didn't do so.

5. I guess you already understand how kakashi/naruto/sakura/shikamaru/ino/lee/choji saved Sasuke =]

6. Again, just because you get your ass whipped by someone stronger than you.. <<< Something that was your choice.. While your brother is fighting someone who is the strongest person of your time.. you expect him to Babysit your ass? Brah you need to get your shit checked.. cause idk what kind of a family you was raised in.. but you sure don't know much about brother hood.

They where all apart of Sauske's development but they weren't the people who made it their mission not to let Sasuke die and even if they where it doesn't matter. Yes Izuna chose to fight but MADARA vowed to protect his younger brother, yet he let his brother die on the SAME exact battle field. Now I'm not saying that it was in Madaras will that Izuna die but when your promise to protect a sibling it's you either do or you don't and he did not.

Now the title of this thread was, "who is the better brother Itachi or Madara." I'm simply basing this off the events I've seen in he manga. Sasuke is still alive and thriving a year after Itachi's death. Madaras younger brother died after he vowed t protect him. This thread isn't about what is fair or who's fault is who's. It's simply to brothers who vowed to protect their younger sibling. One followed through and one did not.

As for you trying to bring my personal life into this it just goes to show how you're getting worked up over a very trivial matter. I have a younger brother and if I vow to keep him and I don't then I didn't. I have absolutely no clue why you think this has anything to do with knowing about brother hood... It's pure logic you promise to do something and you do it. I was simply saying that Itachi did a better job as an older brother because he sought to protect his younger brother and did just that, so, after your mini rant in the small paragraph about my opinion, I almost feel compelled to try and understand why you think that me just looking at clear facts has anything to with me as a person or my relationship with my brother. And what is it about brother hood that you claim I don't know?
 
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Ahhh the blonde hair kid must be Itachi..

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O_O who is the one spared Sasuke?

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Madara Uchiha. Thank you for agreeing.

who's alive though?

good work itachi
 

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They where all apart of Sauske's development but they weren't the people who made it their mission not to let Sasuke die and even if they where it doesn't matter. Yes Izuna chose to fight but MADARA vowed to protect his younger brother, yet he let his brother die on the SAME exact battle field. Now I'm not saying that it was in Madaras will that Izuna die but when your promise to protect a sibling it's you either do or you don't and he did not.

Now the title of this thread was, "who is the better brother Itachi or Madara." I'm simply basing this off the events I've seen in he manga. Sasuke is still alive and thriving a year after Itachi's death. Madaras younger brother died after he vowed t protect him. This thread isn't about what is fair or who's fault is who's. It's simply to brothers who vowed to protect their younger sibling. One followed through and one did not.

As for you trying to bring my personal life into this it just goes to show how you're getting worked up over a very trivial matter. I have a younger brother and if I vow to keep him and I don't then I didn't. I have absolutely no clue why you think this has anything to do with knowing about brother hood... It's pure logic you promise to do something and you do it. I was simply saying that Itachi did a better job as an older brother because he sought to protect his younger brother and did just that, so, after your mini rant in the small paragraph about my opinion, I almost feel compelled to try and understand why you think that me just looking at clear facts has anything to with me as a person or my relationship with my brother. And what is it about brother hood that you claim I don't know?

thank the heavens! someone knows what it means to protect our brother
 

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no im saying your family's goal should be to survive. if your brother is encouraging you fighting the other family and you get killed, then he wasnt a good brother because his main goal should be the family safety. not to mention hashirama didnt even want to fight them, so madara fought hashirama because he wanted to.
No thats not how it works. Are you telling me all those jews who died and had brothers.. were bad brothers?

And my brothers are the ones who want peace.. while I on the other hand don't want peace.. sorry mate..

Andd yea Hashirama didn't want to fight them.. nice thats why he was on the battlefield.. Hashirama himself loves to fight.. simply just not kill. But he has killed in the name of the senju clan and his family. They all for their family.

And Izuna was the one who wanted to continue fighting.

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They where all apart of Sauske's development but they weren't the people who made it their mission not to let Sasuke die and even if they where it doesn't matter. Yes Izuna chose to fight but MADARA vowed to protect his younger brother, yet he let his brother die on the SAME exact battle field. Now I'm not saying that it was in Madaras will that Izuna die but when your promise to protect a sibling it's you either do or you don't and he did not.

Now the title of this thread was, "who is the better brother Itachi or Madara." I'm simply basing this off the events I've seen in he manga. Sasuke is still alive and thriving a year after Itachi's death. Madaras younger brother died after he vowed t protect him. This thread isn't about what is fair or who's fault is who's. It's simply to brothers who vowed to protect their younger sibling. One followed through and one did not.

As for you trying to bring my personal life into this it just goes to show how you're getting worked up over a very trivial matter. I have a younger brother and if I vow to keep him and I don't then I didn't. I have absolutely no clue why you think this has anything to do with knowing about brother hood... It's pure logic you promise to do something and you do it. I was simply saying that Itachi did a better job as an older brother because he sought to protect his younger brother and did just that, so, after your mini rant in the small paragraph about my opinion, I almost feel compelled to try and understand why you think that me just looking at clear facts has anything to with me as a person or my relationship with my brother. And what is it about brother hood that you claim I don't know?
Nah dude, its not called getting worked up. Its called taking the topic seriosuly. You can't talk about brotherhood without taking it personal.

What facts are you looking at? The facts where a brother torments his younger brother? The facts where over 10 other ****ing people are the reason that lil brother is alive? And that older brother isn't one of the 10 people? What facts?

YOU HAVE BEEN GIVING ME YOUR BIASED OPINION . WHILE CLAIMING EVERYONE WHO PROTECTED SASUKE IS PART OF HIS DEVELOPMENT..


Ok then Izuna's death = part of sasuke's development

Madara's death = part of Sasuke's development

List keeps going on. If you want to play the development card in this dicussion, don't bother arguing in here. Ok?

YES MADARa's BROTHER DIED...... BECAUSE MADARA WAS BUSY FIGHTING SOMEONE WHO WAS STRONGER THAN HIM... WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DO? BE ON IZUNA'S **** 24/7?

Go understand about real brothers and then come talk to me.

YOU DON't EVEN UNDERSTAND BROTHERHOOD....
 
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