Better brother,Itachi or Madara

[Aquaglow]

If Madara wouldn't form the alliance with Senju. Itachi and Sasuke wouldn't exist.

So true! It was his effort alone! Hashirama and Madara were both dreamers! They anted true change and they did try for sure! But in the end one gets everything while other sacrificed everything!

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

had itachi not killed his clan sasuke wouldve died in the civil war. no massacre no sasuke

1. Civil war crap, was started by Danzo<<<<<< Hell danzo went far enough to even state.. whether a civil war occured or not.. he would still kill all of the uchiha clan. So if your excuse to justify Itachi is "civil war".. sorry mate its not gonna work anymore.

2. Itachi didn't even know wtf to do. He was what you call "government's pet".. thought normally not a bad thing.. however if the government is corrupted.. then yea.

3. Itachi didn't even understand his own clan... his own freaking people..

4. And you are talking about the same Uchiha.. who said their top priority is to protect the village? And the best way to do so was take control from Danzo and Hiruzen.. who were fighting like idiots..

5. Your brother > your parents??? What kind of ****ery is that? The very people that raised you.. taught you.. you are gonna betray them? What the f*ck dude..

I'm sorry man when it comes to brotherhood/family.. i take these things seriously.

 

[Aquaglow]

the thing is none of you are looking at itachi as a brother but itachi as a character. itachi may have did some bad things but out of the two, only his brother is still alive.

madara may have wanted the best for his clan but he got izuna killed, and ALL his brothers are dead. madara has no brothers.

it really comes down to would you rather have a murderer for your brother or be dead

If we look him as a brother then it is even more creepy! We know his character that is why we forgave him otherwise no one can imagine killing their own parents! I mean who wants to be an orphan? seriously!

 

[Sageof7Path]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

Sorry. Itachi didn't keep Sasuke alive. Let me tell you the people who did.

1. Haku <<<<<<< This guy could've killed Sasuke on sight... If it weren't for this dude.. there would be no Sasuke.
2. Kakashi and Naruto and lee and Sakura and Shikamaru
3. Orochimaru
4. Tsunade
5. Jiraiya

^^^^^ all these people are responsible for Sasuke being alive. Not simply Itachi. And Izuna's death isn't Madara's fault. Just cause you are a weakling .. and end up getting ****ed up in a fight.. doesn't mean its your brother's fault for not beating that person.. when he was already facing someone twice your strength.

NARUTO DESPITE NOT EVNE BEING SASUKE'S BROTHER.. WAS A BETTER FREAKING BROTHER TO SASUKE..

Madara talked about protecting Izuna and Izuna died right in front of him. Itachi made it his mission to protect Sasuke and Sasuke is still alive. If Sasuke dies now it doesn't matter because Itachi is long gone. Itachi made it his will that Sasuke lie and prosper and now that he's gone he successfully completed his mission. Madara said he would but didn't. Izuna died. Jiryaa didn't save Sasuke either Itachi wouldn't have killed him and none of those people saved Sasuke. And no Haku def couldn't kill Sasuke cause Naruto was about to wreck him.

 

[ShiroT]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

1. Civil war crap, was started by Danzo<<<<<< Hell danzo went far enough to even state.. whether a civil war occured or not.. he would still kill all of the uchiha clan. So if your excuse to justify Itachi is "civil war".. sorry mate its not gonna work anymore.

2. Itachi didn't even know wtf to do. He was what you call "government's pet".. thought normally not a bad thing.. however if the government is corrupted.. then yea.

3. Itachi didn't even understand his own clan... his own freaking people..

4. And you are talking about the same Uchiha.. who said their top priority is to protect the village? And the best way to do so was take control from Danzo and Hiruzen.. who were fighting like idiots..

you can rationalize it how ever you ant. danzo explained it to itachi, there will be civil war and we are not negotiating. we will stomp the uchiha. all of the uchiha children witnessing this will grow up to hate the village and be killed including sasuke. you could kill your clan or let sasuke be killed by the leaf.

no massacre no sasuke

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

Itachi was a great brother before the massacre. After the massacre he was a terrible brother. His plan failed and even he admitted it was the wrong tactic to plan.

 

[Lightbringer]

a parent does have some control. if they move into a area/school with alot of gang violence then they risk there child being exposed to that. same for areas with alot of murders or drugs. if you choose to move your child into an area with alot of drug use and your child becomes a druggy then its your fault. same if you sent them to a bad school there are probably 5 schools in every area and if you choose the bad one its your fault. if your scared that your child mght get exposed to porn to early then either educate them on it or put up filters. a parent has more control then you give them for.

if your family settled in africa and you didnt want to raise your child in a certian area then leave that area.

again you still didnt reply to my last analogy.

scenario one: madara loved his brothers. he encouraged war with the senju's even though it was a losing fight. madara did not talk his brothers out of war, he did not attempt to stop them from fighting, he didnt even protect them during the war, they all were killed. madra did nothing to prevent this yet he loved his brothers so its ok right?

scenario 2 : itachi loved his brother. his clan was a bunch of jealous emos and wanted power. his option was kill everyone but your brother or let your brother watch his whole clan get murdered during a civil war in which sasuke would feel up with hate and likely be killed to. itachi decided option two because this is the only way for sasuke to live a normal life. sure he provoked sasuke to hate him and to kill him, but all of this was done for sasuke's sake. you may not agree with it but itachi did it with sasuke in mind and this didnt result in sasuke being murdered.

im saying this again, if you think someone who allows there brothers to die in war is better because he loved them over someone who loved his little brother and ultimately kept them alive but tortured them then who am i to judge your opinion :|. again i'll take the brother who ultimately kept there brother alive because sasuke wouldve died during the civil war

Can Itachi see the future?

 

[ShiroT]

If we look him as a brother then it is even more creepy! We know his character that is why we forgave him otherwise no one can imagine killing their own parents! I mean who wants to be an orphan? seriously!

you can be dead and i'll be the orphan

 

[Tennis Robot]

If we look him as a brother then it is even more creepy! We know his character that is why we forgave him otherwise no one can imagine killing their own parents! I mean who wants to be an orphan? seriously!

Your vision is clouded by your own preconceptions. There are a lot of people who would kill their parents if they could.

 

[ShiroT]

Can Itachi see the future?

did itachi prevent sasuke from dieing because of the massacre and did his decision result in sasuke being killed?

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

Madara talked about protecting Izuna and Izuna died right in front of him. Itachi made it his mission to protect Sasuke and Sasuke is still alive. If Sasuke dies now it doesn't matter because Itachi is long gone. Itachi made it his will that Sasuke lie and prosper and now that he's gone he successfully completed his mission. Madara said he would but didn't. Izuna died. Jiryaa didn't save Sasuke either Itachi wouldn't have killed him and none of those people saved Sasuke. And no Haku def couldn't kill Sasuke cause Naruto was about to wreck him.

1. Tsunade got Sasuke out of Coma.. they had no counter for his coma state.. until Tsunade came

2. Jiraiya brought Sasuke back

3. Orochimaru led Sasuke to be strong

4. Haku spared Sasuke.. whether you wanna wank on Naruto being there or not.. is your chice.. just know he could've knocked both of them out real quick.. however due to him being kind.. he didn't do so.

5. I guess you already understand how kakashi/naruto/sakura/shikamaru/ino/lee/choji saved Sasuke =]

6. Again, just because you get your ass whipped by someone stronger than you.. <<< Something that was your choice.. While your brother is fighting someone who is the strongest person of your time.. you expect him to Babysit your ass? Brah you need to get your shit checked.. cause idk what kind of a family you was raised in.. but you sure don't know much about brother hood.

 

[Lightbringer]

did itachi prevent sasuke from dieing because of the massacre and did his decision result in sasuke being killed?

You didn't answer my question.

Also Itachi could have smuggled Sasuke out to somewhere safe or just leave the village with him. That's what I would have done.

 

[Aquaglow]

Your vision is clouded by your own preconceptions. There are a lot of people who would kill their parents if they could.

Ok how about I say "A normal person"! Is that Ok with you?

 

[KingHashirama]

you can rationalize it how ever you ant. danzo explained it to itachi, there will be civil war and we are not negotiating. we will stomp the uchiha. all of the uchiha children witnessing this will grow up to hate the village and be killed including sasuke. you could kill your clan or let sasuke be killed by the leaf.

no massacre no sasuke

What civil war are you still talking about??? The one that Danzo stated was irrelevant? And no Danzo himself had already commit over dozen treasons against Konoha.. If Itachi had spoken out in the village against Danzo.. Danzo would've been the next Madara..

funny that Danzo had met Obito.. who also wanted the Uchiha clan dead for some reason.. hmmmm .. Danzo was also the same guy who allied himself with Hanzo, and helped Hanzo kill out the Akatsuki ( an organization that was attempting to make peace, this was before obito took over. )... So Hanzo could help him become the Hokage. =]. He was also the same guy who commit assassination attempts on Hiruzen.

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[BLAZE]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

you can rationalize it how ever you ant. danzo explained it to itachi, there will be civil war and we are not negotiating. we will stomp the uchiha. all of the uchiha children witnessing this will grow up to hate the village and be killed including sasuke. you could kill your clan or let sasuke be killed by the leaf.

no massacre no sasuke

lolololololololololololololol
r u serious tbh
or u r just trolling

 

[Aquaglow]

you can be dead and i'll be the orphan

What the f........ hell? Are you drunk?

 

[ShiroT]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

1. Tsunade got Sasuke out of Coma.. they had no counter for his coma state.. until Tsunade came

2. Jiraiya brought Sasuke back

3. Orochimaru led Sasuke to be strong

4. Haku spared Sasuke.. whether you wanna wank on Naruto being there or not.. is your chice.. just know he could've knocked both of them out real quick.. however due to him being kind.. he didn't do so.

5. I guess you already understand how kakashi/naruto/sakura/shikamaru/ino/lee/choji saved Sasuke =]

6. Again, just because you get your ass whipped by someone stronger than you.. <<< Something that was your choice.. While your brother is fighting someone who is the strongest person of your time.. you expect him to Babysit your ass? Brah you need to get your shit checked.. cause idk what kind of a family you was raised in.. but you sure don't know much about brother hood.

again if you think a good brother is someone who lets there brother fight in a losing war and doesnt protect them? then by all means go fight fights with your siblings instead of trying to prevent them from fighting which would've saved there life. had madara even attempted to stop his brothers then i wouldve had a different opinion

if you think being a brother means allowing your other brothers to be in danger(which they all died) instead of keeping them out of danger then . . . .

 

[Aquaglow]

And I was wondering why didn't Itachi tell the third Hokage that Danzo tried to kill Shisui? He was like silent and following every stupid order from Danzo!

 

[ShiroT]

Re: Better brother,Itachi or Madara?

lolololololololololololololol
r u serious tbh
or u r just trolling

danzo already explained to itachi. sasuke will grow up to hate the leaf and he will be killed or they will kill him now to prevent it (i dont remember which one it was). therefor had the civil war started sasuke would hate the leaf and would die at some point in time.

the massacre was to save sasuke. massacre made sasuke hate itachi and not the village

 

[ShiroT]

What the f........ hell? Are you drunk?

no some people would rather live then be dead. your obviously not one of them