Asura Path vs Tsunade

[Conspirator.]

Tsunade should win. She tanks all of Asura's attacks, and should be able to kill the path with just one of her punches.

 

[Rιver]

Speed has nothing to do with this. B got caught because he jumped down from above, and was too weak (physically) to get free or overpower Nagato. Not to mention his neck and the hand that his sword was bound, if he does the same to Tsunade, she uses her free hand and blows Asura Path apart. So yes, she can break his restraint.

She easily lifts Gamabunta's Tanto and slams it through Manda's jaw. That isn't striking strength last time I checked.



Or, she takes the bomb, and while she's healing, she blocks his blade with any other part of her body and then smashes him.

So what if he jumped from above? Nagato still restrained him. Also, if B was much stronger than V2 E in base he should be almost as strong as Tsunade in lifting strength. But he was way too weak to break out of Asura's restraint.

Because we saw her lifting it? What if it took her a chapter to lift it? What if she got help? But we don't know that.

She takes the bomb that eradicated half a village and stops a razor blade with sheer hands, what? Firstly, he has more blades than she has arms. Secondly, Byakugo isn't really regenerating her that fast. Thirdly, since when has she been able to stop blades with hands? What?

 

[KidGamer65]

So what if he jumped from above? Nagato still restrained him.

Yeah, meaning it had nothing to do with speed, like you claimed. Lmao.

[Also, if B was much stronger than V2 E in base he should be almost as strong as Tsunade in lifting strength. But he was way too weak to break out of Asura's restraint.

Tsunade is canonically stronger than Ay or B when it comes to strength, and she has better strength feats, so no, and why do you keep mentioning Lifting Strength? I've already told you how she gets free, and this is not a counter.

Because we saw her lifting it? What if it took her a chapter to lift it? What if she got help? But we don't know that.

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Manga shows her lifting it, get evidence if you disagree.

She takes the bomb that eradicated half a village and stops a razor blade with sheer hands, what?

This is pure wank. Asura's bomb never "eradicated half a village." It destroyed a bunch of buildings in one area of the village.

Firstly, he has more blades than she has arms.

How is that relevant?

Secondly, Byakugo isn't really regenerating her that fast.

Byakugo regenerates as soon as the injury is formed. It regenerates fast enough for her to fight with Tsunade giant Susanoo blades going through her side both ways, so yes, it regenerates fast enough. No one ever said she needed to be in tip top condition to counter attack.

Thirdly, since when has she been able to stop blades with hands? What?

If only you could actually show me where I said she'd stop a blade with her hand. "Any other part of her body" means any part of her body beside her neck, not her hands. The blade gets stuck in her body and she blows him apart.

 

[Rιver]

Yeah, meaning it had nothing to do with speed, like you claimed. Lmao.

What's your point here? Asura Path is clearly much faster than Tsunade. Not only is that an evidence but Nagato has reacted to B in V2, Asura Path got in the middle of Kakashi and Pain and other Pain's have reacted to HM Naruto as well. She almost got blitzed by Asura Path.

Tsunade is canonically stronger than Ay or B when it comes to strength, and she has better strength feats, so no, and why do you keep mentioning Lifting Strength? I've already told you how she gets free, and this is not a counter.

E, yes but so is B. So how is she canonically stronger than him? Of course by common sense but you can't tell the gap.

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Manga shows her lifting it, get evidence if you disagree.

As I said, nothing tells that she lifted it by herself nor the time interval required for her to lift that.

This is pure wank. Asura's bomb never "eradicated half a village." It destroyed a bunch of buildings in one area of the village.

Unless you're going to argue that Tsunade > few five blocks that was eradicated, Tsunade is blown to oblivion, suffers at least massive injuries and Asura Path finishes her off. No way is she taking that bomb without losing a few limbs.

How is that relevant?

If she restrains two, three hands restrain her and the blade slices her head off. A missile for present.

Byakugo regenerates as soon as the injury is formed. It regenerates fast enough for her to fight with Tsunade giant Susanoo blades going through her side both ways, so yes, it regenerates fast enough. No one ever said she needed to be in tip top condition to counter attack.

We're not talking about blades on her stomach, we're talking about missing limbs here. In canon, she has never regenerated a lost limb. Why did she insist on connecting her body? Baring that fact, we also don't know how long it takes her to regenerate it. So anything about her creating few arms and destroying Asura is ludicrous considering she could barely regenerate few burns. If she's not in tip top condition, she dies.

If only you could actually show me where I said she'd stop a blade with her hand. "Any other part of her body" means any part of her body beside her neck, not her hands. The blade gets stuck in her body and she blows him apart.

No, the blades will slash her. 6 arms and a blade simultaneously attacking her means she won't take on all and she'd get decapitated and any limb or flesh coming in way gets sliced off as well. She isn't stopping it, and Asura can create more attacks and if she retreats a missile blows her to oblivion.

 

[Benjamin King]

if youʻre fighting against loosing consciousness and slipping into a coma, then obviously your mental reaction time will go down.
If the bodyʻs movement is powered by chakra, then obviously being exhausted to that point is going to lower your ability to physically react and respond to attacks.

Exhaustion that affects your mental state is linked to reactions. Being severely low on chakra is definitely linked to physical reactions.

That's disproved when the person's morale is high. Considering Tsunade was prepared to fight Pain after losing her seal, her reaction time is not lowered.

So once again, reaction time is triggered by the brain signals. Until I see a manga fact that Chakra is linked to that, you can blab in the fan-fiction section.

Itachi had enough chakra to use a susanoo powerful enough to block kirin, and then spam V4 susanoo for a couple of chapters. That in no way shape or form puts him at ʻexhausted to deathʻ and ʻchakra was almost zeroʻ before kirin hit.

lol you actually believe that lightning moves at the speed of light? Please enlighten me on how you came to this absurd conclusion.

And actually, itachi is a perfect example of this as weʻve seen that when he uses his V4 susanoo heʻs so exhausted at that point that all his body can do is slowly walk.

He used Susanoo through willpower, nothing more or less. Yes, it does, whether you like it or hate it. Itachi's stamina in the databook =2.5. Is using MS techniques 3 times costs Itachi's exhaustion? Yes, stated in P1. Did Itachi use his MS 3 times before using Susanoo? Yes. Does Itachi have a disease, thus effecting his Chakra? Yes. Knowing the fallacious debater you are, I'm not shocked you'll deny those facts.

How does moving at speed of light or not matters? Lightning crosses 100x times faster than sound-waves. Itachi still reacted to that, and it's amazing reaction time for someone on low reserves, which according to you shouldn't happen.

So you agree I'm right? Well, good thing you acknowledged your contradiction and came to the correct conclusion.

 

[Rιver]

That's disproved when the person's morale is high. Considering Tsunade was prepared to fight Pain after losing her seal, her reaction time is not lowered.

So once again, reaction time is triggered by the brain signals. Until I see a manga fact that Chakra is linked to that, you can blab in the fan-fiction section.



He used Susanoo through willpower, nothing more or less. Yes, it does, whether you like it or hate it. Itachi's stamina in the databook =2.5. Is using MS techniques 3 times costs Itachi's exhaustion? Yes, stated in P1. Did Itachi use his MS 3 times before using Susanoo? Yes. Does Itachi have a disease, thus effecting his Chakra? Yes. Knowing the fallacious debater you are, I'm not shocked you'll deny those facts.

WTF? Are you stupid or just don't have general knowledge? I'll go with both. Yes,

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So you agree I'm right? Well, good thing you acknowledged your contradiction and came to the correct conclusion.

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Lightning is not even close to the speed of light.

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[Apêx1]

Lightning only travels at about 100,000m/s+, whereas light travels at -300,000m/s. So it is about 1/4-1/2 of the speed of light given the circumstances.

 

[Rιver]

Lightning only travels at about 100,000m/s+, whereas light travels at -300,000m/s. So it is about 1/4-1/2 of the speed of light given the circumstances.

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Pretty sure lightning travels less than a percent..

Also, light travels 300 million so that's wrong.

 

[Benjamin King]

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Lightning is not even close to the speed of light.

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Doesn't need to travel at the speed of light. The fact doesn't change, that almost non-Chakra Itachi mentally reacted 3,700 miles per second attack. While I'm wrong on the comparison to the speed of light, my point doesn't change in regards to Chakra has no effect on reaction time, which lanakui8 asserts it would.

 

[Apêx1]

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Pretty sure lightning travels less than a percent..

Also, light travels 300 million so that's wrong.

My bad, I got a little over excited mistaking meters and miles.

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[Rιver]

Doesn't need to travel at the speed of light. The fact doesn't change, that almost non-Chakra Itachi mentally reacted 3,700 miles per second attack. While I'm wrong on the comparison to the speed of light, my point doesn't change in regards to Chakra has no effect on reaction time, which lanakui8 asserts it would.

I didn't say that.

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My bad, I got a little over excited mistaking meters and miles.

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No problem, lol.

 

[Benjamin King]

I didn't say that.

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No problem, lol.

I said lanakui8 asserted that, not you. But yes, I'm wrong on my comparison, so I'll change it.

 

[Apêx1]

Just to give an estimate of lightning's speed in the NV. Upper tiers of NV are considered 100 mach. 10000 mach is considered SSJ Gotenks. Lightning is about 2000 mach, so 1/5th of SSJ Gotenks' mach, which is rather impressive.

 

[Rιver]

I said lanakui8 asserted that, not you. But yes, I'm wrong on my comparison, so I'll change it.

Well, 'k lol.

 

[TheEvilOne]

The Kirin has a several seconds charge time, so Itachi had plenty of time to activate the Susanoo. Just saying.

 

[Rιver]

Just to give an estimate of lightning's speed in the NV. Upper tiers of NV are considered 100 mach. 10000 mach is considered SSJ Gotenks. Lightning is about 2000 mach, so 1/5th of SSJ Gotenks' mach, which is rather impressive.

Isn't lightning mach 30 000? And if you're referring to that scan where he flew around the orbit, technically Naruto characters would be able to react but we don't know since it was an unquantifiable feat.

 

[Benjamin King]

The Kirin has a several seconds charge time, so Itachi had plenty of time to activate the Susanoo. Just saying.

Do you know what we're even talking about? This post has nothing to do with our discussion.

Just to give an estimate of lightning's speed in the NV. Upper tiers of NV are considered 100 mach. 10000 mach is considered SSJ Gotenks. Lightning is about 2000 mach, so 1/5th of SSJ Gotenks' mach, which is rather impressive.

According to Orochimaru, brain signals move 360km/hour:

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Assuming sound-waves move at an equal speed to our real world, lightning in NV is extremely fast, as BZ notes to be 100x times faster than sound.

 

[Strict]

The discussion started with whether Tsunade moved her hand to the face before or after Naruto arrived, to Kirin and Gotenks circling the planet.

 

[Benjamin King]

The discussion started with whether Tsunade moved her hand to the face before or after Naruto arrived, to Kirin and Gotenks circling the planet.

It was moving fine until River interfered with my discussion with lanakui8, who speculates Chakra has involvement with reaction time.

 

[Apêx1]

Isn't lightning mach 30 000? And if you're referring to that scan where he flew around the orbit, technically Naruto characters would be able to react but we don't know since it was an unquantifiable feat.

That's about 10 million meters per second, I don't believe so, though it's all about the conditions. I'd say 4k max max, but NV world is somewhat different as Benjamin King has demonstrated.