Ashura had Chakra mode without the bijuus?

[kunde]

When I said no where, I meant the idea of using chakra bomb or whatever you want to call it. I don't get you. You all are saying it kool that Indra, Madara, and Sasuke's power are the same. But Ashura, Hashi, and Naruto are all different but the same. All of you come up with all these theories to support Ashura with no facts. Why would an avatar look like a samurai if it all about ninshuu. What samurai would not have any weapons but chakra balls? When it is clear proof that Ashura gotten a gift from Hago. This scan clearly showed that Hago left him more than just the leadership of ninshuu.

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It's just ur opinion bro. Sasuke has amaterasu, madara is a susano'o specialist. Madara has more chakra than sasuke. Rinnegan powered sasuke and madara has different abilities so their power is no really same. Besides uchiha's power is dojutsu, meanwhile ashura's descendants posess strong body. That's the main difference. There is no proof that sage gave his half power to ashura, and with his i rest my case. There is no point in wasting my time any further

 

[Nagi]

You know that Tengus are based off of Crows right? That's why Susanoos always have a beak and stuff.

So why can't his avatar be similar?

You're stating that Chakra Mode is Kurama's power and yet Toneri, a non Hagoromo descendant, has it.

The point of giving Toneri a chakra mode is a statement from Kishi that the body inherits the chakra mode while the mind inherits the doujutsu.

That everything is the Ninshu, have been paying attention? Ninshu is about everything and he bestowed that upon Ashura and that he will be responsible on creating peace through Ninshu.

Basically he made Ashura responsible and made him safe guard the Earth and Indra didn't quite like that as he has the older brother complex, he wants to be the one in charge. It isn't about power. It's about having the responsibility to be the guardian of mankind and making sure that there's peace.

That's what he meant by everything. He did not give him power. There's a reason why he gave him the 9 beasts because he saw that Ashura wouldn't use them for their power and use em for war.

If anything Kurama may have copied Ashura's avatar. I mean, the beasts are ****in babies.

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Tengu are warriors! ninshuu is all about peace. No there would be no reason to weaponize it. Unless you wanna say Ashura took ninshuu and weaponize it.

We have no proof that everything meant just that! How can you deny him saying, "That's why I left the power to both of them" after that?

Any college teacher can tell you that Hago gave power to ashura before, but this time he gonna gift them both(Naruto and sasuke)!

Kurama was a baby back then. That's why I said it look like a baby kurama version. Ashura weaponize his ass. That's why Kurama was filled with hatred after!

 

[Nagi]

It's just ur opinion bro. Sasuke has amaterasu, madara is a susano'o specialist. Madara has more chakra than sasuke. Rinnegan powered sasuke and madara has different abilities so their power is no really same. Besides uchiha's power is dojutsu, meanwhile ashura's descendants posess strong body. That's the main difference. There is no proof that sage gave his half power to ashura, and with his i rest my case. There is no point in wasting my time any further

That scan is clear proof that Hago gave him power. But whatever. believe whatever you want.

 

[wanderingcactus]

You're just begging to have some Truth-Seeking Bombs dropped on you.

You're stating you're all about Samurai and yet you only see them as war mongers.

They aren't.

"Why would it be a Samurai if it has no Armor or a Sword?"

bah, pathetic. That's a disgrace to all military personnel. You're one of those who see warriors as killing machines. It's not what it is like in the movies. They aren't conquerors.

The Samurais are more strict about that as well. They are all about order and peace. You also seemed uncultured as well.

Not all Samurais look the same. They differ from different Eras. Much like military dress codes from the medieval to industrial war to modern warfare.

Their armors change depending on the weaponry.

So like I said, it is up to you whether you believe. If you believe that Ashura had the 9 beasts then Naruto > Sasuke.

BTW.

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Ashura = Indra. Just saying. Hagoromo said it. Manga facts. My manga facts are stronger and well backed that yours

Kurama was hateful of humans as the beasts were captured and used as tools. They turned Ninshu into ninjutsu.

"gave him everything"

That just proves Ashura > Indra. then now, Naruto > Sasuke. TY for the thread.

 

[Nagi]

You're just begging to have some Truth-Seeking Bombs dropped on you.

You're stating you're all about Samurai and yet you only see them as war mongers.

They aren't.

"Why would it be a Samurai if it has no Armor or a Sword?"

bah, pathetic. That's a disgrace to all military personnel. You're one of those who see warriors as killing machines. It's not what it is like in the movies. They aren't conquerors.

The Samurais are more strict about that as well. They are all about order and peace. You also seemed uncultured as well.

Not all Samurais look the same. They differ from different Eras. Much like military dress codes from the medieval to industrial war to modern warfare.

Their armors change depending on the weaponry.

So like I said, it is up to you whether you believe. If you believe that Ashura had the 9 beasts then Naruto > Sasuke.

BTW.

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Ashura = Indra. Just saying. Hagoromo said it. Manga facts. My manga facts are stronger and well backed that yours

Kurama was hateful of humans as the beasts were captured and used as tools. They turned Ninshu into ninjutsu.

"gave him everything"

That just proves Ashura > Indra. then now, Naruto > Sasuke. TY for the thread.

That's funny. Seem like you don't know shit about Samurai. I guess I'll drop a thread about the true meaning of Samurai and their purpose later and tag you in the opening post of it.

 

[3MESSIAH]

i think he was a jinchuuriki...it`s not clarified but it surely looks like it though

we dont know when exactly the fight between him and indra took place...if sage was already dead at the time then it`s possible ashura had the bijuus at his side seeing as how he was said to gain power through the help of others

 

[ninjarasengan]

Tengu are warriors! ninshuu is all about peace. No there would be no reason to weaponize it. Unless you wanna say Ashura took ninshuu and weaponize it.

We have no proof that everything meant just that! How can you deny him saying, "That's why I left the power to both of them" after that?

Any college teacher can tell you that Hago gave power to ashura before, but this time he gonna gift them both(Naruto and sasuke)!

Kurama was a baby back then. That's why I said it look like a baby kurama version. Ashura weaponize his ass. That's why Kurama was filled with hatred after!

That isn't the only way to interpret that...remember Hagoromo had a belief about not having power consolidated into one person...fearing they'd become like his mother,
Thus, it'd make no sense for him to intentionally elevate one person to god status.

Everything, makes more sense when pertaining to the responsibility of bringing peace/order to the world.

Naruto and Sasuke's case was special due the danger of a Kaguya level threat emerging. Power was what was required in order to restore order to the world...but instead of leaving the task only to Naruto, he entrusted it to Sasuke also.

Ashura and Indra had no Madara to defeat, so power shouldn't have been involved.

 

[wanderingcactus]

That moment when you own someone...

/thread guys.

 

[Nagi]

That isn't the only way to interpret that...remember Hagoromo had a belief about not having power consolidated into one person...fearing they'd become like his mother,
Thus, it'd make no sense for him to intentionally elevate one person to god status.

Everything, makes more sense when pertaining to the responsibility of bringing peace/order to the world.

Naruto and Sasuke's case was special due the danger of a Kaguya level threat emerging. Power was what was required in order to restore order to the world...but instead of leaving the task only to Naruto, he entrusted it to Sasuke also.

Ashura and Indra had no Madara to defeat, so power shouldn't have been involved.

Hago gave him his yang energy so Ashura can use it to connect to more people. But Ashura ended up weaponizing it to fight Indra!

 

[Scryed]

The Bijuu were children at the time...
The only problem I have with the theory of him having Tailed Beasts would be that I'd imagine his avatar would've looked like a small Kurama. The reason I said Tailed beasts rather than just Kurama is because Ashura seemed to have Gudodama. Though my guess is that he had a weaker version of RSM which gave him access to Gudodama.