Ashura had Chakra mode without the bijuus?

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Ashura had Chakra mode without the bijuus?

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Hago said Ashura's power grew to match Indra's power.

Based off Hashi and Naruto, I'm assuming that Ashura mastered Sage mode during Hago's lifetime. Then on his deathbed, Hago made Ashura the leader of ninshuu and gave him yang energy or chakra mode ability where he can concect with all 9 bijuus.

If you think I'm wrong, then please explain to me why Ashura was able to gain chakra mode and purposely made it look like Kurama?
 

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Explain to me how you know he didn't/couldn't have bijuu chakra.
 

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It's unknown.

The fact that he has that Avatar at all suggests he was a jinchuriki at some point.
 

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What you said could be right or it's after Hago death.
 

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Ashura had Chakra mode without the bijuus?

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Hago said Ashura's power grew to match Indra's power.

Based off Hashi and Naruto, I'm assuming that Ashura mastered Sage mode during Hago's lifetime. Then on his deathbed, Hago made Ashura the leader of ninshuu and gave him yang energy or chakra mode ability where he can concect with all 9 bijuus.

If you think I'm wrong, then please explain to me why Ashura was able to gain chakra mode and purposely made it look like Kurama?

There's a difference between Ashura's chakra mode, and Naruto's Ashura Avatar.

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Aside from size, the head of Ashura's Avatar is clearly samurai-like, whereas Naruto's is clearly a fox's. Naruto and Sasuke most likely, due to being transmigrants, imitated Ashura and Indra even with different powers. Following the logic that because Naruto's avatar looks similar to Ashura's means that he had the bijus, then this means Indra also had the bijus enhancing him as Sasuke named his final attack that uses the bijus as "Indra's arrow."

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Considering the term "Ashura's chakra bloomed" and it's said that RSM has "a chakra bloom" then it stands to reason that this chakra mode is similar to RSM, and may not be from the bijus.
 
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There's difference between Ashura's chakra mode, and Naruto's Ashura Avatar.

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Aside from size, the head of Ashura's Avatar is clearly samurai-like, whereas Naruto's is clearly a fox's. Naruto and Sasuke most likely, due to being transmigrants, imitated Ashura and Indra even with different powers. Following the logic that because Naruto's avatar looks similar to Ashura's means that he had the bijus, then this means Indra also had the bijus enhancing him as Sasuke named his final attack that uses the bijus as "Indra's arrow."

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Considering the term "Ashura's chakra bloomed" and it's said that RSM has "a chakra bloom" then it stands to reason that this chakra mode is similar to RSM, and may not be from the bijus.

Dude no! I'm a samurai dog! All my final fantasy XI characters are samurais. My fanfic stories is all about samurais and ninjas.. That head shape is nothing like a samurai.

look at Ashura's avatar legs. It is just like fox legs. It is pretty damn clear that it is baby Kurama at least!

Dude, there is no shame in it. Ashura got extra power from Hago. Indra redefined himself, created Ninjutsu to fight Ashura, and destroyed Ashura and himself.


By that logic, Indra should've awaken the rinnegan!
 
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Explain to me how you know he didn't/couldn't have bijuu chakra.

Ashura would have to be friends with Kurama to have that mode, only Kurama's Jinchuurikis had that type of mode and the Bijuus only mention Naruto being like Hagoromo and didn't bring up Ashura. BM is only accessed by prefect Jins, the Bijuus remembered Hagoromo telling them that they'll find someone better than he is; this wasn't Ashura who was his successor but Naruto as the Bijuus agreed too.

Pretty sure Ashura was born with a RSM because he has The Sage's body as Indra has the Sage's eyes but weaker versions.
 

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It's RSM, but no bijuu are influenced in that mode. Chakra avatars were never exclusively said to be made from kurama's chakra, nor were the goudamas.
 

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Dude no! I'm a samurai dog! All my final fantasy XI characters are samurais. My fanfic stories is all about samurais and ninjas.. That head shape is nothing like a samurai.

look at Ashura's avatar legs. It is just like fox legs. It is pretty damn clear that it is baby Kurama at least!

Dude, there is no shame in it. Ashura got extra power from Hago. Indra redefined himself, created Ninjutsu to fight Ashura, and destroyed Ashura and himself.


Which is entirely your speculation. Please, by all means, explain why his face doesn't look like a fox or an animals then.
 

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It's RSM, but no bijuu are influenced in that mode. Chakra avatars were never exclusively said to be made from kurama's chakra, nor were the goudamas.

Which is entirely your speculation. Please, by all means, explain why his face doesn't look like a fox or an animals then.

His face look just like a fox and his legs are shaped like fox legs. That's more than enough proof to tell you that it is Kurama!

Further proof that it is Kurama? Hago clearly stated that bijuus are suppose to be use as balancer and not weapons. Well Ashura weaponize the F out of Kurama!
 
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Because Ashura is just an older konohamaru with swag and sage powers :Sparks:
 

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Hagoromo was a jinchuuriki, as a result his children's chakra was influenced by the Juubi's the same way Naruto's was by Kurama. Indra's avatar is a product of the Sharingan which is a product of the Juubi's chakra, logically Ashura's avatar would also be a product of the Juubi's chakra influencing his own. However I think the avatar was unlocked after he received the Yang seal because his chakra would have been amplified to RSM level like Naruto's.
 

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Ashura would have to be friends with Kurama to have that mode, only Kurama's Jinchuurikis had that type of mode and the Bijuus only mention Naruto being like Hagoromo and didn't bring up Ashura. BM is only accessed by prefect Jins, the Bijuus remembered Hagoromo telling them that they'll find someone better than he is; this wasn't Ashura who was his successor but Naruto as the Bijuus agreed too.

Pretty sure Ashura was born with a RSM because he has The Sage's body as Indra has the Sage's eyes but weaker versions.

So are you saying ashura doesn't/couldn't have bijuu chakra?
 

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His father was a jinchuuriki, as a result his children's chakra was influenced by the Juubi's the same way Naruto's was by Kurama. Indra's avatar is a product of the Sharingan which is a product of the Juubi's chakra, logically Ashura's avatar would also be a product of the Juubi's chakra influencing his own. However I think the avatar was unlocked after he received the Yang seal because his chakra would have been amplified to RSM level like Naruto's.

Right. Because the timing would make sense. Indra awaken the MS after Hago died and Ashura unlocked Avatar mode after Hago gave him the yang seal or yang energy.
 

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Dude no! I'm a samurai dog! All my final fantasy XI characters are samurais. My fanfic stories is all about samurais and ninjas.. That head shape is nothing like a samurai.

look at Ashura's avatar legs. It is just like fox legs. It is pretty damn clear that it is baby Kurama at least!

Dude, there is no shame in it. Ashura got extra power from Hago. Indra redefined himself, created Ninjutsu to fight Ashura, and destroyed Ashura and himself.


By that logic, Indra should've awaken the rinnegan!

lmfaooo yooo
 

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Just like Indra was born with EMS and he didnt had to implant his brother's MS , Ashura was also born with his Chakra mode (RSM) and he didnt had to receive all bijuus chakra.

But As Hago said, Ashura's chakra Bloomed after many years of training thats why Ashura gained that Chakra mode after some time.
 

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Just like Indra was born with EMS and he didnt had to implant his brother's MS , Ashura was also born with his Chakra mode (RSM) and he didnt had to receive all bijuus chakra.

But As Hago said, Ashura's chakra Bloomed after many years of training thats why Ashura gained that Chakra mode after some time.

lol By your logic, Hashi would have chakra mode too!
 
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