kingdondunga
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Minato uses ftg for strategic purposes so he can counter attack in an instance just like he did with madara and A but he can also use his raw speed just like he caught naruto or when he saved kakashi.
[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed
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masterylucain
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masterylucain
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Im sorry for double posting but yeah, Rock Lee has true Raw spped, wihtout gates ir weights or ninjutsu. Rock Lee is actually really awesome. I would like to see his raw speed against The Raikage's raw speed.
Itachi Namikaze
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Well in terms of raw speed, Minato still wins. He is insanely fast even without FTG, way more so than normal Lee or Raikage without raiton armor.
blazekev90
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Omg some of the same ppl are still tryin to prove their point, ugh. Minato may have been faster but who cares, there is only one living now and that's all that matters!
Minato had Raw speed. was faster then Raikage .
Raw speed has it's weaknesses .
Fast speed + a follow through hit (attacks requiring more hip movement , like a left Cross, )
Raikage charged into Minato, was off balanced from not conecting his attack, that prolly less then 1/100th of a second was a good enough opening for minato to counter.
Think of Mefun ( Ninutsu won't work on him cause of his Ai . The only opening he needs is when a ninja goes to form seals )
also think back to Kakashi Gaiden,
Kakashi charged str8 in with Chidori, when Minato warned him not too.
OffT, Mefun vs Minato I would like to see.
Minato is not dumb enough to charge str8 in with out knowing what he is getting into.
Mefun attacked Hanzous' just as he was about to make a hand seal.
I think Minato would win, but would be a nice Kunai vs Sword fight.
Raw speed has it's weaknesses .
Fast speed + a follow through hit (attacks requiring more hip movement , like a left Cross, )
Raikage charged into Minato, was off balanced from not conecting his attack, that prolly less then 1/100th of a second was a good enough opening for minato to counter.
Think of Mefun ( Ninutsu won't work on him cause of his Ai . The only opening he needs is when a ninja goes to form seals )
also think back to Kakashi Gaiden,
Kakashi charged str8 in with Chidori, when Minato warned him not too.
OffT, Mefun vs Minato I would like to see.
Minato is not dumb enough to charge str8 in with out knowing what he is getting into.
Mefun attacked Hanzous' just as he was about to make a hand seal.
I think Minato would win, but would be a nice Kunai vs Sword fight.
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Ultimatevirus
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let me xplain u guys difference between mass and weight,,,
as per science weight=mass of the body*acceleration due to gravty of the earth on any body above the earth...
as per science weight=mass of the body*acceleration due to gravty of the earth on any body above the earth...
xXxBraveShadowxXx
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Tool comes from outside the body.
Seals on Ninja weapons.
Is not something that comes from the ninja body unless you see ninjas pooping Kunais and seals. (Which I hope you don't)
Minato Wasn't fast enough so he developed a way to get faster but teleporting himself by using summoning seals to summon himself places.
Upon summoning himself a yellow flash appeared. (Thats how he got the nickname)
Now A is faster with Raw strength from within without using any TOOLS or OUTSIDE FORCE. BUT Minato is faster with using tools and outside forces.
Seals on Ninja weapons.
Is not something that comes from the ninja body unless you see ninjas pooping Kunais and seals. (Which I hope you don't)
Minato Wasn't fast enough so he developed a way to get faster but teleporting himself by using summoning seals to summon himself places.
Upon summoning himself a yellow flash appeared. (Thats how he got the nickname)
Now A is faster with Raw strength from within without using any TOOLS or OUTSIDE FORCE. BUT Minato is faster with using tools and outside forces.
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Chocolate Thunder
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The important part of the FTG technique is the seal itself correct? the seal comes from minato's body and he is capable of placing it on a kunai or directly onto an enemy as we saw in kakashi gaiden.
xXxBraveShadowxXx
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Well Seal are neither written or formed. FTG is the combination of the seal and activating it. It's activated by chakra like most seals are. So no It's not a part of him.
It's like a tattoo on a person. Yes the tattoo is on them but it's not a part of them. They weren't genetically born with that.
Minato wasn't born knowing how to make these seals. THEY CAME FROM LEARNING OUTSIDE FORCE. (Ink, Paper, Ninja Teachers)
Anything In the world of Naruto that has to do with Chakra Is born with the Ninja.
So Using FTG would be a Tool. Came from matreials from outside and inside.
Raw power ONLY counts when it comes from the Inside and not the outside.
Amanwithnoplan
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Just like A had to learn how to use his Lighting Armour.
The Armour is a tool because it helps him by increasing reflexes, speed, etc...
The Lighting Armour isn't even on the inside. He creates an outside force that increase his abilities ergo it's a tool.
Would people please let this die? Every opinion in the universe is tucked in the pages. If you really think that A's isn't a tool then I suggest you read the 30 pages of posts.
xXxBraveShadowxXx
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Think of what your saying first.
Chakra INSIDE a Ninjas body.
Lighting type Chakra
The Chakra comes onto the outside as armor.
INSIDE EFFECTING OUTSIDE
That power comes from within WITHOUT OUTSIDE FORCE.
UNlike Minato who had to learn the symbols or create them on paper and use people, walls, trees, Kunais Ect, for his Justu to even work. HE NEEDS TOOLS OUTSIDE FORCES, A doesn't he only has Himself and his Chakra.
END OF STORY.
Kyuubikiller
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lol Minato is faster. It makes me laugh to here people trying to give reasons why A's raiton armor is his raw speed, when it's not. Raw speed is what it is, raw, unchanged, untouched, un-manipulated, un-anything!! It has to be raw. Minato has incredible speed without FTG, so both of them in their raw speed, i'm sure Minato is faster, but I don't really know how fast A is with his raw speed, so I can't really make a good assumption, but lets get this straight, his raiton armor is NOT his raw speed, and there's nothing that can convince me otherwise unless Kishi says so himself. smdh
And you don't think tp (FTG) tech. need a large amount of speed to be used? and speed doesn't use chakra?
In other words you think anyone can learn FTG and use it, as it doesn't come from inside but outside. So maybe Chouji can learn as he would have trees, ppl, walls and what not outside his force for it to be successful?
I'll tell you right now people called him the yellow flash due to speed like we seen Naruto when he attacked Kisame. Bee and Yamato said it was like a yellow flash but Yamato said he wasn't quit at the lvl of the 4th, now Naruto didn't use FTG so the title yellow flash wasn't given from FTG but his speed and FTG is a tech. due to his speed he is able to teleport himself because his speed is the key to get the jutsu working, to top it off A said "Minato was faster" he didn't complain about FTG or anything so I don't get why you guys are going on about it.
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10 Mins in you see Kakashi and that random ninja about to clash (Kakashi was about to get split in half) Minato gets in the middle of battle dodging and escaping both attacks at the same time mark that guy with FTG and yet you believe he isn't fast or isn't at Raikage lvl with speed.
Now END OF STORY.
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TotallyAlex
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I already made all those points about 200 posts ago, these guys are unable to see valid arguments, all they see is the fact that Minato is popular and think it makes them cool to bash him, No matter how many times someone makes a point crushing their argument, they'll just change the topic and come back to it again later when the people who actually know what they are talkin about get bored and leave.
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