[Discussion] A's raw speed & Minato's raw speed

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Sorry the "Hanzo" part I didn't get, don't remember him being known for teleport speed and stuff, but anyways Tobirama Senju was known for it as well, as acknowledge by Minato himself for being skilled with it.
His teleport wasn't that famous. If you go back to his little confrontation with Yahiko and Nagato when he had Konan in his possession and made Nagato kill Yahiko, the final hit Nagato was going to get on Hanzo made a seal and escaped no one knew if he actually teleported or if he died their but once he got summoned by Kabuto it was clear that he most likely teleported as after he escaped Nagato he then got caught by Pein (Nagato) when he had his flashback VS the Samurai guy. (Not gonna say 100% was a tp but seems like it was, he pretty much disappeared).
 

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His teleport wasn't that famous. If you go back to his little confrontation with Yahiko and Nagato when he had Konan in his possession and made Nagato kill Yahiko, the final hit Nagato was going to get on Hanzo made a seal and escaped no one knew if he actually teleported or if he died their but once he got summoned by Kabuto it was clear that he most likely teleported as after he escaped Nagato he then got caught by Pein (Nagato) when he had his flashback VS the Samurai guy. (Not gonna say 100% was a tp but seems like it was, he pretty much disappeared).
Ah okay, I didn't feel like going back to look for it but I think I remember the disappear thing, so checked Naruto Wiki but didn't see anything on it.
 

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Oh, that's the Body Flicker technique, "Shunshin no Jutsu" means Body Flicker, or well "Shunshin" does, but "Shunshin no Jutsu" means "Body Flicker Technique" which is what he said before he vanished. So yeah he doesn't know any Time-Space Ninjutsu
 
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Oh, that's the Body Flicker technique, "Shunshin no Jutsu" means Body Flicker, or well "Shunshin" does, but "Shunshin no Jutsu" means "Body Flicker Technique" which is what he said before he vanished. So yeah he doesn't know any Time-Space Ninjutsu
i thought body flicker is a space-time jutsu.
 

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I have been telling everyone this before that A is faster than Minato w/o FTG, but nobody believes me.

Lighting Armor - HIS OWN CHAKRA.
FTG - Teleporting because of summoning seals.

Big difference.
"Furthermore, if an object marked with the seal may touch the ground, Minato will immediately know the position of everyone close to the object. This technique also possesses surveillance purposes as he can continuously sense where anyone is as long as the seal is on them. No matter where an opponent is, he arrived directly next to them. The jutsu is also very unique because it requires no use of chakra, due to a special secondary seal that emits the same chakra as him, allowing him to have an instant connection to the area." so as u can see here minato uses FTG and its a jutsu not a seal... yes theres seal mixed in but at the same time he uses jutsu go read on the jutsu as i did sorry dude :):flaw:
 

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i thought body flicker is a space-time jutsu.
Why would Body Flicker be a Space-Time Jutsu? Lol a lot of people know it, we've seen Kakashi use it a lot, and seen even Sasuke use it.

"This jutsu is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed.[2] To an observer, it appears as if the user has teleported. A puff of smoke is occasionally used to disguise the user's movements. It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. The amount of chakra required depends on the overall distance and elevation between the user and the intended destination."
 

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Why would Body Flicker be a Space-Time Jutsu? Lol a lot of people know it, we've seen Kakashi use it a lot, and seen even Sasuke use it.

"This jutsu is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed.[2] To an observer, it appears as if the user has teleported. A puff of smoke is occasionally used to disguise the user's movements. It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. The amount of chakra required depends on the overall distance and elevation between the user and the intended destination."
oooooh i got you i understnd now.
 

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"Furthermore, if an object marked with the seal may touch the ground, Minato will immediately know the position of everyone close to the object. This technique also possesses surveillance purposes as he can continuously sense where anyone is as long as the seal is on them. No matter where an opponent is, he arrived directly next to them. The jutsu is also very unique because it requires no use of chakra, due to a special secondary seal that emits the same chakra as him, allowing him to have an instant connection to the area." so as u can see here minato uses FTG and its a jutsu not a seal... yes theres seal mixed in but at the same time he uses jutsu go read on the jutsu as i did sorry dude :):flaw:
how do you know that naruto wiki or in th manga.
 

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Why would Body Flicker be a Space-Time Jutsu? Lol a lot of people know it, we've seen Kakashi use it a lot, and seen even Sasuke use it.

"This jutsu is a high-speed movement technique, allowing a ninja to move short to long distances at an almost untraceable speed.[2] To an observer, it appears as if the user has teleported. A puff of smoke is occasionally used to disguise the user's movements. It is accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. The amount of chakra required depends on the overall distance and elevation between the user and the intended destination."
^ yup he knows
 

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Oh, that's the Body Flicker technique, "Shunshin no Jutsu" means Body Flicker, or well "Shunshin" does, but "Shunshin no Jutsu" means "Body Flicker Technique" which is what he said before he vanished. So yeah he doesn't know any Time-Space Ninjutsu
I knew you were going to say that.



The same thing was said about the 4th. You see his Kunai which he uses to tp and the random ninja says, "Yellow flash's Shunshin no Jutsu."

I don't know if it's a mistake or that's the way they like to call it but either way, Hanzo had to have teleported I mean Nagato knew he didn't kills him thus killing Hanzo entire family trying to lure him out. Hanzo just vanished Shunshin no Jutsu helps travel at a fast pace dosn't vanish you, unleashed he had some insane speed with his Shunshin no Jutsu no dodge a head on attack.
 
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I knew you were going to say that.



The same thing was said about the 4th. You see his Kunai which he uses to tp and the random ninja says, "Yellow flash's Shunshin no Jutsu."

I don't know if it's a mistake or that's the way they like to call it but either way, Hanzo had to have teleported I mean Nagato knew he didn't kills him thus killing Hanzo entire family trying to lure him out. Hanzo just vanished Shunshin no Jutsu helps travel at a fast pace dosn't vanish you, unleashed he had some insane speed with his Shunshin no Jutsu no dodge a head on attack.
Weird, no idea if it's a mistake or not, in the Anime, Rin calls it the Body Flicker too.
 

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dudeeeeeeeeeee they already closed this topic with minato being faster than A in the manga why the hell are u renewing the topic. To me this feels like obito is tobi posts which is extremely useless. a good question would be what would you think itachi gave naruto as a power but this is just a new level of lame sorry guys.
 

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I really hate trolls like Supa.
Supa, please tell us what you mean by raw. Because in my opinion raw speed is the speed of the ninja without ninjutsu.

Ninjutsu refers to any technique that utilizes chakra and allows the user to perform actions that a normal person otherwise would be incapable of doing.

FTG and lightning release armor are both ninjutsu. It has been stated by A that Minato's speed is extraordinary even without his FTG.

So either way Minato is faster. Now please stop trolling. I am in no way a Raikage or Minato fan. I am strictly a Madara/Sasuke/Naruto fan.
 
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