American feminism is about superiority, not equality

[Shadow Phantasm]

How? After "affirmative consent" the notion of rape should be gone, no?

Logically yes,but radical feminists don't like logic.

To them even looking at a woman is rape,so *** between two consenting adults would rev up their witch hunt machines and get their media handlers to ruin the poor fool.

We've already seen how they are willing to fabricate rape stories to serve their agenda,now imagine that happening more often with the Yes Means Yes law.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Some people actually do this you know,celebrities and rich folks often have the women they about to sleep with sign a waiver.

I don't doubt the possibility of regular citizens having to sigh contracts before they get busy.

 

[V h o]

Logically yes,but radical feminists don't like logic.

To them even looking at a woman is rape,so *** between two consenting adults would rev up their witch hunt machines and get their media handlers to ruin the poor fool.

We've already seen how they are willing to fabricate rape stories to serve their agenda,now imagine that happening more often with the Yes Means Yes law.

I'm not following how they can even fabricate this once "affirmative consent" has been made. Rape is only a forced act of ***, the consent pretty much gets rid of the forced part. I don't see how yes means yes is allowing something bad for men, thought it protected them more.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I'm not following how they can even fabricate this once "affirmative consent" has been made. Rape is only a forced act of ***, the consent pretty much gets rid of the forced part. I don't see how yes means yes is allowing something bad for men, thought it protected them more.

All a woman has to do say the word rape and the radfems/MSM will run with it like no tomorrow.

In some ways women have a incredible amount of power regarding that,all it takes is one vindictive girl to ruin someone's reputation.

Look at the UVA case,there was no evidence the victim was even raped or had ***.Yet the media and radical feminists ran with it anyway.Fabricating rape stories is all too common among those that want to push a agenda.

 

[V h o]

All a woman has to do say the word rape and the radfems/MSM will run with it like no tomorrow.

In some ways women have a incredible amount of power regarding that,all it takes is one vindictive girl to ruin someone's reputation.

Look at the UVA case,there was no evidence the victim was even raped or had ***.Yet the media and radical feminists ran with it anyway.Fabricating rape stories is all too common among those that want to push a agenda.

Still not understanding how the yes means yes is at fault for this. Shouldn't it prevent or at least mitigate these accusations since "affirmative consent" has been made? Was sort of positive the law was in men best interest Zzz

 

[slimreaper]

Still not understanding how the yes means yes is at fault for this. Shouldn't it prevent or at least mitigate these accusations since "affirmative consent" has been made? Was sort of positive the law was in men best interest Zzz

Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time.


basically if you are a bad ****, she can say you raped her.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It basically means that if you want to have *** with a woman then you better get some legal protection beforehand,because she can accuse you of raping her even if the *** was completely consensual.

No it doesn't. The Yes Means Yes law basically says that consent must be explicit. If someone is unconscious, asleep, incapitated by drugs, or are unable to communicate with you for whatever reason, then consent cannot be given. Therefore, having *** with someone under these conditions means raping them.

Now you have guys like SlimReaper and ShadowShadow Slayer who are actually upset because the definition and standards of rape is less vague in the law. Disgusting.

Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time.

And here you have someone who believes if you've begun to have *** with someone, and they ask you to stop or that they no longer want it, you can tell them to shut up and keep going. The fact that the concept that someone can take back consent and has the right to stop having *** if they want is a negative thing to you makes you a very disgusting person.

Also, it doesn't mean you have to keep getting consent. It means if you get consent, but the person says they would want to stop before or during the sexual acts, you have to stop.

 

[V h o]

Affirmative consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual activity and can be revoked at any time.


basically if you are a bad ****, she can say you raped her.

What said that Zzz

Yes means yes:|

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

No it doesn't. The Yes Means Yes law basically says that consent must be explicit. If someone is unconscious, asleep, incapitated by drugs, or are unable to communicate with you for whatever reason, then consent cannot be given. Therefore, having *** with someone under these conditions means raping them.

Now you have guys like SlimReaper and ShadowShadow Slayer who are actually upset because the definition and standards of rape is less vague in the law. Disgusting.

And here you have someone who believes if you've begun to have *** with someone, and they ask you to stop or that they no longer want it, you can tell them to shut up and keep going. The fact that the concept that someone can take back consent and has the right to stop having *** if they want is a negative thing to you makes you a very disgusting person.

Also, it doesn't mean you have to keep getting consent. It means if you get consent, but the person says they would want to stop before or during the sexual acts, you have to stop.

Upset?No

Aware of the potential abuses of such a law despite its good intentions?Yes
Spare me the self righteous indignation please,because laws like this are made to be exploited.

What stops a woman from regretting a night of *** for any reason and then accusing the guy she slept with of raping her?The Yes Means Yes law won't do shit if she gives consent and then has a change of heart later.

When you have cases where certain groups falsifying rape statistics and stories to push a agenda,laws like this won't even stop them,in fact they can use it to their advantage.

Because as the UVA story shows,you don't even have to have *** to accuse someone of rape.

 

[slimreaper]

No it doesn't. The Yes Means Yes law basically says that consent must be explicit. If someone is unconscious, asleep, incapitated by drugs, or are unable to communicate with you for whatever reason, then consent cannot be given. Therefore, having *** with someone under these conditions means raping them.

Now you have guys like SlimReaper and ShadowShadow Slayer who are actually upset because the definition and standards of rape is less vague in the law. Disgusting.

And here you have someone who believes if you've begun to have *** with someone, and they ask you to stop or that they no longer want it, you can tell them to shut up and keep going. The fact that the concept that someone can take back consent and has the right to stop having *** if they want is a negative thing to you makes you a very disgusting person.

Also, it doesn't mean you have to keep getting consent. It means if you get consent, but the person says they would want to stop before or during the sexual acts, you have to stop.

the wording of the law means you have to keep getting consent. Its amazing how often you pass your word off as fact with no evidence. I've posted the actual text of the law. I'm not sayingif she says stop keep going, i'm saying if she doesn't say stop she can wrongfully charge you with rape. I've never met anyone as selfhatingly liberal as you. It's disgusting.

What said that Zzz

Yes means yes:|

the law said that

 

[Punk Hazard]

Upset?No

Aware of the potential abuses of such a law despite its good intentions?Yes
Spare me the self righteous indignation please,because laws like this are made to be exploited.

What stops a woman from regretting a night of *** for any reason and then accusing the guy she slept with of raping her?The Yes Means Yes law won't do shit if she gives consent and then has a change of heart later.

When you have cases where certain groups falsifying rape statistics and stories to push a agenda,laws like this won't even stop them,in fact they can use it to their advantage.

Because as the UVA story shows,you don't even have to have *** to accuse someone of rape.

Literally all the law does is define rape. Whether or not this law exists, you can always falsely accuse someone of rape the way you're describing. The law doesn't make it any easier to do so.

Since you have such a problem with the law, what's the alternative that you suggest?

the wording of the law means you have to keep getting consent. Its amazing how often you pass your word off as fact with no evidence. I've posted the actual text of the law. I'm not sayingif she says stop keep going, i'm saying if she doesn't say stop she can wrongfully charge you with rape. I've never met anyone as selfhatingly liberal as you. It's disgusting.
the law said that

What part of the law specifically implies or states this? Since it's so obvious, you'd have no problem pointing it out.

And no, you've presented evidence of little to nothing. You've been a pro of posting opinions, and terrible ones at that, as fact. For example, you said the law places responsibility on men. When I pointed out that the law doesn't specificy gender, and therefore applies to all of them, you failed to explain how it targeted men.

And I thought you were gonna stop arguing Mr. I'm tired of this debate. What happened?

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Literally all the law does is define rape. Whether or not this law exists, you can always falsely accuse someone of rape the way you're describing. The law doesn't make it any easier to do so.

Since you have such a problem with the law, what's the alternative that you suggest?

The problem is some people have their own definition of rape.

For example looking at a woman is rape.

Having consensual *** is rape.

And the fact that this law was made in California;the place where the nutjobs that say the above congregate doesn't fill me with confidence that this law won't be abused in some way.

 

[slimreaper]

Literally all the law does is define rape. Whether or not this law exists, you can always falsely accuse someone of rape the way you're describing. The law doesn't make it any easier to do so.

Since you have such a problem with the law, what's the alternative that you suggest?

It re-defines rape to mean if she decides the next day you didn't asking her until the bitter end for permission (she doen't have to say anything) you are now legally a *** offender under this law. That is ****ed up

 

[Punk Hazard]

The problem is some people have their own definition of rape.

For example looking at a woman is rape.

Having consensual *** is rape.

And the fact that this law was made in California;the place where the nutjobs that say the above congregate doesn't fill me with confidence that this law won't be abused in some way.

This makes such little sense. You just tried to say the problem with the law that specifies explicitly what rape is universally is that it allows for people's vague, generalized and wrong definitions to be used? What??? But anyways, that's why there's a law that defines what rape is, which is Yes Means Yes. So that nutjobs you speak of can't ruin someone's life with their twisted accusations.

Please explain in a scenario how someone can abuse this law using what the law says specifically.

It re-defines rape to mean if she decides the next day you didn't asking her permission until the bitter end for permission (she doen't have to ssy anything) you are now legally a *** offender under this law. That is ****ed up

Lmao what? Idk if it's the grammar or the meaning you're trying to get across itself, but this makes no sense. Can you rephrase?

 

[slimreaper]

Literally all the law does is define rape. Whether or not this law exists, you can always falsely accuse someone of rape the way you're describing. The law doesn't make it any easier to do so.

Since you have such a problem with the law, what's the alternative that you suggest?

What part of the law specifically implies or states this? Since it's so obvious, you'd have no problem pointing it out.

And no, you've presented evidence of little to nothing. You've been a pro of posting opinions, and terrible ones at that, as fact. For example, you said the law places responsibility on men. When I pointed out that the law doesn't specificy gender, and therefore applies to all of them, you failed to explain how it targeted men.

And I thought you were gonna stop arguing Mr. I'm tired of this debate. What happened?

You already quoted me using words directly from the law's text on this page. Post 72

 

[Punk Hazard]

You already quoted me using words directly from the law's text on this page. Post 72

Ahh I see you don't know what you quoted means. That doesn't mean that if you're having *** with someone, they need to say over and over "I want to have *** with you." It means that a person can change their mind, and if they make it clear to you that they have, you should stop. It also means that if you try to do something and they ask you not to, then you can't. For example, if a man asks for **** after she's agreed to vaginal intercourse and she says no, then you can't do ****. Or if she asks to stick something up his butt and he says no, then she can't do it. There's literally nothing about this any decent person should have a problem with. You're actually against this because it makes it harder for people to get away with rape. The law is going "This is what rape is" and you're going "Why do you have to be so specific, now it's easier to identify rape." The law isn't ****ed up, you're ****ed up.

 

[slimreaper]

Ahh I see you don't know what you quoted means. That doesn't mean that if you're having *** with someone, they need to say over and over "I want to have *** with you." It means that a person can change their mind, and if they make it clear to you that they have, you should stop. It also means that if you try to do something and they ask you not to, then you can't. For example, if a man asks for **** after she's agreed to vaginal intercourse and she says no, then you can't do ****. Or if she asks to stick something up his butt and he says no, then she can't do it. There's literally nothing about this any decent person should have a problem with. You're actually against this because it makes it harder for people to get away with rape. The law is going "This is what rape is" and you're going "Why do you have to be so specific, now it's easier to identify rape." The law isn't ****ed up, you're ****ed up.

You must be hazy on what the words "ongoing throughout" mean. If at any point the next day she decides that at some point during your sexual intercourse she wasn't happy with something you did ( but didn't expressly oppose said action) you are now in California law a rapist. That is the law, stop trying to argue with facts

 

[Punk Hazard]

You must be hazy on what the words "ongoing throughout" mean. If at any point the next day she decides that at some point during your sexual intercourse she wasn't happy with something you did ( but didn't expressly oppose said action) you are now in California law a rapist. That is the law, stop trying to argue with facts

That's the way you interpreted. It's the wrong one if you ask me, and probably the courts and upholders of California law, but yours nonetheless. It says more about you than it does the law.

 

[slimreaper]

That's the way you interpreted. It's the wrong one if you ask me, and probably the courts and upholders of California law, but yours nonetheless. It says more about you than it does the law.

Even so it's definition of rape is still ****ed up. If a girl (or boy but lets be real) has even a single shot of just regular alcohol, and grabs you and says " do me", you are now a rapist in california if she wants you to be. Instead of a false accusation, you are now a rapist until you can prove otherwise

 

[Punk Hazard]

Even so it's definition of rape is still ****ed up. If a girl (or boy but lets be real) has even a single shot or just regular alcohol, and grabs you and says " do me", you are now a rapist in california if she wants you to be. Instead of a false accusation, you are now a rapist until you can prove otherwise

Yea, that's not true. It says incapacitated, get your selective reading and wording out of here.