How does one measure equality? Feminism by definition seeks female superiority because you can't measure equality. Spare me the bullshit of "feminists fight for men too".
They continue to fight for equal pay even though it has been established that they get paid the same as men
the yes means yes law forces all the responsibility on men. Did you know in that law it states that if the girl has had any alcohol, she can't give consent? How the **** can males drink and make decisions, but women can't?
It's quite obvious that you can't measure equality, yet feminists keep pushing for "equality" which means superiority. Its in the definition " the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men". You've acknowledged that there is nothing left to fight for, yet feminists can't see equality and won't until they are clearly above men.
As for the hitting thing... you are arguing against self defense. I'd bet if you saw a woman get laid out in the street by a man defending himself, you would react in a way that's negative towards the male. But if you saw a woman ko a dude in self defense you'd applaud.
Keep on white knighting though dude. Self respect eludes you
This just shows your inability and inadequacy to be in this debate because of your immaturity. You're being told by an actual person who's an actual feminist that they fight for men too, and you're going "Nope, don't tell me that." You didn't make thread to have an active discussion and be open-minded to what the feminists have to say, you made this thread to dismiss what we have to say while reaching-around others who think like you to reinforce your own beliefs.
Yeah, you don't stop fighting for something once you get it. You fight to establish, then fight to maintain. It's like a house. You work hard to build the house, then you work hard to maintain the house and keep it in good condition. If you just ignore and neglect it completely because you've built it already, then its conditions worsens to the point where it falls apart. If no one cared about equal pay between men and women and just stopped talking about it, someone will eventually ignore paying men and women equally and the problem just comes back.
That doesn't just apply to rape. Alcohol inhibits your ability to function both physically and mentally. That's why it's advised not to drink at all when you drive, because even a little bit of alcohol can hinder your ability to drive safely. It's why pilots don't drink before doing a flight. Even a little bit of alcohol in their system can get the people in both of these scenarios in major trouble. What I'm trying to get across is that one is not in the same state of mind when they have consumed alcohol. The things one decides to say or do with alcohol in their system may not be the same thing they'll decide to say and do without it. And differs from person to person. Some people can handle their alcohol and be the same, and some people can't. Since the law can't vary with case to case as that would destroy the point of a law, it is played safe and they rule it as any alcohol.
"The yes means yes law forces all responsibility on me"
This is what the law says:
A policy that, in the evaluation of complaints in the disciplinary process, it shall not be a valid excuse that the accused believed that the complainant affirmatively consented to the sexual activity if the accused knew or reasonably should have known that the complainant was unable to consent to the sexual activity under any of the following circumstances:
(A) The complainant was asleep or unconscious.
(B) The complainant was incapacitated due to the influence of drugs, alcohol, or medication, so that the complainant could not understand the fact, nature, or extent of the sexual activity.
(C) The complainant was unable to communicate due to a mental or physical condition.
Not only does it say incapacitated and not any alcohol, but no gender is specified. It does not say these are the conditions in which a woman is raped, it says these are the conditions of every single person. This applies to men raping women, women raping women, women raping men or men raping men. The fact that you hear "rape" and automatically link to the rapist and women to the victim just says more about you and the status of rape in the country you live in, which I'm assuming is America.
No, equality can't be measured, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That simple means there is no limit or extent to equality. The fact that feminists say women and men should be considered equal means ANYTHING a feminist fights for for women automatically applies to men as well. Even if you see a feminist say "Women should have these rights", then it automatically means men have those rights as well. If they say otherwise, then they are not really feminists. Saying feminists are bad because of people like that who wrongfully apply the term to them is fallible. If I say "I am a fireman" without actually being a fireman, I'm just calling myself that, then I express I don't know how to operate a firetruck, does that mean firemen are now bad at operating the firetruck? No, it means I have no business calling myself a fireman, just like the people you're describing have no business calling themselves a feminist.
No, that's very presumptuous of you. I've said time and time again, both in real life and on here in threads that you could find, that I support everyone being able to resort to physical force against anyone who attacks you. I've argued against people who say a men should never hit a woman, and I've maintained that if I need to hit a woman in self-defense, I would without hesitation. Next time, find out the facts, don't assume.
