alone against these israeli soldiers, armed with courage, shot in the back

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Butthurt hypocrite.

When america involves in other countries, people say " they should stay out of outhers bussines"

When they don't involve people are mad they don't help?
No one's mad at America for NOT helping! America should mind her own business! The world is crying because of America which is full of evil people trying to look good!
 
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He was a prince. That's all. If the movie said he lead armies, link me please. I would like to check it out.

If one is to believe Buddhist tales ,the man lead an extremely sheltered life and didn't even know what a cripple is or what old age does to someone or that people die. When he came across these three for the first time in life as an adult he was shocked and realized he had been living in a false world and left to gain knowledge by himself. Whether this tale is to be taken literally or not it negates the idea of him getting in armed fight even, let alone leading an army.
No it didn't say he led armies. But it would make sense that he would have a band of horsemen or small army under his command. Most princes do in preparations for leading as King, which he was thought to be the next. Till he saw the darker aspects of life, etc.

Assuming it's all true of course.

Hmm he was a prince but age of 29[if i remember correctly] but after seeing sufferings of people in his kingdom he left to gain enlightment
I think he was in his 30's but I'm not exactly sure. But that's the gist of it from what I saw.
 
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No it didn't say he led armies. But it would make sense that he would have a band of horsemen or small army under his command. Most princes do in preparations for leading as King, which he was thought to be the next. Till he saw the darker aspects of life, etc.

Assuming it's all true of course.
You shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. His kingdom might not even be a kingdom per se... Since Shakya had a republic/oligarchy( as many other small " kingdoms" of the time) system rather than a monarchy many historians believe his father was an elected chief rather than a monarch.
 

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You shouldn't jump to conclusions like that. His kingdom might not even be a kingdom per se... Since Shakya had a republic/oligarchy( as many other small " kingdoms" of the time) system rather than a monarchy many historians believe his father was an elected chief rather than a monarch.
I meant it more as a possibility than a certainty. But I did assume they were monarchs, since the documentary said he was going to be the next King. And that his wife at the time was pregnant with a future Prince.
 

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I meant it more as a possibility than a certainty. But I did assume they were monarchs, since the documentary said he was going to be the next King. And that his wife at the time was pregnant with a future Prince.
Well Buddhist sources call him a king I think.



He was born almost 500 years before Christ. And all the major Buddhist centers were destroyed when invaders came in 11 century and around. Libraries were burned down...Universities ransacked. So the history was already sketchy and whatever there was, most of it is gone.
 
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That doesn't mean that Christianity and Judaism aren't also autistic, that just means Islam is just autistic and violent
I dont understand the point of these quotes. The second and third one state that disbelievers will be punished which all religions believe. As for the first one tbh I have nothing to say, there is plenty of stuff about that quote and im not going to bother writing an explanation which you can find on the internet. I love people who like to believe that Arabs follow Islam. Arabs (not all) are the most arrogant, hypocritical people I know. Just look at how the Kings and princes behave and you will know how much they follow Islam.

As for this conflict I am not really aware of what exactly happened. Anybody can correct me if I am wrong but after WWII the UN gave the Jews Israel but they started to expand and take over parts that were not given to them? Is that right? I know its probably not as black and white as that and I dont have time to read about everything.
 

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I dont understand the point of these quotes. The second and third one state that disbelievers will be punished which all religions believe. As for the first one tbh I have nothing to say, there is plenty of stuff about that quote and im not going to bother writing an explanation which you can find on the internet. I love people who like to believe that Arabs follow Islam. Arabs (not all) are the most arrogant, hypocritical people I know. Just look at how the Kings and princes behave and you will know how much they follow Islam.

As for this conflict I am not really aware of what exactly happened. Anybody can correct me if I am wrong but after WWII the UN gave the Jews Israel but they started to expand and take over parts that were not given to them? Is that right? I know its probably not as black and white as that and I dont have time to read about everything.
Woah, when did I state anything about Arabs? Nice generalizing of a race though man. I have some arab friends and they're cool people my man.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this
The point in these quotes is to point out that Islam is a violent religion which tells its followers to fight,kill, and persecute people of other religions. Terrorists use this to justify their killings. That doesn't mean I can't pull stupid shit out of the other two religions though.
 

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Fail logic is fail. I'm not a German, I live in Germany. And let's not forget that Hitler sympathized with the Islam and worked with Mohammed amin al-husseini, a radical, islamic, Palestinian Anti-Semite. All canon. Hitler clearly stated that his ideology is very similar with the Islam and the Islam is a better religion than Christianity.

The Islamic writings clearly say that Jews are an inferior race and need to be killed.

That doesn't only apply to Jews. They massacred Yazidis as well. All Kurds were former Yazidis, until Muslims came, massacred a lot of them and forced them to convert to Islam.

That's what Islamic countries and Hamas do now with Israel. A highly barbaric act. That's why the world is sick of Islam. Because with Islam, terror comes.
How can Arabs be anti-Semitic if they're Semites? Unless, you mean to say that Jews are their own race, and if so, then you'd be contradicting what they tell us.

:sdo:

I've heard of this "Hitler sympathized with Islam". It's funny because at the end of the day, Hitler was a Christian.

The prophet Muhammad lived among the Jews so your claims of them needing to be killed is idiotic.

Woah, when did I state anything about Arabs? Nice generalizing of a race though man. I have some arab friends and they're cool people my man.











The point in these quotes is to point out that Islam is a violent religion which tells its followers to fight,kill, and persecute people of other religions. Terrorists use this to justify their killings. That doesn't mean I can't pull stupid shit out of the other two religions though.
For every quote you can find on killing in the Qur'an, you can find a quote that says to be peaceful, lol. The same goes for every other religion like Judaism, and Christianity. People deny the Old Testament's punishment because in one verse in the new testament it says you don't have to follow it. While in another verse it says you do. It's ridiculous.

At the end of the day, it depends on the people, and not the religion. I'll give you an example: Right now, there are Buddhists killing minority Christians and Muslims in horrible ways, yet Buddhism is very pacifistic in nature. Isn't that funny?

You have to think, what causes Muslims to resort to such hate and violence, because generally, people who know only peace, will not go towards such extreme and hateful paths. Perhaps, it's the violence in their nations that gives them a kill or be killed mentality, who knows? In the Middle-East, you can find Muslims without beards, who don't pray or fast, who sin all the time, but will kill others who "sin". And believe me, this is a large portion of people who do this. If Islam was so important to them, obviously they'd address the things in Islam that are stressed more like prayer, but they don't. It really makes you think.
 
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The point in these quotes is to point out that Islam is a violent religion which tells its followers to fight,kill, and persecute people of other religions. Terrorists use this to justify their killings. That doesn't mean I can't pull stupid shit out of the other two religions though.
Those verses you quoted exist because of the persecution Muhammad and Muslim community faced from the tribes of Arabia. Let me help you with historical lessons.

"Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you; so fulfil their agreement to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves those who keep their duty." (Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 4).
This is a verse from the Quran that talks about the peace treaty the Prophet Muhammad signed with the tribes of Arabia, who some were Jewish, Christian and other religions. The peace treaty was called: Constitution of Medina. You can read about it below:



"How (can it be)? And if they prevail against you, they respect neither ties of relationship nor covenant in your case. They would please you with their mouths while their hearts refuse; and most of them are transgressors." (Holy Quran, Chapter 9, Verse 8).
The tribes kept violating the peace treaty and betrayed the Muslims constantly. So in regards to those verses you quoted, understand that they were at a specific time - 1,400 years ago - targeted toward a specific groups, who violated the treaty and attacked the Muslims, so the Quran gives a commandment for the Muslims to fight back against those who attack them.

 

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How disgusting you are. Searching for justification for Islamic Terrorists to bomb and kill people on a barbaric way.

That's the mentality of Muslims. Muslims conquered dozens of countries and massacred ethnicities, that's how Islam spread. All the islamic countries were former non-islamic countries until Muslims came, destroyed, killed and suppressed. That's and historical fact.
history is geographical pub...go read before you claim things such as muslims came and destroyed killed or suppressed..... one should even talk about it....

do you even know the rules of muslims wars
1. no one should touch old person, women and children.
2. no tree or public property should be harmed
3. no landscape or religious place should be taken
4. prisoners should be either released on ransom or prisoned...

and i think these are the present rules of the world as well -_- ...yet these rules..what Muslims introduced.....

"search/learn before you speak"

Woah, when did I state anything about Arabs? Nice generalizing of a race though man. I have some arab friends and they're cool people my man.











The point in these quotes is to point out that Islam is a violent religion which tells its followers to fight,kill, and persecute people of other religions. Terrorists use this to justify their killings. That doesn't mean I can't pull stupid shit out of the other two religions though.
totally false buddy...and you are decephiring the texts of HOLY QURAN wrong buddy....
it is written in ISLAM not to attack any country or other's terriortry unless they are harm to you or they start war with you.....and by killing it means kill them not in battle...as soon the battle/war ends quit killing them and behave them properly, and there are also texts about that in HOLY QURAN ......

you are only showing that part of islam that you want to show.... just take an example here....

jhon and sameer are very good friends, one day another guy came and said that he will beat jhon very bad, sameer replies "i will kill you if you will touch my friend"

now what you are doing is showing this text only
"i will kill you if you will touch my friend"

QURAN NEVER TELL US TO START WAR....but it do says to keep yourself prepared for war anytime,but do not start it

Those verses you quoted exist because of the persecution Muhammad and Muslim community faced from the tribes of Arabia. Let me help you with historical lessons.



This is a verse from the Quran that talks about the peace treaty the Prophet Muhammad signed with the tribes of Arabia, who some were Jewish, Christian and other religions. The peace treaty was called: Constitution of Medina. You can read about it below:





The tribes kept violating the peace treaty and betrayed the Muslims constantly. So in regards to those verses you quoted, understand that they were at a specific time - 1,400 years ago - targeted toward a specific groups, who violated the treaty and attacked the Muslims, so the Quran gives a commandment for the Muslims to fight back against those who attack them.

Agreed.....and like i said..hes only try to read or show..what he wants to see or show everyone...
 
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Butthurt muslim spotted.

OT: He certainly does have alot of courage especially when israel is known for killing civilians. Both parties are wrong IMO the israelis aren't wrong since they for all I know are not part of this unless they vote for parties that want to **** up palestinians and other minorities. Only the Israeli Government is wrong with their expanding drift towards palestine.

On the other hand palestinians also have a big part that is also ****ed up and with this shit. Killing civilians on the street with knives the last 3 weeks. And before that too + many of them support hamas and other extremist parties that want death to Israel.

IMO all palestinians should BTFO of Israel even jerusalem and Israel should give them gaza and other land that they stole back. I don't mean what they got after ww2 but the parts that are illegal stolen.
Im not a muslim im an agnostic lmao.

Just wanted to point that out, anyways I have no time to read your retarded reply since im on mobile.
 

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i'm talking about israel not jews..
who do you think live in Israel? do you know why and how the country was created in the first place? after ww2 the allies created Israel for jews to live so they could have their own country to protect them. idk if your aware but 7million jews were killed by the Nazis. Israel is a lone Jewish state surrounded by Muslim countries who all despise them
 

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who do you think live in Israel? do you know why and how the country was created in the first place? after ww2 the allies created Israel for jews to live so they could have their own country to protect them. idk if your aware but 7million jews were killed by the Nazis. Israel is a lone Jewish state surrounded by Muslim countries who all despise them
i'm just saying i don't care if they're jews muslims christains what they do can't be justified because of the holocaust..
 
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