[Discussion] Akainu vs Lé Mihype (Mihawk)

[TheHokage]

They are still rivals. In fact he thinks current Shanks is too weak with the loss of his arm. And he was a Yonko by then. Mihawk knows what he is talking about.

Mihawk takes this high diff.

Actually I'm almost certain it was stated by Oda even with the loss of an arm Shanks did not lose any of his strength.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Actually I'm almost certain it was stated by Oda even with the loss of an arm Shanks did not lose any of his strength.

Oh no I am aware. But Mihawk seemed to look down on it.

 

[ToshiZO]

Oh no I am aware. But Mihawk seemed to look down on it.

Lol alright its official Mihawk is stronger than Yonko Shanks, making him possibly the strongest character in One Piece. You realize Mihawk is one of those Bushido code type of dudes, he didn't want to fight Shanks when he lost an arm. Not that it would make a difference, Shanks would mid diff him, only if they were fighting pure swordsmanship would it be a really close battle (like they used to fight a decade ago....all swordfights) judging from Shanks early on he wasn't that big of a deal since he lost an arm to a sea king. He also got scars from base Blackbeard with no yami yami or gura gura.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

Given the OP, I'm giving mihawk high to extreme diff.

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That LeBron is awesome in that picture. Standing classy and shit.​

 

[crono0929]

Oh no I am aware. But Mihawk seemed to look down on it.

beaten by someone who is missing an arm would be embarrassing.

 

[V h o]

I'm guessing Akainu, he just seem far stronger imo.

 

[Hijey]

How so?
Fleet Admiral > Shichibukai
Luffy's EOS opponent > Zoro's EOS opponent

Mihawk loses in everything including Hype, feats etc.

The only thing he wins at is Swordsmanship

Akainu being Luffy's EOS opponent is something you took right out of your ass, so that doesn't prove anything.

Comparing the feats between the two is irrelevant since it isn't fair because one has many feats and the other has next to none.

Mihawk's hype does not come from being a Warlord. He's the strongest swordsman and the ultimate benchmark for one of the maincharacters.

OT: Mihawk

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Lol alright its official Mihawk is stronger than Yonko Shanks, making him possibly the strongest character in One Piece. You realize Mihawk is one of those Bushido code type of dudes, he didn't want to fight Shanks when he lost an arm. Not that it would make a difference, Shanks would mid diff him, only if they were fighting pure swordsmanship would it be a really close battle (like they used to fight a decade ago....all swordfights) judging from Shanks early on he wasn't that big of a deal since he lost an arm to a sea king. He also got scars from base Blackbeard with no yami yami or gura gura.

I saw it as Mihawk being too prideful to fight a possibly weakened Shanks on any level. I do agree Shanks would beat him. But I do see Mihawk on a level quite close which would be enough to fight on par with Akainu.

 

[Hijey]

Lol alright its official Mihawk is stronger than Yonko Shanks, making him possibly the strongest character in One Piece. You realize Mihawk is one of those Bushido code type of dudes, he didn't want to fight Shanks when he lost an arm. Not that it would make a difference, Shanks would mid diff him, only if they were fighting pure swordsmanship would it be a really close battle (like they used to fight a decade ago....all swordfights) judging from Shanks early on he wasn't that big of a deal since he lost an arm to a sea king. He also got scars from base Blackbeard with no yami yami or gura gura.

lol it's official. You are beyond hopeless. You realize there are a lot of other top tier characters, correct? Mihawk being stronger than Shanks does not mean he is the strongest man in the world. Kaido for instance could be stronger than Big Mom, does that possibly make him the strongest in the world? No, because it's not like we know she's the second strongest etc, like you seem to be implying with Shanks.

What's the difference between pure swordsmanship and someone using a fighting style that involves a sword? Zzz

@ Fireplay, what's up with the poll lol. Trying to start a shitstorm here?

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[ToshiZO]

Akainu being Luffy's EOS opponent is something you took right out of your ass, so that doesn't prove anything.

Comparing the feats between the two is irrelevant since it isn't fair because one has many feats and the other has next to none.

Mihawk's hype does not come from being a Warlord. He's the strongest swordsman and the ultimate benchmark for one of the maincharacters.

OT: Mihawk

See the issue with this....is Mihawk DOES have feats...in the amount of feats he HAS shown he has basically proven himself to be < Admiral level. Its not about having enough feats its about having quality feats. Fujitora barely has any feats but they're already high quality feats because he is Admiral level and they only produce high quality stuff. Same thing for Shanks, you can't make that case for Shanks. AKainu has waaay more feats than Shanks does. yet with the couple feats Shanks has those are enough to powerscale him to WB/ Akainu level. Mihawk = One Piece's Hiruzen.

Btw Akainu is one of the main canditates for EOS opponent, there is a reason he moved higher up the ladder as FA since he's being saved for last. Its clear portrayal he's being made into Luffy's marine EOS opponent, but if you dont think so, Ok, its not really a fact its more highly likely.

lol it's official. You are beyond hopeless. You realize there are a lot of other top tier characters, correct? Mihawk being stronger than Shanks does not mean he is the strongest man in the world. Kaido for instance could be stronger than Big Mom, does that possibly make him the strongest in the world? No, because it's not like we know she's the second strongest etc, like you seem to be implying with Shanks.

What's the difference between pure swordsmanship and someone using a fighting style that involves a sword? Zzz

@ Fireplay, what's up with the poll lol. Trying to start a shitstorm here?

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You realize if Mihawk is > 1 yonkou that makes him the front candidate for PK and strongest in the show, since being > Yonkou means exactly that, as none of the other Yonkous show superiority over the others. Shanks is a haki beast, while Mihawk is pure swordsman skill. Thats the difference. Shanks preferred weapon is a sword, WB isn't a bisento man now is he? Cause he uses a bisento?

 

[crono0929]

Now its a shanks vs mihawk thread.....

Shanks>akainu> mihawk.

 

[Fireplay]

@ Fireplay, what's up with the poll lol. Trying to start a shitstorm here?

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The shitstorm is starting. I'm simply speeding up the process

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See the issue with this....is Mihawk DOES have feats...in the amount of feats he HAS shown he has basically proven himself to be < Admiral level. Its not about having enough feats its about having quality feats. Fujitora barely has any feats but they're already high quality feats because he is Admiral level and they only produce high quality stuff. Same thing for Shanks, you can't make that case for Shanks. AKainu has waaay more feats than Shanks does. yet with the couple feats Shanks has those are enough to powerscale him to WB/ Akainu level. Mihawk = One Piece's Hiruzen.

Btw Akainu is one of the main canditates for EOS opponent, there is a reason he moved higher up the ladder as FA since he's being saved for last. Its clear portrayal he's being made into Luffy's marine EOS opponent, but if you dont think so, Ok, its not really a fact its more highly likely.



You realize if Mihawk is > 1 yonkou that makes him the front candidate for PK and strongest in the show, since being > Yonkou means exactly that, as none of the other Yonkous show superiority over the others. Shanks is a haki beast, while Mihawk is pure swordsman skill. Thats the difference. Shanks preferred weapon is a sword, WB isn't a bisento man now is he? Cause he uses a bisento?

Yes, yes. Your doing well youngling.

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[Avinash012]

Mihawk takes this.

 

[ToshiZO]

Now its a shanks vs mihawk thread.....

Shanks>akainu> mihawk.

It always turns into a Shanks vs Mihawk thread. Btw Im hoping the lot of you are saying Mihawk takes it because of your hate for Akainu as a character and not cause you actually believe it.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Yeah he battled Shanks countless times before he even became a Yonko or even top-tier status. That's irrelevant in this discussion and makes your argument flawed in that sense.

Proof?????

 

[Netferarri]

I think Akainu takes this. The dude is a freaking monster. Can't wait too see him now.

 

[Hexuze]

Proof?????

Mihawk stopped his duels with Shanks ever since the incident. He even said it himself that he doesn't want to fight with a one-armed man.

OT: Now that I think about it, it took literally the strongest WB commanders to face off with Akainu and they couldn't even hurt him or compete with him for that manner. The WB commanders (Jozu/Vista) stopped Mihawk's attacks quite effortlessly so I would assume Akainu can do the same or at least tank it to the same degree. The dude tanked WB's attacks as well.

I change my answer about the pre-TS fight to Akainu high/mid-diff.

 

[Hijey]

See the issue with this....is Mihawk DOES have feats...in the amount of feats he HAS shown he has basically proven himself to be < Admiral level. Its not about having enough feats its about having quality feats. Fujitora barely has any feats but they're already high quality feats because he is Admiral level and they only produce high quality stuff. Same thing for Shanks, you can't make that case for Shanks. AKainu has waaay more feats than Shanks does. yet with the couple feats Shanks has those are enough to powerscale him to WB/ Akainu level. Mihawk = One Piece's Hiruzen.

Btw Akainu is one of the main canditates for EOS opponent, there is a reason he moved higher up the ladder as FA since he's being saved for last. Its clear portrayal he's being made into Luffy's marine EOS opponent, but if you dont think so, Ok, its not really a fact its more highly likely.



You realize if Mihawk is > 1 yonkou that makes him the front candidate for PK and strongest in the show, since being > Yonkou means exactly that, as none of the other Yonkous show superiority over the others. Shanks is a haki beast, while Mihawk is pure swordsman skill. Thats the difference. Shanks preferred weapon is a sword, WB isn't a bisento man now is he? Cause he uses a bisento?

That is correct, but the amount of feats he has is nothing close to that of Akainu which is not fair at all. However, what are you basing his feats being lesser of that of an Admiral on exactly? Oda went out of his way to use his feat and Kizaru's feat in a parralel. Don't also forget the feat which he casually did by slicing the iceberg Aokiji casually made which was casually done by WB. See, Oda is grouping him with the big boys. Why some people ignore this, I will never know. Perhaps it's the hate for the guy? Or maybe him being so such an emo maybe :\

I never denied he is one of the final villians. You said that he is the final one and therefore is stronger than Mihawk(which I would agree with if that was the case). But it isn't because there's also Blackbeard.

How? He is not going for the title of PK. Furthermore, Aokiji is most likely stronger than one of the Emperors, does that make him a candidate for PK and strongest in the show? The Emperors are in stalemate not because of their personal strength but with their allied and crews combined.

That difference would go against Mihawk's title and Zoro's dream though. Haki is not a fighting style, but a supplement. Thus, unless Shanks is like WB, a devil fruit user who uses a weapon, he can't be stronger than Mihawk being a swordsman first and foremost. I personally believe Shanks is not a devil fruit user since he himself said it goes against the way of pirate(something along those lines) but if is, I could see him being stronger because he gives off that vibe.

The shitstorm is starting. I'm simply speeding up the process

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You're a dangerous man.

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Has Mihawk stepped down from your top 3 strongest?

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

How so?
Fleet Admiral > Shichibukai
Luffy's EOS opponent > Zoro's EOS opponent

Mihawk loses in everything including Hype, feats etc.

The only thing he wins at is Swordsmanship

Well... If you put it that way, ill put it this way

Mihawk only is a schibukai because he is a one man team.
He is supposedly on equal footing with a yonko, shanks. The yonko are supposed to be > or = to admirals. So, with your logic, it wouldnt be an easy defeat.

 

[ToshiZO]

Mihawk stopped his duels with Shanks ever since the incident. He even said it himself that he doesn't want to fight with a one-armed man.

OT: Now that I think about it, it took literally the strongest WB commanders to face off with Akainu and they couldn't even hurt him or compete with him for that manner. The WB commanders (Jozu/Vista) stopped Mihawk's attacks quite effortlessly so I would assume Akainu can do the same or at least tank it to the same degree. The dude tanked WB's attacks as well.

I change my answer about the pre-TS fight to Akainu high/mid-diff.

There we go, we're making progress.

That is correct, but the amount of feats he has is nothing close to that of Akainu which is not fair at all. However, what are you basing his feats being lesser of that of an Admiral on exactly? Oda went out of his way to use his feat and Kizaru's feat in a parralel. Don't also forget the feat which he casually did by slicing the iceberg Aokiji casually made which was casually done by WB. See, Oda is grouping him with the big boys. Why some people ignore this, I will never know. Perhaps it's the hate for the guy? Or maybe him being so such an emo maybe :\

I never denied he is one of the final villians. You said that he is the final one and therefore is stronger than Mihawk(which I would agree with if that was the case). But it isn't because there's also Blackbeard.

How? He is not going for the title of PK. Furthermore, Aokiji is most likely stronger than one of the Emperors, does that make him a candidate for PK and strongest in the show? The Emperors are in stalemate not because of their personal strength but with their allied and crews combined.

That difference would go against Mihawk's title and Zoro's dream though. Haki is not a fighting style, but a supplement. Thus, unless Shanks is like WB, a devil fruit user who uses a weapon, he can't be stronger than Mihawk being a swordsman first and foremost. I personally believe Shanks is not a devil fruit user since he himself said it goes against the way of pirate(something along those lines) but if is, I could see him being stronger because he gives off that vibe.

Well Mihawk is far from weak, its just that its hard to argue for him. Mihawk is my favourite Shichibukai but it is really hard to argue for him when he's not been portrayed with the Admirals. The iceburg feats makes him a top tier imo I can tell he is a top tier, but the thing is, no he has not been paired or portrayed alongside the Admirals or the Yonkou. He probably has to mid diff Vista from the looks of things when Akainu would squat Vista away combined with all the WB commanders at the same time. I will ask you? Do you see Oda portray A vista and Akainu clash or stalemate? Not in a million years, Akainu was running over countless mid to high tiers the level of Vista all at the same time, he took on Marco, Vista, Croc, Jimbe, The rest of the commanders easily. He has the ability to one shot characters the likes of Vista and Jimbe while Mihawk wasn't portrayed the same way.

Well... If you put it that way, ill put it this way

Mihawk only is a schibukai because he is a one man team.
He is supposedly on equal footing with a yonko, shanks. The yonko are supposed to be > or = to admirals. So, with your logic, it wouldnt be an easy defeat.

He is not portrayed to be on equal footing with Shanks, if he was he wouldn't be put in the situations he was put in. Being stopped by Jozu, Croc, Vista. From the portrayel given to him he wasn't even worth WB's time as his slash didn't make it to WB. On the other hand Jozu or any other commanders isn't worth Shanks' time, he would directly confront with WB, that much is clear. Do you honestly see Shanks clashing with the likes of Croc and Vista? Itd be a waste of his time to even look at those two. Btw Admirals = Yonkou.