Acknowledgement on the dangers of Gale Palm

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What if she meant it in this way, "I'll get severely injured if I tackle him at base, so the injury-free way is using gale palm". What Madara did with Gokages is toying and Sarada could eliminate the enemy with high diff and not low diff, thats the meaning of the sentence, why take the long route when youve the short route?
True it makes sense to me.
 

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I disagree. When Boruto was referring to his disadvantage here, Sarada was in the background analyzing the opponent while Boruto and Mitsuki were engaging him in combat.

Afterwards they created the Gale Palm to launch her. When her speed's being boosted like that, it gives her a physical advantage. More so, when she's expecting her opponent to attack with her precog.

Nothing indicates that she could dodge him like that normally. So I'm not sure why people keep insinuating that. Both Boruto and Mitsuki were having a hard time even attacking him together, and yet people believe she can dodge his attacks easily?
She has the eyes to read his attacks meaning she can react to his attacks even if its only minimal. The speed boost gave her an advantage attacking wise because she was being propelled into the enemy.

What, and why does that matter in bold? No one said that Boruto could. I only replied Boruto's analysis on his disadvantages which lead to their discussion about flaws/strengths = team work. That's exactly why I said:


to his words.
Seems like the thread could have been made without throwing shade at Sarada. implying anyone of them had the speed to take on the enemy in a 1v1 is silly.


I stated that the ninja being a higher league than Sarada, meant she couldn't combat him easily, and you said if that was the case, what about Shizuma? But that doesn't really make sense.
Yeah but that really doesn't correlate to Shizuma or the other genin ninja. Sarada not having the speed to take this enemy on doesn't mean shes not fast enough to take on Shizuma or the genin ninja from the mist. The logic doesn't really apply here.

Because it took two almost graduating students, and one full fledged Genin (or was he higher?) to take him down. Just like in today's fight, where Team Konohamaru worked together to bring down that no-name.

Even with Gale Palm, Mitsuki had distracted him so Boruto could prep it. And he still got up afterwards.
My statement was questioning your logic in regards to Saradas speed and reaction time. She can keep up with the genin swordsmen in terms of speed. She cannot keep up with the enemy in today's episode but neither could Boruto. Mitsuki had the speed and manueverability because he's Oro's kid.
 

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She has the eyes to read his attacks meaning she can react to his attacks even if its only minimal. The speed boost gave her an advantage attacking wise because she was being propelled into the enemy.


Seems like the thread could have been made without throwing shade at Sarada. implying anyone of them had the speed to take on the enemy in a 1v1 is silly.




Yeah but that really doesn't correlate to Shizuma or the other genin ninja. Sarada not having the speed to take this enemy on doesn't mean shes not fast enough to take on Shizuma or the genin ninja from the mist. The logic doesn't really apply here.



My statement was questioning your logic in regards to Saradas speed and reaction time. She can keep up with the genin swordsmen in terms of speed. She cannot keep up with the enemy in today's episode but neither could Boruto. Mitsuki had the speed and manueverability because he's Oro's kid.
Mitsuki is not even human, he is a robot, comparison of human and robot is off the window.
 

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She has the eyes to read his attacks meaning she can react to his attacks even if its only minimal. The speed boost gave her an advantage attacking wise because she was being propelled into the enemy.
This doesn't make complete sense considering that she dodged the opponent before attacking. The speed propelled her not only gave her an advantage with attacking, but just gave her an overall boost which allowed to her to move faster than normal on all accounts.

Her Sharingan provided a means to see the opponent's attack beforehand, and her analyzing him prior to the combo was efficient in that case.


Seems like the thread could have been made without throwing shade at Sarada. implying anyone of them had the speed to take on the enemy in a 1v1 is silly.
There's been too many Boruto downplay threads, so I needed to pitch on Gale Palm b/c people are sleeping on his abilities for some reason.

No one said that tho in bold.


Yeah but that really doesn't correlate to Shizuma or the other genin ninja. Sarada not having the speed to take this enemy on doesn't mean shes not fast enough to take on Shizuma or the genin ninja from the mist. The logic doesn't really apply here.
But the problem is that Shizuma was casually dealing with Boruto and Mitsuki, and when they were by themselves, Mitsuki was injured. Boruto only stood a chance with Gale Palm, but Shizuma tanked that as well. So I don't understand why the comparisons can't be made.

Shizuma > Boruto, Mitsuki, and Sarada (Minus Sage Mode for Mitsuki per obvious) via individual matches.

Speaking on behalf of that Arc, however. Not current versions of them, just stating that before some moron quotes me lol.





My statement was questioning your logic in regards to Saradas speed and reaction time. She can keep up with the genin swordsmen in terms of speed. She cannot keep up with the enemy in today's episode but neither could Boruto. Mitsuki had the speed and manueverability because he's Oro's kid.
I think the logic holds because Sarada was a week from graduating, and she has the Sharingan. So she should be able to keep up with a Genin's movements, like Boruto and the others who took down Kirigakure's fodders before the Mist Swordsman battle.

But we already saw what happened when Boruto and co fought ninjas on Shizuma's league. Think back, on what happened to Bolt when he tried to match Kagura on his own field.
 

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Didn't you realize that a huge speed raw is also needed to use the teleport? He needs a fast reaction. Lmao.

If you still have doubts, you can see here that Minato didn't use the teleport to save Naruto:

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You mean from Obito throwing him into the sky with no intention of killing him directly, and placing exploding tags on him with so he can kill or eliminate Minato.

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Obito wanting to kill Naruto would've been done with a straight slit. Obito wanted to separate Minato and kushina so he could extract the 9 tails but try again.

Didn't you realise reflect speed isn't foot speed or teleportation for that matter?

Reflex speed is what Bee used to counter FTG(near instant) sneak attack by Minato. There's no way Sasuke was moving as fast as Haku was when he used demonic Ice mirrors but stationary counter is easier so therefore he dodges the attacks. Reflex countering from stationary is a lot easier that's why the argument about Gale Palm is redundant.
 
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You mean from Obito throwing him into the sky with no intention of killing him directly, and placing exploding tags on him with so he can kill or eliminate Minato.

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Obito wanting to kill Naruto would've been done with a straight slit. Obito wanted to separate Minato and kushina so he could extract the 9 tails but try again.

Didn't you realise reflect speed isn't foot speed or teleportation for that matter?

Reflex speed is what Bee used to counter FTG(near instant) sneak attack by Minato. There's no way Sasuke was moving as fast as Haku was when he used demonic Ice mirrors but stationary counter is easier so therefore he dodges the attacks. Reflex countering from stationary is a lot easier that's why the argument about Gale Palm is redundant.
I see you destroyed his argument EFFORTlessly.
 

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Agreed. Some people usually forget that Boruto is the grandchild of the fastest ninja that ever lived: Minato, a.k.a Yellow Flash.

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Minato the fastest ninja? Itachi, Bee, A, Shisui, Tsunade, Sasuke(Hebi, MS, EMS, Rinne) are all tons of times faster than him even when he's using shunshin. Some of these guys are faster when he's using FTG which is not speed but Kamui-like space travel.
 

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I see you destroyed his argument EFFORTlessly.
Thanks bro it was my pleasure.

Minato the fastest ninja? Itachi, Bee, A, Shisui, Tsunade, Sasuke(Hebi, MS, EMS, Rinne) are all tons of times faster than him even when he's using shunshin. Some of these guys are faster when he's using FTG which is not speed but Kamui-like space travel.
Correct people ignore context when they start using terms.
 

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You mean from Obito throwing him into the sky with no intention of killing him directly, and placing exploding tags on him with so he can kill or eliminate Minato.

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Obito wanting to kill Naruto would've been done with a straight slit. Obito wanted to separate Minato and kushina so he could extract the 9 tails but try again.

Didn't you realise reflect speed isn't foot speed or teleportation for that matter?

Reflex speed is what Bee used to counter FTG(near instant) sneak attack by Minato. There's no way Sasuke was moving as fast as Haku was when he used demonic Ice mirrors but stationary counter is easier so therefore he dodges the attacks. Reflex countering from stationary is a lot easier that's why the argument about Gale Palm is redundant.

Well you're right, Obito indeed wanted to split Kushina and Minato. I didn't remember that.

But Minato is the fastest and that's a fact :)
 

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Well you're right, Obito indeed wanted to split Kushina and Minato. I didn't remember that.
Thanks for agreeing.

When you went and found that page from the chapter didn't your read the preceefing and or following pages? :pick:

But Minato is the fastest and that's a fact :)
Him being the fastest is vague and can't be established since you removed the concept of time from it.

Second FTG falls into a different category?

And I think I'm done I'm not interested in massaging my ego.
 

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Well you're right, Obito indeed wanted to split Kushina and Minato. I didn't remember that.

But Minato is the fastest and that's a fact :)
When was he confirmed the fastest in foot speed? The only reason he was called the fastest was due to his FTG mastery, data book clearly says this. He was so fast that Bee almost killed him, he was so fast he had to rely on FTG which consumes high chakras to get away from A, he was so fast ge had to be straight blitzed by mind less Juubito? EMS sasuke with Susano'O reducing his running speed is faster than him, as we saw Sasuke blocking juubito's gudodama before Minato could even finish weaving the hand seals for FTG, he's that fast Mr minato.
 
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Thanks for agreeing.

When you went and found that page from the chapter didn't your read the preceefing and or following pages? :pick:


Him being the fastest is vague and can't be established since you removed the concept of time from it.

Second FTG falls into a different category?

And I think I'm done I'm not interested in massaging my ego.
You're welcome. No I didn't read it again, I just remembered that part :).

Fourth Hokage, Tobirama and Hiruzen stated that Minato has a great speed. And like I said, the transport requires a huge speed. When he was fighting Tobi he did hit Tobi's back before his dematerialization, this guy was pretty fast that's for sure.

I'm done too, I'm not gonna try to change your opinion. You keep your opinion, I keep mine :).
 
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You're welcome. No I didn't read it again, I just remembered that part :).

Fourth Hokage, Tobirama and Hiruzen stated that Minato has a great speed. And like I said, the transport requires a huge speed. When he was fighting Tobi he did hit Tobi's back before his dematerialization, this guy was pretty fast that's for sure.

I'm done too, I'm not gonna try to change your opinion. You keep your opinion, I keep mine :).
Tobi got a last second punched with Rasengan and that was because tobi was controlling the nine tails. Je himself said he underestimated Minato(which means he was holding back his true power).
 
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