Acknowledgement on the dangers of Gale Palm

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The shade and :salt: is real with this thread

OT:Shizuma didn't need samehada to come right back up. nice try though :kk:
Shizuma was in no shape since he was limping and can barely fight so yes he does need samahada to recover but it ended up taking over his body. Funny thing is that Boruto uses Open palm to struck Shizuma to this extent without exerting his chakra unlike any Hyuga who normally emit chakra to shut down with their Gentle Fist or (Chakra Enhance Strength) which also rely on chakra.


Which leads to my next point.

OT: A Gale Palm in conjunction with Sarada Chakra Enhance Strength is an OverKill.
 

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Obviously Sarada doesn't have the speed that boruto has with gale palm. Other than that speed wise she can match both boruto and mitsuki(or react with Sharingan).

But yeah Boruto's gale palm speed boost is pretty fast. Almost caught kakashi with that.
 

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Obviously Sarada doesn't have the speed that boruto has with gale palm. Other than that speed wise she can match both boruto and mitsuki(or react with Sharingan).

But yeah Boruto's gale palm speed boost is pretty fast. Almost caught kakashi with that.
Honestly it's pretty scary how a stupid and easy C-Rank technique can be used so efficiently.

Can you imagine if Naruto or Sasuke utilized Gale Palm, with them already being on godly levels of speed?
 

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If you're saying Sarada can't react to Boruto's gale palm them that's wrong. With Sharingan's help she can dodge gale palm. As confirmed from this episode and against Konohamaru
 

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With what feats?


Sarada in this episode said she doesn't have the speed to match speedsters yet.


Konohamaru used Gale Palm?
So by whatever math law I forget. Sarada can read and react to the shinobi they defeated who in turn is fast enough to react to gale palm. So this episode taught us given those exact same scenarios. Sarada can read and react to gale palm.
 
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Sarada can read and react to the shinobi they defeated
Sarada was looking for holes in his movements, but that's normal. The Sharingan can read movements, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can react to them.

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Sarada later enforces that she couldn't physically react to his movements too, when she was observing his movements from afar.

who in turn is fast enough to react to gale palm.
This doesn't make any sense because the shinobi they overpowered couldn't even react to gale palm. So are you trying to say that Sarada has the ability to dodge/counter/react to Gale Palm, by seeing movements of a shinobi who couldn't even react to Gale Palm?

What?

So this episode taught us given those exact same scenarios. Sarada can read and react to gale palm.
You literally explained why Sarada shouldn't be able to react to gale palm lol.
 

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Sarada was looking for holes in his movements, but that's normal. The Sharingan can read movements, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can react to them.

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Sarada later enforces that she couldn't physically react to his movements too, when she was observing his movements from afar.


This doesn't make any sense because the shinobi they overpowered couldn't even react to gale palm. So are you trying to say that Sarada has the ability to dodge/counter/react to Gale Palm, by seeing movements of a shinobi who couldn't even react to Gale Palm?

What?


You literally explained why Sarada shouldn't be able to react to gale palm lol.
1. Correct me if I'm wrong. "Sarada said I don't have the speed to toy with an opponent." toy not react.

2. The guy the overpowered was able to react to gale palm. He saw it coming, acknowledged it was fast but was quick enough to time his attack and swing at sarada who would have died if she was not able to read his movement (a movement fast enough to react to gale palm) and rotate her body to dodge. If he could not react to gale palm sarada would have just solo'd him, no sharingan or dodging necessary. After he missed he was obviously no longer able to react. So by this she can definitely react to gale palm at that same distance. if gale palm happened right in front of her(distance sarada was to the guy after she dodged) then obviously not.

3. Gale palm is not foot speed. If boruto could physically move(foot speed) at the speed gale palm propels him to, sarada would not be able to read him because he would be making more complex movements than just a straight flight at the opponent. MS sasuke could not follow Raikage who was miles ahead in speed but was still able to react to a basic straight line raikage attack. same thing here, so long as there is no setup if sarada can read someone and react to him(who is able to react to gale palm) then she reads and reacts to gale palm too. lee's speed doesn't matter here, his movements are way more complex than a sword slash or gale palm.
 
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Most ppl that can't counter Gale Palm is just because they don't know how it works. They get caught by surprise.

Sarada knows how it works + sharingan precog. She has many ways to counter it if she wants, genjutsu is one of them.
 

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1. Correct me if I'm wrong. "Sarada said I don't have the speed to toy with an opponent." toy not react.
Yes, and in that context it means she would have a hard time facing that opponent in close quarters. As she wouldn't have breathing room to make mistakes.

2. The guy the overpowered was able to react to gale palm. He saw it coming, acknowledged it was fast but was quick enough to time his attack and swing at sarada who would have died if she was not able to read his movement (a movement fast enough to react to gale palm) and rotate her body to dodge.
Yes, I acknowledge that for sure. But I was speaking on behalf of Boruto's usage of Gale Palm. Whereas Boruto and Mitsuki coupled the technique with themselves (x2),

The third one was mid air.


If he could not react to gale palm sarada would have just solo'd him, no sharingan on dodging necessary. After he missed he was obviously no longer able to react. So by this she can definitely react to gale palm at that same distance, if gale palm happened right in front of her(distance sarada was to the guy after she dodged) then obviously not.
Your argument doesn't make any sense, because:

1. Sharingan can track movements, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can react to what they track. Unless you have physical proof that Sarada could.

You seem to be relying on the fact that "Sarada seeing his movements = reacting" When I already posted this:

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To that end,


3. Gale palm is not foot speed. If boruto could physically move(foot speed) at the speed gale palm propels him to, sarada would not be able to read him because he would be making more complex movements than just a straight flight at the opponent.



MS sasuke could not follow Raikage who was miles ahead in speed but was still able to react to a basic straight line raikage attack.
Sasuke was able to setup counter measures with Susano'o and Amaterasu, I'd hardly compare these situations in regards to a straight line battle.
 

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Most ppl that can't counter Gale Palm is just because they don't know how it works. They get caught by surprise.
1. Gale Palm is just increasing your speed. This doesn't make sense because:

I. Shizuma saw Boruto coming, he countered him mid-air but Boruto unleashed a second Gale Palm which ended his career.
II. The shinobi who faced Gale Palm in today's episode, saw it coming and slashed at Sarada, but she was able to counter mid-air via her Sharingan.

]So they weren't taken down by surprise. In fact, the Gale Palm seems to fail when its being used as a surprise attack, but seems to work more when its being coupled with factors (like shadow clones/Dojutsu). The example to this is when Boruto failed to bring Shizuma down his first time introducing the technique, he landed straight on his ass.



Sarada knows how it works + sharingan precog. She has many ways to counter it if she wants, genjutsu is one of them.
I don't really understand how Sharingan precog = Being able to react to something her betters had a hard time dealing with.

Gale Palm is clutch against stronger tier ninjas, it seems highly unlikely that any shinobi could just counter unless they were just above their speed.

I mean when Boruto used it against Kakashi, Kakashi was surprised, but he reacted to it. However, Boruto wanted that to happen and implanted clones underground beforehand.

The scenario's in which Boruto can formulate Gale Palm to bring his opponents, even if the technique fails to deliver, is limitless.
 

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What I am getting at is that Boruto moves results in tunnel vision since his Gale palm helps amplify the speed at a very fast pace; that's probably why he had Sarada to deliver the blow since her sharingan helps alleviate the risk the same function as how Kakashi chidori works.

Does that mean that Sarada has great reaction speed or perhaps its the act of force and momentum of the gale palm that helped her to outperform her opponent movement with the help of her sharingan. I only ask this because Boruto manages to maneuver his speed and move skillfully where he was able to read Kakashi and Shizuma.
 

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Yes, and in that context it means she would have a hard time facing that opponent in close quarters. As she wouldn't have breathing room to make mistakes.


Yes, I acknowledge that for sure. But I was speaking on behalf of Boruto's usage of Gale Palm. Whereas Boruto and Mitsuki coupled the technique with themselves (x2),

The third one was mid air.



Your argument doesn't make any sense, because:

1. Sharingan can track movements, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can react to what they track. Unless you have physical proof that Sarada could.

You seem to be relying on the fact that "Sarada seeing his movements = reacting" When I already posted this:

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Sasuke was able to setup counter measures with Susano'o and Amaterasu, I'd hardly compare these situations in regards to a straight line battle.
Sasuke was straight up able to dodge a straight line attack and chidori raikage.

Sarada did react to the opponent. she dodged him didnt she? that was her movement not gale palm(rotation). toy doesn't necesarily mean react. she obviously reacted to him so that can't be right. And I assume the speed was referring to boruto but last episode, boruto was too slow and was almost cut down so that also can't be right. Maybe the speed was referring specifically to gale palm, who knows?

And I did mention she would be able to avoid the gale palm scenario shown in this episode. If three clones > 2 clone gale palm then she has no feats for that.

Gale palm(or this episode gale palm) can't be used as foot speed because boruto has to make clones to be at the fastest speed. With just him, it would be slower than with 2 clones even.
 

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Yeah apparently gale palm is a KKG and mitsuki can't do it :kk:
Sarada having kage bunshin isn't a problem too. she can only do one so...

Your post is a bait and shouldn't be taken seriously and also not filler
:lmao: Quit that lying.

I literally asked it on the bottom on a side note. If you read the thread from the top you would see that I'm pointing to the display at full force.

I don't think GP based on the feats, is something that easy to counter. Ninjas on stronger leagues than Boruto's generation have fell to its grasp.

That's all.


Gale Palm is actually in the data-book/volume-book for Bolt
Not Mitsuki.
 

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Filler is filler. Sarada said she doesnt have the speed to toy with her enemy, which means fighting effortlessly. She has to use some of her real strength to fight a fast enemy. The misconstruction of that line is real. We know fanbase mentality.
 
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