Absolute Proof That The Uzumakis Were Not Descendants of The Senjus

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Some have insisted that the Uzumakis were a derived branch of the Senjus based on Nagato's statement here:

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However this is the original text:

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I have consulted with a professional translator and I have finally confirmed that the word Zetsu used was "blood relative"
not "Lineage" or "Descendant" as some have insisted

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Did you ever wonder why Kushina only referred to the Senjus as their relatives and not the main branch from which the Uzumakis descended from? why didn't Kushina refer to herself and her clan as descendants of the Senjus? why? it's because they're not descended from the Senjus, they're simply blood relatives. So in conclusion, the words of Zetsu and Kushina are resolved by the correct contextual interpretation of the original text as "Blood Relatives" :)


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It has been definitively confirmed that 血縁 was what Zetsu uttered in the above raw manga panel image in 606, ketsuen or blood relative not sosen or 祖先 which means ancestry/lineage ;)
 
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Do you people see how a simple error could screw up a big part of the plot!


Edit: Uzumaki are the clan of kinjutsu, longevity, and vitality again!
 

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I've always wondered about that chapter. Nagato had been reffered to as an Uzumaki, and we had been told by Kushina that they were distant blood relatives.

I could never understand why it had been said that Nagato all the sudden was of Senju descent when he was an Uzumaki...then again I never read the *********** version so I guess that's what I get XP!
 

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Good job...and love that you did your own researcher(thanks god this wasn't a waste of time).

Thanks! Lol I never knew Madara was translated as "Adala" so its' entirely possible and plausible that the Uzumakis were the main branch where the Uchihas and Senjus descended from. :D
 

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So u make a thread about how they are descendants then another stating they're not.........what's next a maybe thread?
 

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Thanks! Lol I never knew Madara was translated as "Adala" so its' entirely possible and plausible that the Uzumakis were the main branch where the Uchihas and Senjus descended from. :D

I looked up the meaning of that name, and it means "noble one".
 

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So u make a thread about how they are descendants then another stating they're not.........what's next a maybe thread?

I said the Sage could have been descended from the Uzumakis, that he was an Uzumaki himself, what I am pointing out, is the misconception that the Uzumakis descended from the Senjus which is wrong. :)
 

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Derp always coming out with good threads. Thanks for the effort and clearing that up.
 

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This is the only thread you've posted that's inaccurate. The Senju and Uchiha were the first two clans. All other clans originated from them including the Uzumaki.

This Is My Own Opinion.

The Sage was NOT an Uzumaki because it was never said in the manga. All clans were born from the same Sage. So the Sage is also an Hozuki, a Yuki, a Nara etc. The Sage had two sons who were the ancestors of the TWO GREATEST clans that ever existed, The Uchiha and The Senju. Now most of you would ask the question of the other clans, how they were formed. Let me explain, you might not agree with this...

ALL THE CLANS WERE ALL FORMED FROM THE UCHIHA AND SENJU BLOODLINE AT SOME POINT. It's the ONLY explanation of how the other clans were formed. But the Hyuuga are more special because the manga said the Byakugan was formed from the sharingan therefore the hyuuga would be related to the Uchiha clan. The Uzumaki weren't genetically special at all...except for their large chakra and stamina. They were distant relations to the Senju just like other numerous clans. But what made them special was their vast knowledge of sealing jutsus. They endevoured to create and enhance sealing jutsus like Kuchiyose no jutsu, Death Reaper seal, Death reaper reversal mask seal, Jinchuriki sealing jutsu etc and others later learnt from their knowledge and advanced their jutsus to jutsus like Flying Thunder Jutsu, Edo Tensei etc

This IS just My Opinion By The Way.
 

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I said the Sage could have been descended from the Uzumakis, that he was an Uzumaki himself, what I am pointing out, is the misconception that the Uzumakis descended from the Senjus which is wrong. :)

So the next one is going to be a maybe one
 

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This is the only thread you've posted that's inaccurate. The Senju and Uchiha were the first two clans. All other clans originated from them including the Uzumaki.

This Is My Own Opinion.

The Sage was NOT an Uzumaki because it was never said in the manga. All clans were born from the same Sage. So the Sage is also an Hozuki, a Yuki, a Nara etc. The Sage had two sons who were the ancestors of the TWO GREATEST clans that ever existed, The Uchiha and The Senju. Now most of you would ask the question of the other clans, how they were formed. Let me explain, you might not agree with this...

ALL THE CLANS WERE ALL FORMED FROM THE UCHIHA AND SENJU BLOODLINE AT SOME POINT. It's the ONLY explanation of how the other clans were formed. But the Hyuuga are more special because the manga said the Byakugan was formed from the sharingan therefore the hyuuga would be related to the Uchiha clan. The Uzumaki weren't genetically special at all...except for their large chakra and stamina. They were distant relations to the Senju just like other numerous clans. But what made them special was their vast knowledge of sealing jutsus. They endevoured to create and enhance sealing jutsus like Kuchiyose no jutsu, Death Reaper seal, Death reaper reversal mask seal, Jinchuriki sealing jutsu etc and others later learnt from their knowledge and advanced their jutsus to jutsus like Flying Thunder Jutsu, Edo Tensei etc

This IS just My Opinion By The Way.

This isn't even my thread, yet I feel insulted.

Can you provide evidence from the manga where it states that ALL clans are descendants of the Sage?Not saying you're wrong, but until you provide concrete evidence, your statement is not valid.
 
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