[Debate] Abortion

[sG Taka]

Lol its funny Cuz he tried to sound smart in his comment



You still havent answered my questions. Like i said earlier if you cant handle a debate than dont debate. Cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen

If you dont respond i will understand and forgive you. I tried to simplify them but i guess the questions were just too hard for you to answer.

You already proved my point by answering them indirectly and ignoring them.

Conclusion: Killing a baby does not justify the sin of another man.

Take it back. I'm going to fall for your silly psychological game and reply.
Bold: Are you really that desperate to appear as you have won the debate?

I answered the questions, you just don't understand. I wish I could follow Tsuchi's signature and not argue with an...well, y'know a hypocritical person that calls out people who insult but he himself insults his opponent indirectly.

"I guess the questions were too hard to answer" -failed attempt at being sarcastic and indirectly saying that I do not have the intellectual capacity to answer your questions when in fact, I did. Not just the way you wanted.

"If you don't respond I will understand and forgive you" -really? annoyingly condescending much?

Again, I did not indirectly answer or ignored your questions, I just simply chose to avoid to answer them in a yes or no fashion because they deserve more than that. If you fail to see that and/or understand my answers. It's ok, just stop this little game of yours because it's getting annoying.

 

[Punk Hazard]

so like, a tapeworm attaching itself to someone inside their body becomes a part of it?

youre just an idiot

 

[Narubro]

So we should allow tapeworms to live! GENIUS!

haha, well i dont think you understand my analogy there buddy boy

im saying just because a living thing is inside someone doesnt mean it becomes a part of them. i wish i could give you a cookie or something though, because it looks like you seriously think you countered my point successfully

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Let me give you a scenario to help explain this:

A woman is raped. She is hurt, mentally and physically. 9 months later, she is due for a pregnancy that she has a chance of dying for, a baby born to a man from one of the few men that raped her, and if she keeps the baby, she won't be able to support it and will be forced to give away any educational opportunity.

There are cases when Abortion are the right choice and I narrow them down to endangering the mother's life, rape cases (includes incest), and if the mother cannot support the baby if they plan to keep the baby.

I am pro-choice but I do support the mother allowing the baby to be born but it is their choice, not mine.

There are chances that a mother will die from giving birth. There are chances where a mother will die from getting abortions. So pick your poison.

Should a woman risk her life to give birth? Woman have been doing that since the beginning of time. The chances of death have decreased dramatically over the years due to better technology. Are you saying the chance of death should make a woman kill a child? Driving a car is the most dangerous form of transportation. So should people stop driving cars?

Should a baby have to pay for the sins of a rapist?

And if the situation is not rape or incest, is abortion ok?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Is said spider now connected in some way to your body and gaining it's nourishment from you? Does it share your body as it's own living off of you eating what you eat drinking what you drink? Is it physically your offspring sharing 50 percent of your DNA?

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disgusting

 

[Narubro]

youre just an idiot

you cant counter my point, so you call me an idiot. it all boils down to that i guess

 

[sG Taka]

There are chances that a mother will die from giving birth. There are chances where a mother will die from getting abortions. So pick your poison.

Should a woman risk her life to give birth? Woman have been doing that since the beginning of time. The chances of death have decreased dramatically over the years due to better technology. Are you saying the chance of death should make a woman kill a child? Driving a car is the most dangerous form of transportation. So should people stop driving cars?

Should a baby have to pay for the sins of a rapist?

And if the situation is not rape or incest, is abortion ok?

You're finally giving in buddy boy, oh and you never answered my key question. Maybe I should re-post it again just in case you missed it.

You ask if the baby -or fetus- should suffer for the man's sin, when, the question should be rephrased as the following:

Should the mum be forced to suffer for the actions of the rapist?

 

[Howard]

disgusting

You're welcome I guess O_O

 

[Narubro]

Is said spider now connected in some way to your body and gaining it's nourishment from you? Does it share your body as it's own living off of you eating what you eat drinking what you drink? Is it physically your offspring sharing 50 percent of your DNA?

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well no, but she was implying anything inside your body becomes a part of your body. if you read the post i was replying to, you would see the context of what i said

 

[Avani 🥈]

and can you tell me whats killing this woman?

and can you tell me why she has to support it, why she cant give it up for adoption?

She will still have to carry the baby, which acts as a parasite for the time it's in a womb, taking nutrition from the body. many women end up anaemic/ and low on calcium and suffer from other consequences if they don't get proper care for themselves during this time.

Carrying the baby and even if one has means of getting proper medical/neutirtional care has consequences and permanatly changes the body in many regards and even create medical problems for after life ( depending upon case to case). Psychological effects are another factor.

 

[MissRed]

The way I see it; my body, my choice.

 

[Swizzik]

haha, well i dont think you understand my analogy there buddy boy

im saying just because a living thing is inside someone doesnt mean it becomes a part of them. i wish i could give you a cookie or something though, because it looks like you seriously think you countered my point successfully

lol that's the point Iv'e been trying to get across. I'm just trying to say that the mothers are under no obligation to harbor the child. Does it make you a bad person if you remove the child, well maybe, are you obligated to no. Its like if you see a group of men shoot someone you are not obligated to help the person even if only you could save them atm. There is no law saying you must be a decent person other than your own morality and morality varies depending on the person. Laws are made to protect our interest as human beings based on a general morality, but on an issue like this that isn't so clear cut it's best to leave people to do what they want and not try to enforce your belief on others.

 

[Punk Hazard]

you cant counter my point, so you call me an idiot. it all boils down to that i guess

i can, if a tapeworm attaches itself to you, its not a part of your body, its a parasite. simple as that

a baby on the other hand is fused to your body and is part of you until birth and the doctor cuts the umbilical cord

 

[kohana]

this is getting even more disgusting by the minute

 

[Howard]

well no, but she was implying anything inside your body becomes a part of your body. if you read the post i was replying to, you would see the context of what i said

I read both posts.. O_O and the baby is connected to the mother.... So what she was implying was true... What you said was pretty stupid in my opinion... I mean unless you're an Aburame and you live in the Narutoverse than you're not physically connected with any bug that makes contact with your body unless it's a parasite and in that case it's not physically your offspring.... I really don't get why this is even a debate if the baby is yours hell you can decide what you want to do with it. When you find yourself in one of the situations you proposed you can make your own decision and when you do, you want to know something I won't look down on you for whatever you chose... I don't get why this is such a big thing I mean yeah the kid could grow up to be a fully functioning member of society but it could also grow up to be the next Hitler. It's not your choice to make unless you're the one in the situation... It's not your place to look down upon others who make choices. I'm going to stop now cause I wanted to go to sleep about a half hour ago and I'm still posting xd

She will still have to carry the baby, which acts as a parasite for the time it's in a womb, taking nutrition from the body. many women end up anaemic/ and low on calcium and suffer from other consequences if they don't get proper care for themselves during this time.

Carrying the baby and even if one has means of getting proper medical/neutirtional care has consequences and permanatly changes the body in many regards and even create medical problems for after life ( depending upon case to case). Psychological effects are another factor.

I still can't rep you >_< dang it...

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Take it back. I'm going to fall for your silly psychological game and reply.
Bold: Are you really that desperate to appear as you have won the debate?

I answered the questions, you just don't understand. I wish I could follow Tsuchi's signature and not argue with an...well, y'know a hypocritical person that calls out people who insult but he himself insults his opponent indirectly.

"I guess the questions were too hard to answer" -failed attempt at being sarcastic and indirectly saying that I do not have the intellectual capacity to answer your questions when in fact, I did. Not just the way you wanted.

"If you don't respond I will understand and forgive you" -really? annoyingly condescending much?

Again, I did not indirectly answer or ignored your questions, I just simply chose to avoid to answer them in a yes or no fashion because they deserve more than that. If you fail to see that and/or understand my answers. It's ok, just stop this little game of yours because it's getting annoying.

Word of advice: stick to your word. You said you wouldnt answer me and now here you are responding to me. I am very shock to see this. But if you were to respond why didnt you attempt to answery questions? Smh

I am not a hyprocrite i did not call you words or disrespect you. If you felt insulted than i humbly apoligize man.

I felt you were rude to end the debate so abrupt and not even bother to answer my questions and ignore them. I figured the questions were to complicated for you. I tried to simplify them but evidently its still not easy for you to answer but i am ok with that and dont harbor any ill will towards you.

If you plan on responding please answer thisat least

Is killing a baby for the sins of another man justified? Yes or no. Doesnt matter what scenario it is. This is as simple as i can make it for you

Hypothetically if i attacked your mom would killing you be justifiable? No matter what age your mom were whther 12, 20, 30 or 70. Women of all age get raped so forget the useless details.

Why doesnt the father have a choice?

Why doesnt the baby have a choice?

4 veey simple questions. If you respond please just simply take the time to answer. If you dont respond or answer i will understand, forgive you and move on with my life.

 

[Narubro]

lol that's the point Iv'e been trying to get across. I'm just trying to say that the mothers are under no obligation to harbor the child. Does it make you a bad person if you remove the child, well maybe, are you obligated to no. Its like if you see a group of men shoot someone you are not obligated to help the person even if only you could save them atm. There is no law saying you must be a decent person other than your own morality and morality varies depending on the person. Laws are made to protect our interest as human beings.

it is a mothers obligation to harbor the baby until born. maybe the law doesnt say it, but the law isnt always in everybody's interest. laws used to oppress people, and make people do horrible things. it really isnt wise to put all your trust in any government, because you will be disappointed. but im going off topic. laws change, but basic human decency doesnt. you get pregnant, you better take care of that baby until its born. even if you didnt want it. killing it isnt going to erase what happened. let it be its own person somewhere else.

 

[sG Taka]

Word of advice: stick to your word. You said you wouldnt answer me and now here you are responding to me. I am very shock to see this. But if you were to respond why didnt you attempt to answery questions? Smh

I am not a hyprocrite i did not call you words or disrespect you. If you felt insulted than i humbly apoligize man.

I felt you were rude to end the debate so abrupt and not even bother to answer my questions and ignore them. I figured the questions were to complicated for you. I tried to simplify them but evidently its still not easy for you to answer but i am ok with that and dont harbor any ill will towards you.

If you plan on responding please answer thisat least

Is killing a baby for the sins of another man justified? Yes or no. Doesnt matter what scenario it is. This is as simple as i can make it for you

Hypothetically if i attacked your mom would killing you be justifiable? No matter what age your mom were whther 12, 20, 30 or 70. Women of all age get raped so forget the useless details.

Why doesnt the father have a choice?

Why doesnt the baby have a choice?

4 veey simple questions. If you respond please just simply take the time to answer. If you dont respond or answer i will understand, forgive you and move on with my life.

I already responded to all of these questions. If you fail to see that, it is not my problem. For the last time, I don't agree with the fact that these questions can be answered in a simple "Yes or No" fashion. You are degrading the situation and it's meaning. Stop asking me to answer in a yes or no fashion because I will not. I already answered these questions in their deserving manner.

Also, you never responded to my key question:

Does the mum have to suffer for the rapists sins?

 

[Swizzik]

it is a mothers obligation to harbor the baby until born. maybe the law doesnt say it, but the law isnt always in everybody's interest. laws used to oppress people, and make people do horrible things. it really isnt wise to put all your trust in any government, because you will be disappointed. but im going off topic. laws change, but basic human decency doesnt. you get pregnant, you better take care of that baby until its born. even if you didnt want it. killing it isnt going to erase what happened. let it be its own person somewhere else.

Please tell me who made it the mother's obligation. WHO MADE IT!

 

[Piccolosan]

Word of advice: stick to your word. You said you wouldnt answer me and now here you are responding to me. I am very shock to see this. But if you were to respond why didnt you attempt to answery questions? Smh

I am not a hyprocrite i did not call you words or disrespect you. If you felt insulted than i humbly apoligize man.

I felt you were rude to end the debate so abrupt and not even bother to answer my questions and ignore them. I figured the questions were to complicated for you. I tried to simplify them but evidently its still not easy for you to answer but i am ok with that and dont harbor any ill will towards you.

If you plan on responding please answer thisat least

Is killing a baby for the sins of another man justified? Yes or no. Doesnt matter what scenario it is. This is as simple as i can make it for you

Hypothetically if i attacked your mom would killing you be justifiable? No matter what age your mom were whther 12, 20, 30 or 70. Women of all age get raped so forget the useless details.

Why doesnt the father have a choice?

Why doesnt the baby have a choice?

4 veey simple questions. If you respond please just simply take the time to answer. If you dont respond or answer i will understand, forgive you and move on with my life.

Sir can I respond for him?

1. One of the most celebrated events of our history is someone dying for other's sins. When Jesus died on the cross. So seeing as how our society has treated this act then it seems its justifiable.

2. If he was the one who raped his mother then yes...or had anything to do with it.

3. He does, but if he raped her then I don't see him sticking around to claim the baby. Also most fathers try and not have the baby as most abortions happen when its on accident.

4. The baby doesn't have a choice because its intelligence level is not high enough to understand language, much less the question. Who knows it might grow up to be emo and hoping to die...