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I mean, c'mon, orchestrating Rin's death, manipulating the Mist ninja just to die, who else could it be (hint, the guy that orchestrated the Republic and Separatists to fight a pointless war). I mean, seriously, he wanted to manipulate a kind hearted man (Obito) to give in to hatred, and destroy...

It's already been established that juubi jinchurikis are unable to jump, so how did Madara do this, please don't say plot, I figured that much out.

Back when he was evil, multiple times during the battle he implies that he pities him to a degree and wants nothing more than to take him into the infinite tsukuyomi, to "fulfill" his dreams, and asks him to stop fighting multiple times. All in all, it seemed he never really felt much malice for...

I mean, sure, he's had his idiotic moments,but he doesn't seem all that stupid, foolish and naive,yes,but not stupid.

The way I see it, Obito is basically naruto's answers to Darth Vader. -Both were former friends of the mentor of the main character -Both were horribly scarred at one point in their lives and were constructed as monstrosities more machine (or plant, in Obito's case, than man) -Both turned evil...

I mean, seriously, the guy is practically overjoyed when he's in pain, he practically seems to get off on it.

Can't list jutsu every single character can use, but... Kishimoto is suited in plot armor, wields plot device, and is a master at plot no jutsu WHO WILL WIN, YOU DECIDE

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Okay, so if Madara is Palpatine, and Obito is Darth Vader, what would that make Pain/Nagato?

Okay, so if Madara is Palpatinr, and Obito is Darth Vader, what would that make Pain/Nagato?