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  1. Nidaime Suiton

    Was Jiraiya Afraid?

    It has been retconned. The full potential of Kisame and Itachi had been show in Shippuden, so in no way Jiraiya, even in Sage Mode, could deal with both simultaneously. + Jiraiya protected Naruto. In no way he could flee as a coward and let Naruto alone just because they were stronger than...
  2. Nidaime Suiton

    [Theory] Enma was the 2nd teacher of the Sannins

    Hiruzen became interim Hokage at around 24 years old during the 1st Shinobi War. He probably offically became the 3rd Hokage at the end of the war, when peace came. But the Hokage is the one who form genin teams, so it wasn't a problem for Hiruzen to take Jiraiya, Orochimaru and Tsunade as...
  3. Nidaime Suiton

    [Discussion] What if Might Gai had a contract with Monkey King Enma instead of the Turtle?

    Very good idea. I never thought about it, but Enma fits very well with Might Guy. I can imagine Hiruzen trying to help Might Guy to progress in Taijutsu after Might Dai's death, and teach him how to summon Monkeys. But I think it won't be Monkey King Enma, but another Monkey, and this Monkey...
  4. Nidaime Suiton

    Was Jiraiya Afraid?

    In term of brute power, Jiraiya was stronger than FG Orochimaru, because Jiraiya has access to Sage Mode. Orochimaru is very resistant as he showed it against Naruto 4 tails, so he can tank most attacks from Jiraiya, but in the other hand, Orochimaru don't have strong attack to hurt Jiraiya...
  5. Nidaime Suiton

    [Question] Numbers vs Lives?

    5 multiples : - Orochimaru (it is already the case with the cursed mark) - Obito (Uncatchable for most characters due to Kamui, can change his positions everytime) - Minato and Tobirama ( are uncatchable for most characters due to Hiraishin, can change their position everytime, and they are very...
  6. Nidaime Suiton

    [Theory] Enma was the 2nd teacher of the Sannins

    When Hiruzen was the sensei of the Sannins, he was already the 3rd Hokage. So you can imagine that he couldn't go in mission with his three student. In my opinon the one who supervised the young sannins when they went in mission, was Enma the Monkey King. First, Enma is officially a Shinobi...
  7. Nidaime Suiton

    [Discussion] List of things that would have happened if Hiruzen killed Danzo when Danzo tried to assassinate him

    First, Danzo never tried to kill Hiruzen, that's from filler, it's not canon. It's not canon and completly incoherent because no one than Danzo know better how powerful was Hiruzen (at this time Hiruzen was in his 50s, not in his prime, but still credible) , and that send some Anbu guys aren't...
  8. Nidaime Suiton

    Was Jiraiya Afraid?

    This is just a plot hole. If Jiraiya could help Hiruzen against Orochimaru, then Orochimaru would have lost or forced to abandon, but Hiruzen would still die because nobody in Konoha could sceal Hashirama and Tobirama instead him. In the lore, Jiraiya wasn't affraid, he couldn't break the...
  9. Nidaime Suiton

    [Theory] Is the Kinkaku Force the second most powerful organization ?

    Hmm ok. I thought that Kinkaku and Ginkaku betrayed Kumo and created their own separatist organization. But I am sure that when Tsunade said " They drove the second Hokage to the brink of death ", that's means when Tobirama acted as the decoy against the Kinkaku Unit, he didn't immediately die...
  10. Nidaime Suiton

    [Theory] Is the Kinkaku Force the second most powerful organization ?

    I am talking about Naruto and Naruto Shippuden, not Boruto. Obviously the most powerful organization in Naruto, is the Akatsuki. But, it seems that the Kinkaku Force composed of Ginkaku and Kinkaku with 20 "highly skilled" shinobis, is the second most powerful organization. When Tobirama and...
  11. Nidaime Suiton

    [Theory] The Naruto that defeated Pain and Jiraya were equally strong

    If only Jiraiya killed first the Pain Avatar who revives other avatars, then, Jiraiya would have won. Jiraiya Sage Mode solos Tendô, especially with the deadly Toad Genjutsu. The only thing which make Jiraiya lose, is that this damn Pain Avatar revived the three Avatars Jiraiya killed before...
  12. Nidaime Suiton

    The reason why Tobirama and Minato were the only Hiraishin users.

    Yes, at this point, even Sasuke should be able to learn it. The real reason is that Kishimoto made this jutsu as a signature jutsu to Tobirama and Minato, that's why other valuable shinobis like Sasuke don't benefit from this jutsu. But here I am thinking about the lore, and not the official...
  13. Nidaime Suiton

    The reason why Tobirama and Minato were the only Hiraishin users.

    Hiraishin in English means Flying Thunder God Technique, so meaning that it is linked to the Thunder God in the Japanese mythology. Like Amaterasu or Tukuyomi are Gods in the Japanese mythology. My theory is that to master this jutus, you have to be chosen by the "Thunder God". The user...
  14. Nidaime Suiton

    This guy on Youtube made a fanmanga about Tobirama VS Ginkaku / Kinkaku

    No. It's not a self promotion. I can't draw like that. 1601446835 No. It's not a self promotion. I can't draw like that.
  15. Nidaime Suiton

    This guy on Youtube made a fanmanga about Tobirama VS Ginkaku / Kinkaku

    Finally, someone has done what many fans expected for so long. It's in spanish, but the pictures are enough. This is exactly how I expected Young Hiruzen fighting style.
  16. Nidaime Suiton

    [Question] What if Kishi didn't suck and wrote Hyugas alongside the other clans?

    Each clan of Konoha, like the Uchiha, should have a second level of power. A second level of power only reachable by the elites. For example, only elites Uchiha can have Mangekyo Sharingan. For the Hyuga, they deserved to have a Super Hyuga power. Neji should have this power, in this manner...
  17. Nidaime Suiton

    Kaguya was the true HERO and SAVIOR of Planet earth (naruto's earth)

    Danzo was the true hero. If his plan worked, he would have saved the world.
  18. Nidaime Suiton

    What if tobi ordered pein to atk konoha during the time when itachi was alive?

    Alive Itachi has no chance against Obito orange masked or Pain. In middle Shipuden he was sick. Itachi is enough smart to understand how works Pain and Kamui, but he needs the necessary stamina to beat them. Obito can counter Amaterasu with Kamui, and it's not an elite Uchiha such as Obito...
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