Hiashi is easily kage level

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

If mei/tsunade are kage level then he is kage level, comparing him to hashirama,minato,hiruzen is not fair by that logic the masters are not kage level which they are. Actually you stole my thread nevermind you does it better.

Don't compare Mei and Tsunade to Hiruzen. They can deal with him without to many difficulties.

( lol, the Hiruzen fanboys will kill me for this xd )

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

and that would be? It's ironic you telling me I have poor logic seeing how you think quickly and easily are different.

1. If they were the exact same thing, there would only be one word. But, there are two, signifying a difference between the two.
2. "If you don't struggle in something, it's not difficult whatsoever." (Your words) If I don't struggle in my Calculus homework, is that supposed to mean that Calculus is easy? No, it could be hard, but I just understand it better than others, making it easier. That still doesn't make Calculus easy.

Do you understand?

 

[Unbiased]

What the heck is this?
No because you turned on the computer quickly it does not mean you did it easily. There could have been any number of tedious coding problems which you addressed quickly. One may write an essay or do their homework quickly but it does not mean that those were easy tasks to complete. A sniper can make shots quickly but that doesn't mean that it was an easy shot to make. Quickly describes time. Easily describes the difficulty of the task completed.
That is circle logic. The reason why Darui is stronger is because the 3rd decided to pass black lightening to him. The fact that Darui is one Kumo's stronger ninjas is the reason why he's A's body guard. And I'd be willing to bet people such as Temari and Kanuro could beat him. He is not even near kage level. He is mid jounin at best. And a lot of how well he can perform is based on the knowledge he possess.

1-Quickly also means there's little challenge involved. If the student doing his homework can quickly do it, it means he is well versed in the topic. Someone who cannot accomplish something quickly is having difficulty.

2-Darui has his own KKG without the black lightening he is strong. Black lightening is merely a technique, Techniques do not equate to strength.

 

[Unbiased]

1. If they were the exact same thing, there would only be one word. But, there are two, signifying a difference between the two.
2. "If you don't struggle in something, it's not difficult whatsoever." (Your words) If I don't struggle in my Calculus homework, is that supposed to mean that Calculus is easy? No, it could be hard, but I just understand it better than others, making it easier. That still doesn't make Calculus easy.


Do you understand?

You don't struggle in calculus because you understand it better then others. (your words) So to some it may be difficult. To you it is not something that presents a great challenge. Therefore you cannot label easily and quickly as different because they relate to each other. You're a prime example. Calculus is hard, you do not struggle with it and have a great understanding. It's initial difficulty is hard, but due to your understanding it presents little challenge making you able to do it quickly and easily.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

You don't struggle in calculus because you understand it better then others. (your words) So to some it may be difficult. To you it is not something that presents a great challenge. Therefore you cannot label easily and quickly as different because they relate to each other. You're a prime example. Calculus is hard, you do not struggle with it and have a great understanding. It's initial difficulty is hard, but due to your understanding it presents little challenge making you able to do it quickly and easily.

This conversation is like teaching a dinosaur to ride a ball. (TFS) lol.

 

[Bogard]

I doubt you need help, but feel free to pick apart information from my Byakugan is the 2nd best dojutsu thread if you need too.

Haha i will post it in versus thread anyway. So be free to give your analysis when the time come

What the heck is this?
No because you turned on the computer quickly it does not mean you did it easily. There could have been any number of tedious coding problems which you addressed quickly. One may write an essay or do their homework quickly but it does not mean that those were easy tasks to complete. A sniper can make shots quickly but that doesn't mean that it was an easy shot to make. Quickly describes time. Easily describes the difficulty of the task completed.
That is circle logic. The reason why Darui is stronger is because the 3rd decided to pass black lightening to him. The fact that Darui is one Kumo's stronger ninjas is the reason why he's A's body guard. And I'd be willing to bet people such as Temari and Kanuro could beat him. He is not even near kage level. He is mid jounin at best. And a lot of how well he can perform is based on the knowledge he possess.

Quickly means finishing something in a flash. When someone doesn't struggle to do something, it means it was easy. I don't know what is your definition of kage level, but saying that Darui is mid jounin at best is laughable. He may not be able to beat Tsunade or Mei, but he could give them a run of their money

 

[Tazzilla88]

1-Quickly also means there's little challenge involved. If the student doing his homework can quickly do it, it means he is well versed in the topic. Someone who cannot accomplish something quickly is having difficulty.

2-Darui has his own KKG without the black lightening he is strong. Black lightening is merely a technique, Techniques do not equate to strength.

1. Quick definition : acting or capable of acting with speed
Easily definition: in an easy manner : without difficulty
Easy definition: a : causing or involving little difficulty or discomfort <within easy reach>
b : requiring or indicating little effort, thought, or reflection <easy clichés>
Very different idea being expressed. For instance, I can quickly write philosophy essays but I cannot do so easily.

2. Without going into techniques tell me why Hiashi is strong. Darui has a kkg but that doesn't innately make him strong. Haku had a blod line limit but he was chunnin level at best.

 

[Unbiased]

This conversation is like teaching a dinosaur to ride a ball. (TFS) lol.

I don't remember that TFS quote. What episode is it I want to watch lol.

Haha i will post it in versus thread anyway. So be free to give your analysis when the time come
I don't know what is your definition of kage level, but saying that Darui is mid jounin at best is laughable. He may not be able to beat Tsunade or Mei, but he could give them a run of their money

Just send me a PM and my phone will go off letting me know you're gonna post it.

 

[Kages]

Hiashi can definitely take A or the 3RD raikage. That's only because the byakugan can sense an opponents attacks and gentle fist attacks your organs/chakra network. Hiashi is the worst matchup for A and 3RD raikage

..... I hope you're joking

 

[Unbiased]

1. Quick definition : acting or capable of acting with speed
Easily definition: in an easy manner : without difficulty
Easy definition: a : causing or involving little difficulty or discomfort <within easy reach>
b : requiring or indicating little effort, thought, or reflection <easy clichés>
Very different idea being expressed. For instance, I can quickly write philosophy essays but I cannot do so easily.

2. Without going into techniques tell me why Hiashi is strong. Darui has a kkg but that doesn't innately make him strong. Haku had a blod line limit but he was chunnin level at best.

1-Yes but where I'm getting at is that they're not antonyms and could very well compliment each other. I quickly and easily turned on the stove. Those two words complimented each other. So quickly and easily could very well be used in regards to Hiashi and the head ninja. The point is to prove its not a impossibility for that to happen.

2-Hashirama had a great understanding of jutsu. Wisdom leads to strength EX shikamaru. Also Zabuza stated Haku's jutsu surpassed his in regards to ninjutsu. So he could very well be jounin level. Kabuto doesn't resurrect weak ninja's.

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[Yusuke Urameshi]

I don't remember that TFS quote. What episode is it I want to watch lol.

Pretty sure it's in the movie 'Revenge of Cooler'. If not there, it would be in the 'Christmas Tree' movie.

 

[Rayder]

If he was able to take care of it quickly then there was no difficulty. Furthermore in one hit he was killed.

He is quite capable of beating Mei/Tsunade and potentially A and 3rd raikage.

Bullshit.

A and 3rd Raikage don't even attack Hiashi to beat him. All they need to do is barge him to take him out. Hiashi isn't messing with the low-tier Kages let alone the top tiers like A and his dad.

 

[Unbiased]

Bullshit.

A and 3rd Raikage don't even attack Hiashi to beat him. All they need to do is barge him to take him out. Hiashi isn't messing with the low-tier Kages let alone the top tiers like A and his dad.

Haha that's funny. It's too bad that's its true.

 

[Kages]

Make the thread. All this is is a neji versus Tsunade with a Neji's whose attacks are stronger. It doesn't change the fact that he is not on Tsunade's level. That he has no counter to Katsuyu. And should Pein have attacked the leaf village, in her role as hokage he would have been less helpful than she was. Even in the gokage fight she would have been less useful.

No shit he would've been less helpful... He is nowhere near her level

 

[Tazzilla88]

1-Yes but where I'm getting at is that they're not antonyms and could very well compliment each other. I quickly and easily turned on the stove. Those two words complimented each other. So quickly and easily could very well be used in regards to Hiashi and the head ninja. The point is to prove its not a impossibility for that to happen.

2-Hashirama had a great understanding of jutsu. Wisdom leads to strength EX shikamaru. Also Zabuza stated Haku's jutsu surpassed his in regards to ninjutsu. So he could very well be jounin level. Kabuto doesn't resurrect weak ninja's.

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Not antonyms does not mean synonyms. Complementary does not mean always true. It says quickly not easilly.

Shikamaru isn't strong. He is intelligent. Shikamaru being one of the smartest characters arguably the smartest character would be defeated by a number of Shinobi with better techniques low difficulty. What made Hashi strong was his abilities not his understand.

 

[Rayder]

Haha that's funny. It's too bad that's its true.

Sorry if I sounded rude, I was just really surprised by that statement. U_U

Tell me how Hiashi beats A let alone the 3rd Raikage.

 

[Unbiased]

Not antonyms does not mean synonyms. Complementary does not mean always true. It says quickly not easilly.

Shikamaru isn't strong. He is intelligent. Shikamaru being one of the smartest characters arguably the smartest character would be defeated by a number of Shinobi with better techniques low difficulty. What made Hashi strong was his abilities not his understand.

Even Tobi lamented about fighting Shikamaru. The leader of Akatsuki lamented fighting shikamaru. That is proof in itself that shikamaru is no laughing matter and very powerful if someone who can control the kyuubi while fighting the fourth is regretting that he has to fight him.

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[the dark king]

yeah he's easily kage level though not like the past legendary kages but still strong enough to hold his own

 

[Unbiased]

Sorry if I sounded rude, I was just really surprised by that statement. U_U

Tell me how Hiashi beats A let alone the 3rd Raikage.

The Byakugan can sense all of your opponents attacks.

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To add even more butter to the bread Hiashi can sense killing intent.

Now that I've cleared out that Hiashi will not lose sight and be able to sense A and his father coming. Let me explain how he kills them.

Gentle fist requires only a slight touch to damage an opponent.

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Furthermore it damages your internal organs. If hiashi hits either of them in a vital area (chest, kidneys, legs, arms pretty much anywhere) its over. There's more things I can add but I think this gets the point across. Not to mention they're both close range fighters excluding A who can use black lightening. However Hiashi can use Kaiten the heavenly spin to block it.

 

[Rayder]

The Byakugan can sense all of your opponents attacks.

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To add even more butter to the bread Hiashi can sense killing intent.

Now that I've cleared out that Hiashi will not lose sight and be able to sense A and his father coming. Let me explain how he kills them.

Gentle fist requires only a slight touch to damage an opponent.

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Furthermore it damages your internal organs. If hiashi hits either of them in a vital area (chest, kidneys, legs, arms pretty much anywhere) its over. There's more things I can add but I think this gets the point across. Not to mention they're both close range fighters excluding A who can use black lightening. However Hiashi can use Kaiten the heavenly spin to block it.

Lets say Hiashi can sense A, how is his body meant to react to A's incredible speed. He wouldn't have time to even release chakra all over his body and start spinning before A's punch gets to him.