Hiashi is easily kage level

[Unbiased]

So Shizune is considered a konoha leader as is the council. So by that idea what is important to the fact is his political power and not his physical power.
Neji didn't say easily he said quickly which leads me to think it was a surprise attack and there is no way you can disprove that belief.

Shikaku was the jonin commander which according to the databook is the same rank as head ninja which is what that leader was. There's no evidence that it was a surprise attack either btw. Quickly could mean easily as well. If I'm able to quickly turn on my computer that mean's I didn't have a difficult time.

 

[Bogard]

So Shizune is considered a konoha leader as is the council. So by that idea what is important to the fact is his political power and not his physical power.
Neji didn't say easily he said quickly which leads me to think it was a surprise attack and there is no way you can disprove that belief.

So you think that Kumo will send a weak ninja into Hyuga's property to steal Byakugan? You think they will consider a weak ninja as a leader? They will send a weak leader ninja to come and sign a pact with Konoha? In the anime they have shown the scene and it was not a surprise attack. He did it in one move. Neji said quickly to say that the fight didn't last long(so easy). I don't even know why you believe this unless you only want to downgrade his feat

 

[Tazzilla88]

Tsunade is not the strongest obviously , A got beat by Bee, ect. Kage doesn't mean your the strongest you just generally are.

Tsunade was the strongest when she became hokage. Part 1 Kakashi, can't really hold a candle to Tsunade.
A was stronger than Bee when he became kage.
However, I would agree you don't necessarily have to be the strongest. But Hiashi isn't on the level of the hokages nor he is on the level of most other kages. (Mei does present an interesting dilemma but it is largely due to her not having much time to shine)

 

[Prince Charles]

Gentle fist works by destroying your chakra network and organs. Like Gai said you can't toughen up your organs.



It's quite obvious you don't understand how gentle fist works let alone the byakugan

i can,easily prove you wrong but its not worth the effort.

Ill let you think hiashi can be beat the A and the 3rd raikage.

 

[2big]

Hiashi can definitely take A or the 3RD raikage. That's only because the byakugan can sense an opponents attacks and gentle fist attacks your organs/chakra network. Hiashi is the worst matchup for A and 3RD raikage

butn there lightning armor would stop him plus he too damn fast

 

[Tazzilla88]

So you think that Kumo will send a weak ninja into Hyuga's property to steal Byakugan? You think they will consider a weak ninja as a leader? They will send a weak leader ninja to come and sign a pact with Konoha? In the anime they have shown the scene and it was not a surprise attack. I don't even know why you believe this unless you only want to downgrade his feat

1.Anime is not cannon at all.
2. Language says quickly not easily. When you think of sneak attacks they must be executed quickly to retain your surprise advantage
3. After A and B the next strongest shinobi seen is Darui who is also not kage level. So, no I don't think that the guy was that strong. Nothing indicates that he was.

 

[kibainuzuka]

I think he's Low Kage Level

 

[Bogard]

Tsunade was the strongest when she became hokage. Part 1 Kakashi, can't really hold a candle to Tsunade.
A was stronger than Bee when he became kage.
However, I would agree you don't necessarily have to be the strongest. But Hiashi isn't on the level of the hokages nor he is on the level of most other kages. (Mei does present an interesting dilemma but it is largely due to her not having much time to shine)

Against A maybe Hiashi don't stand a chance, but can you tell me how Tsunade will win against him? Her Byakuyou is useless against him since his gentle fist destroys chakra networks, so she couldn't be able to regenerate herself. He is greater and faster than her in taijutsu, has an overpowered defense even able to block Juubi's attack, has overpowered offense to push Juubi's tail back and attack internal organs. Hiashi has shown great feats that leads me to believe he is above Tsunade at least

 

[Unbiased]

Tsunade was the strongest when she became hokage. Part 1 Kakashi, can't really hold a candle to Tsunade.
A was stronger than Bee when he became kage.
However, I would agree you don't necessarily have to be the strongest. But Hiashi isn't on the level of the hokages nor he is on the level of most other kages. (Mei does present an interesting dilemma but it is largely due to her not having much time to shine)

That's true, its debatable if gai could beat them too. Hiashi isn't worthy of the hokage name but he definitely is powerful in his own right. If mei was in his position she would of died immediately in this chapter.

i can,easily prove you wrong but its not worth the effort.

Ill let you think hiashi can be beat the A and the 3rd raikage.

Keep thinking you can. Your out of your league in this one.

butn there lightning armor would stop him plus he too damn fast

The Byakugan can see nearly all 360 degrees and can sense attacks. Furthermore armor over his body doesn't matter as it's his organs getting hit.

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[Yusuke Urameshi]

Shikaku was the jonin commander which according to the databook is the same rank as head ninja which is what that leader was. There's no evidence that it was a surprise attack either btw. Quickly could mean easily as well. If I'm able to quickly turn on my computer that mean's I didn't have a difficult time.

It doesn't mean it was done easily. It simply means you turned on your computer quickly. It is implied, by what you said, that it was done easily. However, you can't imply things when it comes to Naruto. If you did, then it is implied that Hiruzen > Hashi and Tobirama, simply because he beat them.

Also, if quickly implies easily, that's to say Minato took out that squadron with no difficulty just because he did it quickly. That's kinda silly to think.

 

[Unbiased]

1.Anime is not cannon at all.
2. Language says quickly not easily. When you think of sneak attacks they must be executed quickly to retain your surprise advantage
3. After A and B the next strongest shinobi seen is Darui who is also not kage level. So, no I don't think that the guy was that strong. Nothing indicates that he was.

Quickly could mean easily as well. If I'm able to quickly turn on my computer that mean's I didn't have a difficult time.

Also Darui is very strong. If he wasn't he wouldn't be A's right hand and the 3rd wouldn't of passed down black lightening to him.

 

[Unbiased]

It doesn't mean it was done easily. It simply means you turned on your computer quickly. It is implied, by what you said, that it was done easily. However, you can't imply things when it comes to Naruto. If you did, then Hiruzen > Hashi and Tobirama, simply because he beat them.

Also, if quickly implies easily, that's to say Minato took out that squadron with no difficulty just because he did it quickly. That's kinda silly to think.

If you don't struggle in doing something it's not difficult whatsoever. Difficulty presents challenge. If he can quickly do something there's no challenge.

 

[Owarij]

Uchiha are gone, hyuuga are the 2nd strongest clan

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

If you don't struggle in doing something it's not difficult whatsoever. Difficulty presents challenge. If he can quickly do something there's no challenge.

Once again missed the point, at the same time using poor logic.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Against A maybe Hiashi don't stand a chance, but can you tell me how Tsunade will win against him? Her Byakuyou is useless against him since his gentle fist destroys chakra networks, so she couldn't be able to regenerate herself. He is greater and faster than her in taijutsu, has an overpowered defense even able to block Juubi's attack, has overpowered offense to push Juubi's tail back and attack internal organs. Hiashi has shown great feats that leads me to believe he is above Tsunade at least

Make the thread. All this is is a neji versus Tsunade with a Neji's whose attacks are stronger. It doesn't change the fact that he is not on Tsunade's level. That he has no counter to Katsuyu. And should Pein have attacked the leaf village, in her role as hokage he would have been less helpful than she was. Even in the gokage fight she would have been less useful.

 

[Unbiased]

Once again missed the point, at the same time using poor logic.

and that would be? It's ironic you telling me I have poor logic seeing how you think quickly and easily are different.

 

[warlee]

If mei/tsunade are kage level then he is kage level, comparing him to hashirama,minato,hiruzen is not fair by that logic the masters are not kage level which they are. Actually you stole my thread nevermind you does it better.

 

[Bogard]

Make the thread. All this is is a neji versus Tsunade with a Neji's whose attacks are stronger. It doesn't change the fact that he is not on Tsunade's level. That he has no counter to Katsuyu. And should Pein have attacked the leaf village, in her role as hokage he would have been less helpful than she was. Even in the gokage fight she would have been less useful.

Of course, she will always be more usefull as a medecine ninja to save lifes, but in a fight i believe Hiashi is stronger. It's what i'm saying. I will make the thread, don't worry

 

[Tazzilla88]

Quickly could mean easily as well. If I'm able to quickly turn on my computer that mean's I didn't have a difficult time.

Also Darui is very strong. If he wasn't he wouldn't be A's right hand and the 3rd wouldn't of passed down black lightening to him.

What the heck is this?
No because you turned on the computer quickly it does not mean you did it easily. There could have been any number of tedious coding problems which you addressed quickly. One may write an essay or do their homework quickly but it does not mean that those were easy tasks to complete. A sniper can make shots quickly but that doesn't mean that it was an easy shot to make. Quickly describes time. Easily describes the difficulty of the task completed.
That is circle logic. The reason why Darui is stronger is because the 3rd decided to pass black lightening to him. The fact that Darui is one Kumo's stronger ninjas is the reason why he's A's body guard. And I'd be willing to bet people such as Temari and Kanuro could beat him. He is not even near kage level. He is mid jounin at best. And a lot of how well he can perform is based on the knowledge he possess.

 

[Unbiased]

Of course, she will always be more usefull as a medecine ninja to save lifes, but in a fight i believe Hiashi is stronger. It's what i'm saying. I will make the thread, don't worry

I doubt you need help, but feel free to pick apart information from my Byakugan is the 2nd best dojutsu thread if you need too.