Shinra Tensei cancels Kamui [Must Read!]
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Konohas Silent Assassin
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so you're saying Kishi is a scientist too.
earth + water = mokuton (wood)
seed + water + earth + sunlight (fire) = trees
looks scientific to me... NOT.
you suck, DOCTOR SUCK
earth + water = mokuton (wood)
seed + water + earth + sunlight (fire) = trees
looks scientific to me... NOT.
you suck, DOCTOR SUCK
~Sovereign~
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shinra tensai changes the pressure in the air and GRAVITY IS IN THE AIR, so that means shinra tensai controls/moves gravity
kamui ABSORBS gravity because kamui ABSORBS "matter" which is everything
so kamui ABSORBS shinra tensai
Dittrich 24
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first off, gravity is not in the air. Air is an entirely different substance/mulitplie elements....gravity is the force of which an object exterts due to its size/mass. Hence gravity on Earth is always downwards because most of its mass is near and around its core. Gravity does not and will not recact as air.....
Secondly Kamuia for the sake of aurgment is acting as a worm hole due to it having an exit on the other side where a black hole is anit-matter where the product of matter in a black hole are still unknown.
stopped reading after you said "gravity keeps all matter together" as i knew it was going to be a stupid theory. Judging by the misguided physics principles being thrown around i was right (i would like to give myself one big pat on the back for taking the time to not read your thread and save a few minutes of my life. I am very proud of myself.)
~Sovereign~
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first off, gravity is SIMPLY PRESSURE BEING PULLED DOWNWARD. and shinra tensai controls the pressure, IF GRAVITY WASNT INVOLVED THEN SHINRA TENSAI WILL BE USELESS
well since your getting technical, kamui can absorb gravity too because gravity is apart of "matter"
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Dittrich 24
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Gravity doesnt always has to be downwards...just on our planet it happens to be downward. And the pressure is caused by the mass of the object. the greater the mass the greater the gravitional pull hence why we weigh less on the moon.
Kamui's gravitational pull seems to be a lot stronger but with a smaller range, seeing as how fast things are absorbed by the "Black Hole/Wormhole" effect of it. Chibaku Tensei, starts of slow and builds up which would mean that if both would be triggered at the same time, Kamui would absorb chibaku.
RasenUchihaChaos
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well we might if the o layer breaks or u know or we tear a hole in the sky or if humanity continues to destroy the earth as they always have done and will continue to do
No offense but do you have any idea what you are talking about ? Gravity is pressure being pulled downwards ? That's hilarious!
And No, gravity is not a part of matter. It's a property of matter. Anything that has mass has a gravitational field which exerts an attractive force on every other matter of the universe. If gravity were a "part" o matter, light would be unaffected by it which is obviously not true.
A little knowledge is a very dangerous thing my friend. From your posts it is quite clear you have no basic understanding of Gravity, or even any "Force" for that matter. Please stop.
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thegreatninja13
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Heres the issue you are refering to kamui as a black hole type tech it is more of a wormhole. A black hole is a collection of highly condenced matter so condenced that the strings refered to by M theory become intertwined creating matter unlike any other. That matter has so much mass with such little area that the gravity equation comes up with a rediculous force of gravity inside a specific radius. The more mass the larger the radius of the singularity, point at which light cannot escape. Kamui however is more like a wormhole, a bending of spacetime to allow for an object to travel a distance faster than light. Since the speed of light is constant spacetime bends in order to accomidate objects reaching a destination quicker than lightl, well theoretically. You can think of a wormhole like bending a map so that NY touches CA with minimal distance inbetween. Wormholes work by accesing other dimensions, that is what kamui is like. The real issue in this match up is the fact that gravity is the only multidimensional force i have also made a thread on this topic. There are 4 natural forces weak nuclear, strong nuclear, electromagnetic, and gravity. Each of these forces is a product of subatomic particles, muuons, gravitrons, nutreno's etc. Gravity is the only one of the fundamental forces that acts on more than our three, arguably 4 dimensions. Gravitrons are the only subatomic particle that is a closed "string" (referencing string/M theory) as such it is not bound to the membrain that created our universe (again referencing M theory) and is therefor free to affect other dimensions, being such a force theoretically any sort of gravity attack could reach the kamui dimension as gravity is not bound to the dimensions of our universe. aaaaand done.
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fastrthnwind
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In conclusion, you think that a powerful enough Shinra Tensi would be able to counter Kamui If kakashi ever used if on Pain/Nagato?
thegreatninja13
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oh so you are saying that he could stop kamui from being used on him rather than being able to hit someone in the kamui dimension?
fastrthnwind
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Im very sure that he could hit someone in the kamui dimension because gravity is capable of affecting s/t in that way. The conversation was about if Pain/Nagato could protect himself if Kakashi ever used Kamui on him.
thegreatninja13
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I would argue that he could not the reason I say this is because kamui seems to work like a wormhole which opens different dimensions and bends space time. Gravity can do the same but that brings us to the question of can a black hole swollow up a wormhole and from my understanding it cannot. The concept of shinra tensei and other gravity attacks is fairly simple however kamui is pretty tough to understand in its offensive mode. See in reality the process of entering the kamui dimension from our universe cannot happen it deals with the shwarzchild bubble in the wormhole theory so the problem cannot really be solved, once inside kamui the laws of physics come back into play because that is a theoretical possibility. Basically my opinion is no but no conceptual physics can solve this problem because it cannot exist its very nature is contrary to the laws of physics. For more info on why it isnt possible look up shwartzchild wormhole and the shwartzchild bubble.
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