Obito didn't look too happy to see Madara.....it's as if he knew that he had some explaining to do. As to why was he making his OWN plans and not the one Madara originated for him before he died! Like Nagato, Tobi isn't that bad of a guy either because all he really want is to bring peace to this world, though alot of people might disagree with the way they are willing to go to bring that so called peace of theirs
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Discussion and 601 Predictions
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I could'nt agree more.... The fact that he wants to end the world over a love he never had with someone is ridiculous. There better be some explaining because Madara has been dead people so how could he train Obito or know him..... This screams orochimaru
At first I would have agreed with you. For the longest time I would talk smack to anyone thinking Obito was Tobi. The whole concept seemed ludicrous to me because of the major plot holes and just lame storyline in general (Because Rin died really?). I hope that there is a big reveal in the coming chapters that makes for an overall better story. I always defended Kishi and his writing but I am getting the feeling he might disapoint us in the end.
bhermoth12
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if white zetsus can absorb chakra and transform into the person whose chakra they absorbed, why doesn't anyone think that tobi is a white zetsu clone of obito?
- We know Tobi has a large stash of sharingan. he could have taken Obito's remaining eye, drained some of Obito's chakra before dying, and mimicked his appearance with his near-perfect transformation jutsu
- In battle, Tobi lost an arm and his wound dripped liked zetsu clones do, plus he obviously regenerated the arm
- Tobi is all about the lies of the ninja world...he could just have knowledge of Rin and is using it against Kakashi to dishearten him in battle
- If Tobi is really just a clone, maybe him saying that he is "no one" makes more sense
- Tobi lied about his identity, then about being Madara, so why is everyone convinced he isn't lying about being Obito?
- Tobi being Obito is just too obvious of an answer. I refuse to believe he is
- We know Tobi has a large stash of sharingan. he could have taken Obito's remaining eye, drained some of Obito's chakra before dying, and mimicked his appearance with his near-perfect transformation jutsu
- In battle, Tobi lost an arm and his wound dripped liked zetsu clones do, plus he obviously regenerated the arm
- Tobi is all about the lies of the ninja world...he could just have knowledge of Rin and is using it against Kakashi to dishearten him in battle
- If Tobi is really just a clone, maybe him saying that he is "no one" makes more sense
- Tobi lied about his identity, then about being Madara, so why is everyone convinced he isn't lying about being Obito?
- Tobi being Obito is just too obvious of an answer. I refuse to believe he is
ImmaculateShadow
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Obito may in fact be the only hope the Ninja world has of getting rid of Madara - think just what a trap it would be to migrate Madara away in to the parallel dimension!!!
FOREVER!
Totally agree with that, if the 5 kages can't stop Madara, I don't think it will be Naruto to destroy him. But Obito knows his secrets, it could be the turn around in this history and the reconsiliation between Obito and Kakashi.
I can't see Orochimaru and Sasuke trying to stop Madara and Obito.
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OK Chapter, the flashbacks was frustrating. But the last page heated speculations up..
What I am guessing is Oro and Sasuke might turn up on the battle field eventually....
Because the human who knew everything about the Uchiha Clan is on the Battle field. Then the flashback might commence..
Until then we might expect some more trolling, flashbacks, etc....
Sasuke might turn good and fight with Naruto the only chance to match Tobi and Madara, If Kishi is planning on a happy ending, or else a U turn from the plot and same storyline as Oro and Jiraiya..
Any say guys? Any more theories where the plot is heading towards??
What I am guessing is Oro and Sasuke might turn up on the battle field eventually....
Because the human who knew everything about the Uchiha Clan is on the Battle field. Then the flashback might commence..
Until then we might expect some more trolling, flashbacks, etc....
Sasuke might turn good and fight with Naruto the only chance to match Tobi and Madara, If Kishi is planning on a happy ending, or else a U turn from the plot and same storyline as Oro and Jiraiya..
Any say guys? Any more theories where the plot is heading towards??
ImmaculateShadow
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Oh my - reconciliation in deed!
They would be best friends, perhaps soul mates, for a split second before Obito get's sucked in too and would have to face Madara on the other side of the Migration Jutsu. Their fates intertwined - tragic anti-hero rises past his desires for peace at any cost because of the one he shares his eyes with.
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I think obito and madara are related and madara planed the thing of obito being crashed to find his true power . Maybe madara is obito grand dad because obito's ability to control kurama is very good. By the way did u know my birthday falls on the same date as obito?
One thing that I'm wondering about is Obito's MS. If he's so flipping close to Rin and junk, then him hearing about/witnessing her death is probably what awoken it. I don't think he activated it when he was crushed (cmon, he just woke up his sharingan for the first time less than 5 minutes earlier, and he hadn't experienced any loss up to that point. If that's how he survived, then that's just bad storytelling). I'm pretty sure Rin was the one who awoke his MS. Now what I'm wondering is if Kakashi's sharingan is still connected and the MS awoke at the same time, or if it's independent. Which brings up the question, how did Kakashi awaken it, or if he had it all along, how did he learn he had it/how to use it?
Also, i read a theory that Zetsu is made from Madara's and Hashirama's cells. now that's something I haven't thought about. I knew the 1st was involved, but Madara, too? Also, Zetsu has a whole heck of a lot of storywork left, even after this fight. Don't think that this was the last major plot twist. Anyways, Even though I'm sure we would all like a nice, long, elaborate explanation on all of this, I think it would be much better, (artistically, and literatively) for him to reveal the backstory in flashbacks from Tobi's side. Like instead of him explicitly telling them how it went down, their fight will be interjected with scenes from the past told by either Obito or Madara.
Also, i read a theory that Zetsu is made from Madara's and Hashirama's cells. now that's something I haven't thought about. I knew the 1st was involved, but Madara, too? Also, Zetsu has a whole heck of a lot of storywork left, even after this fight. Don't think that this was the last major plot twist. Anyways, Even though I'm sure we would all like a nice, long, elaborate explanation on all of this, I think it would be much better, (artistically, and literatively) for him to reveal the backstory in flashbacks from Tobi's side. Like instead of him explicitly telling them how it went down, their fight will be interjected with scenes from the past told by either Obito or Madara.
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True nagato did use rinne tensei but remember there is a set time to bring them back like wen nagato couldn't bring jiraiya back to life cuz of the time he killed him.
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Dude that sounds legit. Just re-read minato vs tobi, and I have a strong feeling that wasnt obito.... It was zetsu with obitos eye. All obito is is a zetsu clone of obito. Thats why he says it doesn't matter if he survived or not.
Dude that sounds legit. Just re-read minato vs tobi, and I have a strong feeling that wasnt obito.... It was zetsu with obitos eye. All obito is is a zetsu clone of obito. Thats why he says it doesn't matter if he survived or not.
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