People don't understand Hashiramas power

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he said he couldnt walk but he could fly.

And nagato can call back his summons and destroy the forest.

Nagato's counters for the 1st are stronger than the 1st counters for him

Plus what's to stop him from throwing him really high in the air and putting him at a seirous disadvantage. Chakra in his feet or tree branches wont save him cause nagato can lift the ground under him with it.
he meant fly with summons. nagato doesnt fly with deva path. its slow levitation. how does nagato just destroy the forest? hashirama mokuton is equal to or stronger than madaras perfect susano. what are you talking about? nagato wont throw hashirama into the air. nagato lifts the ground under hashirama with what?
 

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In your OP, you claimed "Kabuto said that no one could reach Hashiramas level anymore", when all he said was that there was no-one on his level anymore. There is actually a big difference between what you said and what the manga said. Also, I do believe Nagato was sealed at this point, so that quote would not have included him or many other ninja who had come before.

Dan's comment is so irrelevant. Dan does not know about Edo Madara's powerups. He only knows Madara in his EMS form, so of course he's going to say only Hashirama can stop him, because Hashirama defeated EMS Madara at VOTE. Dan's comment in no way implies that Hashirama > Edo Madara, or that Hashirama is on such a level.

Do you have any evidence that Hashirama's Mokuton > Madara's? Not saying you're wrong, just asking for some evidence.

Your final line is actually quite pathetic, because Nagato was a self proclaimed God and was called the 3rd Sage of 6 Paths. That alone trumps what was said about Hashirama.

Not saying Hashirama is weak or anything, but this thread is just there to turn the heads of the weakminded because of some poor wording and presentation of outright false statements.

This is one well written statement, but the only reason they called Nagato the third sosp was b/c of his rinnegan
 

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he meant fly with summons. nagato doesnt fly with deva path. its slow levitation. how does nagato just destroy the forest? hashirama mokuton is equal to or stronger than madaras perfect susano. what are you talking about? nagato wont throw hashirama into the air. nagato lifts the ground under hashirama with what?
Just cause he hasnt done it before doesnt me an he cant, where are you getting this from? Thats like saying madara cant use amaterasu. If he can push things way from him fast an pull things to him fast he can push himself fast. And he destroys a forest the same way he destroys a village or with the planetary devastation. And what do you mean how does he lift the ground under him? you me to tell me he can summon a metor but he can lift ground under somebody?
 

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Just cause he hasnt done it before doesnt me an he cant, where are you getting this from? Thats like saying madara cant use amaterasu. If he can push things way from him fast an pull things to him fast he can push himself fast. And he destroys a forest the same way he destroys a village or with the planetary devastation. And what do you mean how does he lift the ground under him? you me to tell me he can summon a metor but he can lift ground under somebody?
nagato merely changes the gravitational field around himself. hes not a dbz character. how is me saying that nagato doesnt fly fast, like saying madara cant use amaterasu. you just dont understand how nagatos levitation works so im explaining it. hashirama wouldnt give nagato the opportunity to slowly float in the air and prep a big shinra tensei. planetary devastation is pulled apart from the inside when hashirama makes a forest inside it. when has nagato shown to lift the ground under somebody?
 

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Just cause he hasnt done it before doesnt me an he cant, where are you getting this from? Thats like saying madara cant use amaterasu. If he can push things way from him fast an pull things to him fast he can push himself fast. And he destroys a forest the same way he destroys a village or with the planetary devastation. And what do you mean how does he lift the ground under him? you me to tell me he can summon a metor but he can lift ground under somebody?
what are you talking about? nagato nor pein has ever shown to be able to lift the ground

deva path's ability is to push or pull things from himself, making him as the center

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chibaku tensei is the same, making a small black sphere of chakra he sends it to air and then the sphere starts attracting everything towards itself within a certain range.

he cannot levitate things if thats what you are getting at
 

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nagato merely changes the gravitational field around himself. hes not a dbz character. how is me saying that nagato doesnt fly fast, like saying madara cant use amaterasu. you just dont understand how nagatos levitation works so im explaining it. hashirama wouldnt give nagato the opportunity to slowly float in the air and prep a big shinra tensei. planetary devastation is pulled apart from the inside when hashirama makes a forest inside it. when has nagato shown to lift the ground under somebody?
Like i said if he can push an pull things away fast why cant he push himself fast?

And you havent ansewer my question, are you telling me he can summon a metor but he cant lift up a small part of the ground?
 

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what are you talking about? nagato nor pein has ever shown to be able to lift the ground

deva path's ability is to push or pull things from himself, making him as the center

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chibaku tensei is the same, making a small black sphere of chakra he sends it to air and then the sphere starts attracting everything towards itself within a certain range.

he cannot levitate things if thats what you are getting at
Then what did he do to hinata?
 

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Like i said if he can push an pull things away fast why cant he push himself fast?

And you havent ansewer my question, are you telling me he can summon a metor but he cant lift up a small part of the ground?
because nagato is the center and he can only push things away from him or pull things toward him.
 

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what are you talking about? nagato nor pein has ever shown to be able to lift the ground

deva path's ability is to push or pull things from himself, making him as the center

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chibaku tensei is the same, making a small black sphere of chakra he sends it to air and then the sphere starts attracting everything towards itself within a certain range.

he cannot levitate things if thats what you are getting at
What do you call this thing floatin on it's own?
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Why couldn't Nagato free himself from edo tesei? I know adara and Itachi did itwith shuishi's eye and Madara just flat-out released himself. But Why couldn't Nagato revive himself with the same power he used on the Leaf to bring everyone back?
 

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the fox threw away deva path by turning the force of shinra tensei on him

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even then its clearly written bansho tenin,

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deva pulled that rock and when it got above the fox he let go as simple as that
 
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