Orochimaru is weak in Comparison - With Proof!

[Cascade]

wow i cant believe i read your whole post+every reply. bascially Oro was super strong in part 1 but in ship almost everyone surpassed him. well besides the obvious tenten and ino and sakura and wait jsut about every girl int he orig 11. LOL not being sexist. ya Oro was still a very interesting character but kabuto is doing a good job replacing him. just to sum up all the posts so far ^^

Pretty much - hes strong, still strong, not weak.

other people surpassed him

he was really hyped up in series 1
then power balance changed but oro stayed the same
therefore everyone else started to surpass him

Thats the message of the original post - one that i clearly didnt portray very well as people seem to be confused/disagree with me

kev, basically theres no way to beat someone in an arguement like this because no matter what i say, im not going to be able to change your opinion, and thats what uve said so far, your opinion on who is better than oro, who is weaker, and unfortunately - that u dislike my post - probably due to the fact that it puts down one of your favourite characters a little bit.

 

[Cascade]

this still makes no sense, you say he's weak for his immoral jutsu and how ppl overrate him (ive never seen that). Now, you say your intial post was to say he isnt as strong as others, which had stated nothng along those lines.

I'm waiting for you to come the your senes as of how you failed.

the list you just listed is the worse, as cant even take it serious as Oro could obviously win or lose (tobi)

I just actually had a logical debate against someone else with Oro vs Bee but wont do such things in such a thread like this. Also, the fact that you have to sit there n think of a lis t shows you didnt know what you were talking about, you didnt even know about half the facts regarding others.

ok ive failed, happy? lol you've proved your point, your smart, you know everything. now your done hearing what u wanna hear u can leave. cool

 

[blazekev90]

Pretty much - hes strong, still strong, not weak.

other people surpassed him

he was really hyped up in series 1
then power balance changed but oro stayed the same
therefore everyone else started to surpass him

Thats the message of the original post - one that i clearly didnt portray very well as people seem to be confused/disagree with me

kev, basically theres no way to beat someone in an arguement like this because no matter what i say, im not going to be able to change your opinion, and thats what uve said so far, your opinion on who is better than oro, who is weaker, and unfortunately - that u dislike my post - probably due to the fact that it puts down one of your favourite characters a little bit.

mad?? no, im confused and i dont even think you understand your point as you keep switching up your story.

the fact that we didnt see him fight really and use different techniques in each encounter he had with someone idk how you came to such conclusions except the obvious ones (naruto, tobi, etc)

 

[Cascade]

I don't understand. You say his is weak, but on the other-hand, you say his "OP." Then you say, when others mention him, they overrated or hyped him up to much as this character to be unbeatable. However, you did say you made some mistake at the delivery of the message, which is understandable, but I'm still confuse.

Skimming and read a Post: "hes not as powerful as they make him out to be at the start. the power scaling increased but i believe he stayed the same"

At the beginning, I feel that it was introducing his character and just what and highly fear or respect he has reach in his opening. Kishi may hyped him up to be the big villain, but we all know were he stands in power. He also may not be in the "Power-House" group along with Nagato, Madara, Naruto, Sasuke, etc., but he stills posses the skills, abilities, intelligence that would give them a hard time to kill.

He may have some inhuman characteristics and abilities, but he is still consider human. Meaning, He still could die and he still has feelings. Many my look at this differently, but Orochimaru is just like any other character; Human. (Example: He set up a defense for Four-Tail Kyuubi Naruto TBB. He said so himself that if the attack was to make contact than he is a goner.) That example shows you that Orochimaru is not truly immortal and cares for his life cause if not than he would have to take the attack straight on.

i didnt mean it like that lol, i said hes Weak-er than other people, not weak overall -i just didnt use specific examples lol

people percieve him to be OverPowered and therefore over hype him
and yes, oro hasnt improved IMO since part 1 - allowing a lot of other people to catch up / surpass him.

 

[blazekev90]

ok ive failed, happy? lol you've proved your point, your smart, you know everything. now your done hearing what u wanna hear u can leave. cool

thank you, now i can leave.

 

[Cascade]

mad?? no, im confused and i dont even think you understand your point as you keep switching up your story.

the fact that we didnt see him fight really and use different techniques in each encounter he had with someone idk how you came to such conclusions except the obvious ones (naruto, tobi, etc)

lol im not mad, im just struggling to see the point in your persistant posts where u dont say anything of value.

I have said my point over and over, and its been the same thing over and over, if your ignoring it then thats your doing lol

To me, the abilities in Part 1 demonstrated by Oro are = to abilities he shows in shipp (other than 8 branch = ultimate which is assumed he had before timeskip as itachi knew the technique from when oro was in akatsuki

As for the people i suggested before, they were suggestions on who i think might stand a chance, i was hoping (since ur apparently the 1 and only expert on Oro here) that you could shed some light on it

 

[blazekev90]

lol im not mad, im just struggling to see the point in your persistant posts where u dont say anything of value.

I have said my point over and over, and its been the same thing over and over, if your ignoring it then thats your doing lol

To me, the abilities in Part 1 demonstrated by Oro are = to abilities he shows in shipp (other than 8 branch = ultimate which is assumed he had before timeskip as itachi knew the technique from when oro was in akatsuki

As for the people i suggested before, they were suggestions on who i think might stand a chance, i was hoping (since ur apparently the 1 and only expert on Oro here) that you could shed some light on it

those were shinobi who you "think might" win, yet your was about proof on how he's weak in comparsion to others??? idk how that works.

from the start i didnt take this thread serious and still cant, you arguments idk what you're talking about. still comparing part 1 and 2, but not how this reflect others haha

i must say this was entertaining, i had a few chuckles and :shrug: faces all at once. As you said you didnt want this to be a vs. thread you automatically went against you post, as thats one of the best ways to compare who's stronger than who.

ok, ill leave it at that since you've accepted your flaw whether you wanted to or not. :noc:

 

[Cascade]

those were shinobi who you "think might" win, yet your was about proof on how he's weak in comparsion to others??? idk how that works.

from the start i didnt take this thread serious and still cant, you arguments idk what you're talking about. still comparing part 1 and 2, but not how this reflect others haha

i must say this was entertaining, i had a few chuckles and :shrug: faces all at once. As you said you didnt want this to be a vs. thread you automatically went against you post, as thats one of the best ways to compare who's stronger than who.

ok, ill leave it at that since you've accepted your flaw whether you wanted to or not. :noc:

hahah like baws, nice chatting with you, i did my best to explain this, didnt mage to properly apprently lol

 

[CrimsonH4ze]

Re: Orochimaru is SO weak!

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He was playing with 4. tails.. He is not weak lmao

lmfao that gif is too much.. +rep hahahaha

 

[Bloody Temari]

There still isn't many people who could defeat him. Not having sealing technique or sharingan means a lot of trouble

 

[Joon]

i didnt mean it like that lol, i said hes Weak-er than other people, not weak overall -i just didnt use specific examples lol

people percieve him to be OverPowered and therefore over hype him
and yes, oro hasnt improved IMO since part 1 - allowing a lot of other people to catch up / surpass him.

Its your opinion, but I say otherwise. For a logic stand point, he was weaken because of his Immortality Jutsu. He would have advance, but then the time for him wasn't enough. That is why he needed Sasuke. Without said limits placed, such as his Immortality Jutsu, than he could have progress more like Kabuto or power-full. Also these people you are referring to is "Power-House" I'm guessing, such as Naruto, Pain, Kabuto, Sasuke, Madara, Tobi, etc.

Of course, he can't beat them, but back to what I was saying. He would put up a good fight. Others would also, but he could beat a majority of them. You can say the same with other characters and not just Orochimaru. That is why I don't understand.

 

[tazze019]

Orochimaru is weak

 

[Mante]

Its not nice to say someone is weak by posting all his weakness and ignoring his power

---Didnt read, btw

 

[serpiente clan]

This threat fail broky i seee i trolll a super trollll oro can be killl....

oro oly weaknest is sharingan, and kishi ho trolll him hard.

Oro>naruto sm,km and bm..

The oly ninja ho can beat oro is tobi or minato.
Maybe onoki.

I dont see oro losing to any more ninja...

Aaaa and he never find the sage snake king. Is he get to became sage mode went he was alive he will be. Right now the god of the shinobe world..

 

[The Hero]

If Kabuto is like a fragment of Orochimaru and Sasuke and Itachi had trouble fighting him without genjutsu. Orochimaru is one of the greatest villans within the Narutoverse. We haven't seen the extent of his capabilities yet. Masashi Mishimoto will probably bring him back through Kabuto or some other way. Stop underestimating characters.

 

[HNIC]

It may be your own opinion, but it lacks logic and you seem to contradict your original post. All the post arent valid to the description of the thread, you mention how the power levels changed and how Orochi remained the same, from showing what in part 1 exactly??

Now, my opinion is the he is still one of the strongest in top 15 and could hold his own against the best. Of course he can't beat OP characters, but everyone else is fair game and you lacked evidence providing how he would fair against anyone else. This is really a troll thread, with an attempt to sound logical and fair but this isn't the case at all.

 

[SCRIBBLEoverLIFE]

Oro is Overrated! but then again he took on 2 kage and beat them so....

 

[Cascade]

If Kabuto is like a fragment of Orochimaru and Sasuke and Itachi had trouble fighting him without genjutsu. Orochimaru is one of the greatest villans within the Narutoverse. We haven't seen the extent of his capabilities yet. Masashi Mishimoto will probably bring him back through Kabuto or some other way. Stop underestimating characters.

Firstly, i didnt underestimate him - i know hes strong and have repeated it multiple times
Secondly - Kabuto isn't a 'fragment' of oro - he used oro's research and abilities as a base to improve upon and became a LOT stronger than him

It may be your own opinion, but it lacks logic and you seem to contradict your original post. All the post arent valid to the description of the thread, you mention how the power levels changed and how Orochi remained the same, from showing what in part 1 exactly??

Now, my opinion is the he is still one of the strongest in top 15 and could hold his own against the best. Of course he can't beat OP characters, but everyone else is fair game and you lacked evidence providing how he would fair against anyone else. This is really a troll thread, with an attempt to sound logical and fair but this isn't the case at all.

I never once questioned his strength, and i said very logically in the OP that he didnt deserve his hype because others are comparatively stronger than him. In part 1 he uses edo - in part 2 the only tech. matching up to edo is 8 branch - which we know (thanks to itachi) he already had before shipp - therefore he didnt make any improvements to himself over the time skip.
There is no manga Chapter anywhere of Oro fighting A for E.g. so how am i supposed to prove that lmao, its like a vs thread to do that!

Its not nice to say someone is weak by posting all his weakness and ignoring his power

---Didnt read, btw

yeah u didnt read - i posted his good attributes as well

 

[youngdolce]

umm oro killed a couple of kages, was a member of akatsuki and root, and was a saanin who was suppossed to be hokage had he not been so dark.

 

[quinaboy13]

compared to all the aothers right now he´s weak as a ***********