Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

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I feel like when every country gives there shinobi a flee on sight command when they see minato, THAT BASICALLY IS SAYING "GET THE F**K AWAY BECAUSE HE IS TOOO STRONG". :flaw:
 

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Minato fanboys allow Minato's speed and intelligence to reinforce their already apalling judgement. He does not make the top 10 no matter what way you look at it. This is my top 10 list, I could care less what anybody else thinks so don't concern yourselves with correcting me.

1.Kabuto (Edo-Madara included for those who have the slightest hesitation that he is not Kabutos' property)
2. Tobi
3. Nagato
4. Hashirama
5. BM Naruto
6. Prime Hiruzen ( With all his "hype")
7. Itachi
8. Mū/2nd Mizukage
9. EMS Sasuke
10. Killer Bee
 
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Yagura was a weak child when he was being manipulated...he was only called the perfect jin-nin, because he was supposily been the first to have complete control over his beast....supposily, but if he had the complete control, why didn't his beast detect his flow of chakra disturbed??

He controlled the kyuubi without a host....controlling the 9 tails and the jin-nin of the 3 tails are 2 very different things....

He only used Izagani once....and I hope you guys aren't reffering to his lil space demension a genjutsu because Oro had a space demension also for his body transfer ritual...:scorps:
1. Yagura isn't a child.. He is an adult male with a young, child-like face and body structure.. U can google it if u want proofs..

2. Most importantly, Yagura isn't weak. He was d 4th Mizukage during d tym dat Tobi controlled him. U calling a kage level weak is so infuriating.

3. With or without a host, it's still impressive dat he can control d kyubi as well as d Mizukage perfectly.. a feat dat we've never seen anyone accomplished aside from Uchiha Madara!

4. When the Three-Tails was captured by Akatsuki, it had no host and roamed out in the wild. However, upon Yagura's resurrection, the Three-Tails appears to have been resealed within him. My point here is, it is still uncertain f he was d 3 tails jinchuriki during d tym dat Tobi took control of him, but regardless. my statement was Tobi controlled Yagura (a perfect jinchuriki) a title given to him in d manga.. U over reacted, but still it is unclear f Tobi managed to control Yagura with the tailed beast sealed with in him..

5. Regardless if he used Izanagi once doesn't changed d fact dat he can perform it.. & what's with Oro's dimension? U r so out of topic, I don't rili give a damn about dat jutsu, but as compared to Tobi's established dimension or whatsoever ( don't know d ryt term) Oro's jutsu was nothing.. As i recall Sasuke squealed to let him out in dat dimension.
 

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yeah I agree on everything except I think Itachi considered Madara to be invincible and immortal, he called Tobi a shell of Madara's former self and he believed he/sasuke can beat Tobi and achieve true immortality.
He was referring to Tobi (a.k.a. Madara) during dat tym.. Even now it is still uncertain f Itachi / Nagato knew d true identiy of Tobi.. Tobi as what he believed was Madara, was his mentor, teacher, blah blah..

It's true dat Itachi said Tobi was a pathetic shell of his former self, but if he really think he can beat him, y didn't he challenged him? After all, he stated dat he wanted Uchiha Madara to get killed in d end.
 

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He was referring to Tobi (a.k.a. Madara) during dat tym.. Even now it is still uncertain f Itachi / Nagato knew d true identiy of Tobi.. Tobi as what he believed was Madara, was his mentor, teacher, blah blah..

It's true dat Itachi said Tobi was a pathetic shell of his former self, but if he really think he can beat him, y didn't he challenged him? After all, he stated dat he wanted Uchiha Madara to get killed in d end.
Good point, Itachi would have killed Tobi if he could. He always wanted to protect konoha from the akatsuki.

With that being said, I just remembered Tobi said he would have been dead if Itachi knew everything about him.
 

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i've wonder why minato got flee on sight order NOT JUST IWAGAKURE ninjas. and why not other stronger characters have that flee on sight orders :rofl:
orders from other village if you see a stronger character you should attack them you got a chance but if you see minato run for your lives :rofl: maybe if he tag you he can infiltrate the village since you bring his PORTAL to your village :D
 

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Like I said old Tobi was not top 10 to begin with. Nothing you said changed anything. Tobi was running things behind the scenes he was not enforcing his power on anyone. Itachi was obviously lieing since part 1. Nagato and Tobi had similar goals he wasn't forcing Nagato to do anything.
If u say so den b it... after all ur point of arguments were based from ur suppositions... facts > assumptions..

1. Nagato and Tobi do nat share d same goal.. I suggest u reread manga. (fact)
2. Ddn't Tobi jaz odered / forced Nagato to capture d 9-tailed jinchuriki.. (fact)
3. 1 of Itachi's main goal is to kill Madara (fact)

D fact dat Itachi lied most of d tym (specially in part 1) doesn't necessarily mean he lies all d tym.. For instance, he told Sasuke, he & Tobi killed d rest of d Uchiha Clan.. This revelation as we've witnessed isn't a lie, it's d truth!

If Tobi really isn't dat strong den y would u think SUPER POWER like Nagato follow his orders. If Tobi is WEAk den y would he jaz beat d living hell out of him instead of serving him.. take Sasuke & Orochimaru's case for example!
 

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why is everyone thinks that minato beat people say its a fodder or weak :rofl: he just makes them look like a fodder but not a fodder. look at mahiru he can create 20 shadow clones. shadow clones are jounin level tech. how many jounin can make 20 shadowclones? look at A he almost died in just seconds if bee didnt saved him. tobi was defeated in seconds.
 

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i disagree that Minato is weaker than other ninjas in the manga. if youre talking about physically weak...maybe weaker than other kages...if i were to rank his abilities, it would be:

tai-jutsu - 9/10 (toe to toe with tobi and A(raikage))
nin-jutsu - 10/10 (mastered seal justsus, 90% finished s-rank jutsu + FTG(takes 3 ppl)
gen-jutsu - 5/10 (never showed using it but he was successor of 3rd that knew all)
chakra - 10/10 (showed his potential the day naruto was born and he can summon)
intelligence - 10/10 (always calm and always ahead of the opponent in heat of battle)

score - 8.8/10
ninja ranking - nearly 90% better than all
hokage ranking - no raw power like previous hokages but surpassed all in new techniques
 

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What do we really know about minato? he's highly respected by all other kages including raikage who has high level of chakra and speed he's a devil @ sealing jutsu's and he was the hokage which gave him access to any number of scrolls and forbidden jutsu's that no one will ever know what he could reaalllly do to make him such a highly respected shinobi, plus the fact that he and the raikage and he stopped fighting jus because he was faster than him kinda implies that maybe there are plenty of other attacks he knows that the raikage knows he is capable of and when bee watched naruto perform rasengan he realized it was a human form of the tailed beast ultimate attack so that alone shows extreme brain and formidableness especially since we've no idea what would have happened if tobi wasn't in that fight between him and the fox, he might have been another kage who could face off with a tailed beast... there is no real argument here.. we can never be sure only make speculations
 

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Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

Please don't be silly, I'm no Minato fanboy, nor is he in my top ten, but you have give credit where credit is due!

Minato isn't just fast, he's stupid fast, he b*tch slapped Tobi, a character who hasn't even been touched by the new generation of ninja (excluding Konan). He also out did A, and sparred Bee because he liked him. During the 3rd Great Ninja War he took out a companies worth Shinobi on his own!(as seen in Kakashi Chronicles).

Minato created the Rasengan, as the original we don't truly know it's power ;however, we do know the technique was created to mimic the Bijuu Bomb, which is pretty tits all on it's own.

Not only was his sealing already great, but then he married an Uzumaki who taught him even more sealing techniques, and made him the best in the biz.

I believe it's been stated that he has been the youngest Hokage to this day. One does not become Hokage easily, you must have a variety of skills, you must be wise, and tactical, and your intentions must always be whats best for the village. Such a burdn is not entrusted so easily, we've all seen how douchey the elders of Konoha are, there must've been something special about Minato to win them over.

Over all my argument was lazy, but if that doesn't convince you please tell me who your favorite character is so we can systematically destroy him.

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Only Naruto is maybe stronger than Minato. Kakashi said that he was the best and that the only one who could surpass him is Naruto. Raikage(A) also said that "no one had ever surpassed that man" talking from Minato.
Minato did great by being able to destroy Tobi(who seemed untouchable) in 5secondes without even sweating. He died on his own.

He was clearly on another level.
 

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Good point, Itachi would have killed Tobi if he could. He always wanted to protect konoha from the akatsuki.

With that being said, I just remembered Tobi said he would have been dead if Itachi knew everything about him.
Tobi's ability is really bad for Itachi, he just doesn't have the speed to deal with it and if he doesn't have knowledge of when he materializes it's even worse. Minato on the other hand, had the perfect jutsu and reflexes to counter him. It's also probably why Naruto's speed has been made so insane, otherwise he wouldn't have a chance.
 
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minato i think he has only been shown to do a few techniques he hasn't been shown to do much as he hasn't received much face time in naruto but if those tech are his only capabilities then he quiet weak compared to alot of character in naruto but you can't forget that he is ranked hokage for a reason.
 
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