Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

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Well you caught me on the Tobi and Nagato not having the same views, but did it look like Tobi and Pein ever had conflict of different views.

You're still referring to that 1 part but you know Itachi was lieing. It is unsure what went on between them but Tobi could always run away and it makes it hard to stop him at all times. Itachi set the ama up on Sasuke so that Tobi does not come in contact to Sasuke. This has been pointed out many times.

Right here Tobi says he couldnt have done it without everyones help and they all joined on their free will.



I asked you to point out where Tobi forces his power on anyone and you gave me konan lol

Tobi and Pein are on the same page


1. U'd jaz show me d page where Tobi is giving orders to Pain.. This is contrary to what u stated before that Pain never took orders from Tobi..

2. Tobi & Nagato shared different goals as I thoroughly explained to u. Thus this will create a conflict in their interest. The conflict never occurred before because Tobi doesn't have d knowledge of Pain's true intention since Nagato & Konan were the only AkatsuKI members who were aware of their plans. On the other hand, Nagato knew that Tobi's goal was far different from his, Tobi told Pain that capturing the tailed beast will bring back his sharingan to its full power. Whatever the scenario are, even the 4th Hokage believed that Tobi is using Nagato for his advantage & not the other way around..

3. Itachi isn't lying when he told Sasuke that in the end he wanted Uchiha Madara to get killed.. It's one of his goals, if u want proofs, jaz google it. I'm not basing my arguments through an ambiguous assumptions, that wasn't my style & that's why I'm giving u facts, if it still hard for u to accept or to understand den it's no longer my concern. It's pretty obvious to me now that you are an Uchiha Fanboi!

4. Tobi says he couldn't have done it without everyone's help and they all joined on their free will. Yes this is true, but if you take that for consideration then you should also remember that Deidara was forced by Itachi to join the AKATSUKI & not by his own free will. It doesn't really matter if Tobi couldn't have done it without the Akasuki's help because he needed them to achieve his ultimate goal. That's the very essence why he created AKATSUKI.
 

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The pt is what was minato's full arsenal was not shown 2 us bcos he was said 2 have learnt many sealin jutsus and evn created jutsus (which I blive are all in the forbidden scrol of the 4th hokage spoken by gai earlier). And also the socalld gr8t ninjas U mentiond where all alive when he was cald the dreaded yelow flash. How culd he have gaind the title if not also 4 a quick bt pwfl finisher.
 

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Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.
You dont think a seal can break susanoo? Minato is a master at that.

Just saying!
 

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The pt is what was minato's full arsenal was not shown 2 us bcos he was said 2 have learnt many sealin jutsus and evn created jutsus (which I blive are all in the forbidden scrol of the 4th hokage spoken by gai earlier). And also the socalld gr8t ninjas U mentiond where all alive when he was cald the dreaded yelow flash. How culd he have gaind the title if not also 4 a quick bt pwfl finisher.
Da fuq did I just read?:)

Minato isn't even the top 10 so no I don't consider him to be ultimate. But he isn't a push over either.
 

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i agree only to the extent that we have seen, but there is a slight bias in this since alot of jutsu minato had aren't revealed and when they are people will make threads like this again i guess. But yes in terms of raw power it does seem he current lacks that from what is shown about him. But come on alot of people haved changed their top 10 since kabuto, tobi, raikage, muu, and the more awesomeness of the hashirama were revealed.

Trust me when i say this that when more info is given on minato it shall change again kishi doesn't hype a character for nothing and its only itachi that rival minato hype in this manga imo.
 

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Minato is one of the stronger shinobi that we have seen imo

He knows shape manipulation to the highlest level, and formed his own version of S/T jutsu (which can teleport himself, opponents and attacks). The opponent wouldn't see it coming. We also know that he is a master at sealing, which has a record of doing good against things heavily chakra based (which makes sense, sealing chakra isn't uncommon). He was able to summon Gamabunta, and the DB states that the ones who can summon the chief toad can summon any of the other toads - so you can think of the possibility. Lastly, he has the intelligence to use it properly. He seems to be on level w/ Itachi when it comes to analyzing jutsu (waiting to get raged for that).

The best thing is that he did all this with limited panel time. Can you imagine Minato having the panel time of some other ninja? It gives him new powers such as the sensing he's shown with Kakashi.
 

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Why do people put dead-naruto charc against current strenght naruto charc... you people are just to dumb to understand that when you train you get stronger and when your dead your not kinda training for example minato has been dead for 16 +/- years if you put him against sm-kabuto your not really looking at the point minato hasnt trained for more then a decade
 

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Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.
We havent seen enough of Minato to say he has no power moves plus look at what he did to the Raikage and bee 2 vs 1 he whooped them and they have very powerful defenses
 
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