How Hashirama can defend/counter the six paths.

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There you go again, relying on the storyline to back up your argument. I have explained it to you countless of times that if it wasnt for plot no jutsu Naruto would be dead. Why cant you understand that? Seriously all of you arguments I've seen in the past are as if the storyline has an effect on versus threads.
Kabuto specifically mentioned the reason why it happened didnt he its not plot no jutsu. nagato fans just dont admit that without his shared vision he is very vulnerable. Its not plot no jutsu no kishi specifically gave us a page with kabuto saying its due to his blinding of shared vision that nagato got hit. Stop saying plot no jutsu on everything
 

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@dante nagato's chakra seeing wont help him as seen in the manga against itachi and naruto if it did he would not need his shared vision lol. Bringer of darkness would blind all the summons and nagato and once that happens it would the same case with itachi's totsuka piercing him in their last fight.

nagato fans keep saying plot no jutsu at any of his weakness its really funny to see. If nagato is blinded all hashi needs is one finishing blow and nagato would have a hard time avoiding it since he is blind and lacks mobility.

 

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Kabuto specifically mentioned the reason why it happened didnt he its not plot no jutsu. nagato fans just dont admit that without his shared vision he is very vulnerable. Its not plot no jutsu no kishi specifically gave us a page with kabuto saying its due to his blinding of shared vision that nagato got hit. Stop saying plot no jutsu on everything
dosent have a good argument, soooo he resorts to saying that the story is wrong..kinda like saying a human isnt a human. according to his and dantee's logic, konohamaru can easily defeat KillerBee.
 

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You've got a pretty big ego. But you need to admit that what you posted is the same thing I've been saying, dumbnuts.

And why would anyone agree with you, who's logic is...

Tsunade can defeat Edo Tobirama. :sy:
go learn how to learn.

No that is not my logic. That is the sort of logic ur just implying me on. Don't try to put motherflippen words in my motherflippen post. Not onnce have I said anything or the sort about since sucha so beat sucha so he can beat god. No infact that is ur logic when in the shiinobi world fights can be easily won due to just bad matchups.
Sign off NB and learn how to read.

What I said was by feats shown nagato wins.
 

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dosent have a good argument, soooo he resorts to saying that the story is wrong..kinda like saying a human isnt a human. according to his and dantee's logic, konohamaru can easily defeat KillerBee.
yes i dont get it. why is it plot no jutsu when kabuto specifically stated the reason for nagato's defeat so plainly. Blaming the plot for that is so stupid and nagato is great and all but not the best unlike some fans think.
 

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@the eye if it wasnt also for plot no jutsu nagato would have died just to naruto. no need for others such as bee but he made naruto go on all battlefields for a reason. Imagine nagato trying to take on 12 KM clones and of those clones who can create sm clones. Nagato would have died much easier but PLot made it so that all his clones were elsewhere. You're only thinking from one line lol and yes if it werent for itachi naruto would have died not THE PLOT BUT ITACHI .
 

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No that is not my logic. That is the sort of logic ur just implying me on. Don't try to put motherflippen words in my motherflippen post. Not onnce have I said anything or the sort about since sucha so beat sucha so he can beat god. No infact that is ur logic when in the shiinobi world fights can be easily won due to just bad matchups.
Sign off NB and learn how to read.

What I said was by feats shown nagato wins.
Sign off NB and learn to spell.
Im not putting words in your mouth, that's just your logic.
 

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Hashirama can create more than one forest.

You guys keep saying that gedo mazo will get him but how is that going to happen when Hashirama can just hide in his forest until Nagato has to default quite the technique. Seriously the forest's are this big



How is Nagato going to find hashirama????

Another thing is the Bringer of darkness. It really doesn't matter Hashirama doesn't need it to fight Nagato. And it still will stop his eyesight that was my point it gives him a distraction to get out of a tight situation. And similar to how Itachi used Susanoo to get naruto and bee out of their pradicament Hashirama can use a huge branch to smash the connection to human path.

You guys keep saying well hashirama can only do one thing at a time and Nagato can do all of these things at the same time. Really??? He was a ninja who was considered the best of his time he isn't going to be beaten by Nagato from simple tricks.

Hashirama can destroy the animal paths!!! what dont you get they have chakra in them and can be supressed and how are they going to run around in hashirama's forest without getting caught? So one can fly it isnt going to do much unless it comes to attack hashirama so as soon as that happens he is catching it with mokuton then they are out for the fight. Hashirama doesnt have to put to much time on them because all he needs to do is wait for his forest to catch or knock them unconcious.

And people seem to forget this battle would be taking place in a forest made by hashirama. Nagato wont even know where he is at and will have an even harder time finding hashirama while he is attcking from far.

The paths powers will suprise him since he doesnt have intel but Nagato will not one shot him before Hashirama figurs out most of them.

And after Nagato uses a shinra tensai to push Hashirama's forest aside Hashirama will just make another one. then nagato has just wasted his best ability.

Hashirama wins
 

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Hashirama can create more than one forest.

You guys keep saying that gedo mazo will get him but how is that going to happen when Hashirama can just hide in his forest until Nagato has to default quite the technique. Seriously the forest's are this big



How is Nagato going to find hashirama????

Another thing is the Bringer of darkness. It really doesn't matter Hashirama doesn't need it to fight Nagato. And it still will stop his eyesight that was my point it gives him a distraction to get out of a tight situation. And similar to how Itachi used Susanoo to get naruto and bee out of their pradicament Hashirama can use a huge branch to smash the connection to human path.

You guys keep saying well hashirama can only do one thing at a time and Nagato can do all of these things at the same time. Really??? He was a ninja who was considered the best of his time he isn't going to be beaten by Nagato from simple tricks.

Hashirama can destroy the animal paths!!! what dont you get they have chakra in them and can be supressed and how are they going to run around in hashirama's forest without getting caught? So one can fly it isnt going to do much unless it comes to attack hashirama so as soon as that happens he is catching it with mokuton then they are out for the fight. Hashirama doesnt have to put to much time on them because all he needs to do is wait for his forest to catch or knock them unconcious.

And people seem to forget this battle would be taking place in a forest made by hashirama. Nagato wont even know where he is at and will have an even harder time finding hashirama while he is attcking from far.

The paths powers will suprise him since he doesnt have intel but Nagato will not one shot him before Hashirama figurs out most of them.

And after Nagato uses a shinra tensai to push Hashirama's forest aside Hashirama will just make another one. then nagato has just wasted his best ability.

Hashirama wins
hey man,if u wait for a while you will be able to see the rinnegan's weakness in the following manga....!kishi is bound to show it!:shrug:.....then,you will be able to properly counter their statements!;)

right now,if u try to put sense in the nagato fans in this thread they won't understand!xdi tried myself,but gave up,cauz i didn't have enough statements to counter act!i could have extended it using other points i had in mind,but it would go on and on.U_U

so what i'm suggesting is that u wait for the upcoming manga chapters and we will definitely see the rinnegan's weaknesses revealed one by one!the these guys won't be able to deny what u say!
 

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Hiruzen beated " edo hashi & edo tobirama while fighting oro when he was in 59/69 years old.( I don't know well but he was very old.) . So Hiruzen could beat anyone.this discussion is over. ( sorry but this is your logic hashi fan boyz :( )
 

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Kabuto specifically mentioned the reason why it happened didnt he its not plot no jutsu. nagato fans just dont admit that without his shared vision he is very vulnerable. Its not plot no jutsu no kishi specifically gave us a page with kabuto saying its due to his blinding of shared vision that nagato got hit. Stop saying plot no jutsu on everything
Firstly I'm no ones fanboy but when I see an exaggeration or unfairness then I have to step in to bring you lot back to reality. Your Bringer of Darkness is the only chance Hashirama has of winning but guess what? even that has its many flaws as I mentioned in the past that you overlooked. If you want your mind refreshed as to how Bringer of Darkness can be countered then read this -



dosent have a good argument, soooo he resorts to saying that the story is wrong..kinda like saying a human isnt a human. according to his and dantee's logic, konohamaru can easily defeat KillerBee.
And dont even get me started on you lol, according to you DBZ logic works well on Naruto. Well done love, well done. :sy:
 

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hey man,if u wait for a while you will be able to see the rinnegan's weakness in the following manga....!kishi is bound to show it!:shrug:.....then,you will be able to properly counter their statements!;)

right now,if u try to put sense in the nagato fans in this thread they won't understand!xdi tried myself,but gave up,cauz i didn't have enough statements to counter act!i could have extended it using other points i had in mind,but it would go on and on.U_U

so what i'm suggesting is that u wait for the upcoming manga chapters and we will definitely see the rinnegan's weaknesses revealed one by one!the these guys won't be able to deny what u say!
Your right thanks and they seem to forget that Hashirama is going to be shown a lot more and his powers will be shown then they will be the one on the defensive ;)

Firstly I'm no ones fanboy but when I see an exaggeration or unfairness then I have to step in to bring you lot back to reality. Your Bringer of Darkness is the only chance Hashirama has of winning but guess what? even that has its many flaws as I mentioned in the past that you overlooked. If you want your mind refreshed as to how Bringer of Darkness can be countered then read this -





And dont even get me started on you lol, according to you DBZ logic works well on Naruto. Well done love, well done. :sy:
He wont even need bringer of darkness
 

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Your right thanks and they seem to forget that Hashirama is going to be shown a lot more and his powers will be shown then they will be the one on the defensive ;)




He wont even need bringer of darkness

-Looks like your admitting your wrong and you fail for making this thread?

- You mean we destroyed ur bringer of darkness will pwn Nagato theory??
 

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Firstly I'm no ones fanboy but when I see an exaggeration or unfairness then I have to step in to bring you lot back to reality. Your Bringer of Darkness is the only chance Hashirama has of winning but guess what? even that has its many flaws as I mentioned in the past that you overlooked. If you want your mind refreshed as to how Bringer of Darkness can be countered then read this -





And dont even get me started on you lol, according to you DBZ logic works well on Naruto. Well done love, well done. :sy:
DBZ is better Logic than all your specualtion, all Im saying is wait till hashirama has shown to go all out like Nagato has. Then, once we've seen hashirama use his best techniques, we can truly see who could be stronger. But as I've said many times already, its basically

Nagato VS Hashirama holding back his powers.
 

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Firstly I'm no ones fanboy but when I see an exaggeration or unfairness then I have to step in to bring you lot back to reality. Your Bringer of Darkness is the only chance Hashirama has of winning but guess what? even that has its many flaws as I mentioned in the past that you overlooked. If you want your mind refreshed as to how Bringer of Darkness can be countered then read this -





And dont even get me started on you lol, according to you DBZ logic works well on Naruto. Well done love, well done. :sy:
I am the one who exaggerates no all i did was stated that nagato and his summons are blinded by his bringer of darkness jutsu and this puts him in a vulnerable position. please man nagato can use all paths at one go and such nonsense, he only got hit by totsuka and other attacks is plot no jutsu when kabuto clearly stated the reason makes it pretty clear. You nagato fans are the ones who have to brought back to what to reality.


EDIT: To that thread yes the jutsu is not perfect but if we are only talking about nagato, it doesnt change the fact of the matter his paths arent going to be used affciently since he does not know where his opponents are. he is still very vulnerable to a killing blow as such as i showed you proof countless timed of nagato without his other sights


itachi easily got him and this sue to his weakness that without his shared vision he is vulnerable to attacks.

AND no its not plot no jutsu when kabuto specifically describes it here



And in nagato's case as soon as hashi uses his bringer of darkness he has no line of sight unlike itachi's attack where he still had his own vision intact. Hashi has a good tech against nagato's biggest weakness and thats why i think he wins if he is fast effective in delivering the killing blow.
 
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