How Hashirama can defend/counter the six paths.

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
!st path Animal path

Hashirama has fought several tailed beasts and with mokuton can restrict movement of them. I know that mokuton has the ability to drain chakra from stuff but he wouldnt have to do so for non-tailed animals since summons are considerably weaker.

2nd path Asura path

Hashirama can regenerate himself better than tsunade who can heal herself extremely fast and most of these robotic abilities are blasting things or extra arms. Hashirama can grow mokuton from his own body and escape grabs or block any of these attacks and if he is hit he can heal himself and counter.

3rd path Petra path

So I have looked it over and i believe that mokuton can be absorbed with petra path. But petra path is not always active and by that i mean it isn't automatic but my counter to this is that Hashirama used a lot of weapons to fight and with mokuton+weapons he can hit nagato pretty easily.




Now dont flame i know this is 100% non cannon but this is what he can do and the picture of him with the weapons around him proves that he used weapons well enough to use them in a real battle.

4th path of pain Human path

As we saw in the battle against Naruto bee vs. Nagato human path is not automatic. If hashirama gets caught in this he can push himself away or attack Nagato with weapons or weapon summons. But for this i dont believe Hashirama will get close enough to let Nagato use this technique on him.

5th path Naraka path

Only relevent when the human path is used.

6th path Deva path

so Hashirama can counter this in many ways for starters his push and pull abilities can be stopped by using mokuton to hold himself down or he can attack and counter Nagato while being pulled. As for shinra tensai Nagato has a five second interval and can be attacked easily from the ground by Hashirama so it would be easy to get him that way. As for a shinra tensai on the scale of the one that destroyed kanoha, Hashirama can use mokuton to defend himself and cushion the blow and heal right afterwards and Nagato's deva ability would be down for a while which gives Hashirama a big upper hand.

Chibaku tensai can be countered by mokuton through the use of growing trees! since chibaku tensai does not immidiatly pull you up there it can be beat before you leave the ground! as soon as some trees are up there Hashirama can grow the trees through the rock to the core and destroy it from there.

Gedo Mazo is countered by using mokuton to drain its chakra



Now where it gets fun is Hashirama and his Mokuton his ability to chnge the battlefield create poison flowers that can knock unconciouss kage level ninja

use bringer of darkness which will stop him from seeing chakra.
and i would like another post to see where in the manga it says he can see chakra because it could have helped him here



here (read chapter and one after it)



and here



But this is my reasoning as to why Hashirama beats Nagato
 

~Anubis~

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
17,217 posts 298 reactions
Joined
Aug 19, 2009
Messages
17,217
Status
Activity Streak
nice thought:D
 

Pizcobaby

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
698 posts 35 reactions
Joined
Dec 21, 2010
Messages
698
Status
Activity Streak
where does it every say he can regen himself? and could he do all this at once lol?
 

Dantee

Member
45,244 posts 3,260 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Status
Activity Streak
You forget the fact Nagato can use these Paths at multiple times and Harishima won't be able to counter them all at once. Rinnegan can see chakra and the 8 animal paths have shared vision. I don't see how Mokoton would be able to hold down Shinra Tensei that was able to obliterate a whole village. Where does it show Hashirama growing Mokoton from his own body. More assumptions after assumptions/
 

zerimus

Member
235 posts 10 reactions
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
235
Status
Activity Streak
what about the fact that he's always in the best standing with his surroundings.

if he isn't he just grows himself a forest and make it great for him.
 

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
You forget the fact Nagato can use these Paths at multiple times and Harishima won't be able to counter them all at once. Rinnegan can see chakra and the 8 animal paths have shared vision. I don't see how Mokoton would be able to hold down Shinra Tensei that was able to obliterate a whole village. Where does it show Hashirama growing Mokoton from his own body. More assumptions after assumptions/

Its the same thing that Yamoto does his wood clone
sorry for using narupedia but its better than finding manga
 

Dantee

Member
45,244 posts 3,260 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Status
Activity Streak
I would love to see Hashirama hold himself down from Deva Path. While restraining 4-8 boss summonings and healing himself at the same time.
 

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
I would love to see Hashirama hold himself down from Deva Path. While restraining 4-8 boss summonings and healing himself at the same time.

He would drain the chakra from the summons until they are reversed summoned and he is going to be in a huge forest that has poison flowers that can put nagato to sleep ;)
 

Ambriel

Banned
Veteran
3,194 posts 98 reactions
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
3,194
Status
Activity Streak
He cant he will die
 

Universal Enlightenment

Sage of Six Posts 🔮
Immortal
92,934 posts 1,539 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
92,934
Status
Activity Streak
The rinnengan lets you see chakra flow


You must be registered for see images


Nagato is waaaaaayyyyyy to much for the first hokage bro lets be honest now xd
 

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
The rinnengan lets you see chakra flow


You must be registered for see images


Nagato is waaaaaayyyyyy to much for the first hokage bro lets be honest now xd

alright but its still only sometimes but he should have done it with the other examples :(
 

Ambriel

Banned
Veteran
3,194 posts 98 reactions
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
3,194
Status
Activity Streak
sometimes i see your picture in my posts and feel like punching you through the computer .........your the only person on the base that i feel this way about.......

Thank u, im flattered that u feel that way
 

Dantee

Member
45,244 posts 3,260 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Status
Activity Streak
He would drain the chakra from the summons until they are reversed summoned and he is going to be in a huge forest that has poison flowers that can put nagato to sleep ;)

You forget Nagato can fly and asorb any ninjutsu. How far back do you believe Nagato will allow Hashirama to push him. He can always control his center of gravity. He also has mastered all 5 elements so he definetly has katon to counter.
 

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
You forget Nagato can fly and asorb any ninjutsu. How far back do you believe Nagato will allow Hashirama to push him. He can always control his center of gravity. He also has mastered all 5 elements so he definetly has katon to counter.

What is he going to do if he flys?

and Madara was a master in Katon and look how it turned out for him ;)
 

Dantee

Member
45,244 posts 3,260 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Status
Activity Streak
What is he going to do if he flys?

and Madara was a master in Katon and look how it turned out for him ;)

We don't know how that battle went so don't make it sound Madara got owned easily. Katon obviously burns wood. But if that doesn't work Nagato has the rest of the 4 elements to his arsenal.
 

narutownsyouall

Banned
Regular
1,682 posts 71 reactions
Joined
Dec 30, 2011
Messages
1,682
Status
Activity Streak
How are those going to help him? rock beats water and water beats katon lightning is all he really has and trees can take in lightning (science)
 

Dantee

Member
45,244 posts 3,260 reactions
2
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Status
Activity Streak
How are those going to help him? rock beats water and water beats katon lightning is all he really has and trees can take in lightning (science)

He can use all 5 elements is nothing more than backup towards his power of the 6 paths. Honestly Nagato is just too powerfull for Hashirama.

Pretty much what your saying in this thread is that Hashirama can hold down all the boss summonings with shared vision of Nagato btw. While taking on a gravity fighting power. Nagatos mastery of the 5 elements while hes able to asorb ninjutsu. I'm tired of spelling the rest out for you. You get the point
 

LolaxXx

Banned
Veteran
4,424 posts 273 reactions
Joined
Oct 22, 2011
Messages
4,424
Status
Activity Streak
enough with this nagato VS Hashirama bs..nobody has seen hashirama's full powers
 
Top