How Hashirama can defend/counter the six paths.

[LolaxXx]

but it doesnt just tell you where the opponents just out of nowhere. there is a reason why he uses the shared vision since it stops all blind spots. But when blinded he is vulnerable to attacks as seen in the manga. But he cant just magically see where all the attacks are coming from that completely contradicts whatever happened in the manga and what kabuto said.

Yup..and thats a huge disadvantage..Hashirama can create a thick forest, get into range, whatever range the genjutsu is, and use it. but it looked like the jutsu covered a wide range in the anime.

 

[LolaxXx]

When do the animals have to be right next to Nagato to support him? They can easily fly away or do their own thing while NAgato does his. The Hiruzen and Enma situation was different because they were trapped in a barrier limiting movement.

I understand but sense it's close range whats to stop him from looking at Harishima and attacking him.

I do agree however Nagato will be vurnable in this situation but it is way to convienant and unlikely to happen.

every single time nagato has summoned, the summons have appeared right next to him and have attacked as soon as they were summoned. Unless he was using them to hide, or fly on. They dont just appear and fly off and do their own thing. Nagato would summon them to attack, and hashi could just blind them as well, or use a giant mokuton and trap them.

 

[arv993]

When do the animals have to be right next to Nagato to support him? They can easily fly away or do their own thing while NAgato does his. The Hiruzen and Enma situation was different because they were trapped in a barrier limiting movement.

I understand but sense it's close range whats to stop him from looking at Harishima and attacking him.

I do agree however Nagato will be vurnable in this situation but it is way to convienant and unlikely to happen.

Do u understand they too are blind and havent you seen how easily hashi can bind things especially since he has the advantage over them since they are blinded. only one of them can fly. One tech and they can be restrained as seen how fast and swift mokuton is.

how is nagato gonna look at him and attack him when he is blind dont you see something wrong with that statement. And this tech is mid range also not necessarily short range

you're dismissing it becos its convenient what kind of logic is that. some techs just work really well on ppl like sage mode on preta path same how this tech works well on limiting nagato's shared vision. just becos a tech is very effective does not mean its unlikely to occur.

 

[arv993]

every single time nagato has summoned, the summons have appeared right next to him and have attacked as soon as they were summoned. Unless he was using them to hide, or fly on. They dont just appear and fly off and do their own thing. Nagato would summon them to attack, and hashi could just blind them as well, or use a giant mokuton and trap them.

as long as they are in range and since being next to nagato when summoned they are blind. They dont where hashi is he has clear advantage in restraining them with his mokuton techs

 

[LolaxXx]

LMAO...looks like the Nagato defense is starting to crumble, arguments that made no sense before is starting to sound worse.

I mean, you might as well post "Goo goo ga ga." instead of long paragraphs because no matter that any nagato fanboyer says..its pointless, UNTIL..All of hashirama's powers have been shown like nagato's has.

 

[Dantee]

every single time nagato has summoned, the summons have appeared right next to him and have attacked as soon as they were summoned. Unless he was using them to hide, or fly on. They dont just appear and fly off and do their own thing. Nagato would summon them to attack, and hashi could just blind them as well, or use a giant mokuton and trap them.

The fact is they could just fly and do their own thing. Why couldn't they? They are not restricted by the users proximity. Now if he was fighting Pein what would he do?

Do u understand they too are blind and havent you seen how easily hashi can bind things especially since he has the advantage over them since they are blinded. only one of them can fly. One tech and they can be restrained as seen how fast and swift mokuton is.

how is nagato gonna look at him and attack him when he is blind dont you see something wrong with that statement. And this tech is mid range also not necessarily short range

you're dismissing it becos its convenient what kind of logic is that. some techs just work really well on ppl like sage mode on preta path same how this tech works well on limiting nagato's shared vision. just becos a tech is very effective does not mean its unlikely to occur.

You're also exaggerating the ability he can activate the technique and then instantly use mokoton that much has not been seen from Harishima

 

[LolaxXx]

The fact is they could just fly and do their own thing. Why couldn't they? They are not restricted by the users proximity. Now if he was fighting Pein what would he do?

Whenever pain has summoned he summons to attack. or ride on it. if they did their own thing. that would be pointless because if pain summoned just to have his animal fly away, then it would be like it never happened. and if it came back to attack, hashi could effortlessly stop it with a mokuton.

 

[arv993]

The fact is they could just fly and do their own thing. Why couldn't they? They are not restricted by the users proximity. Now if he was fighting Pein what would he do?

as i said b4 when they are summoned they are also blind meaning they are vulnerable to hashi techs. you think hashi doesnt understand that his own tech has a range and would just let the bird fly u gotta be kidding me. he can restarin them easy especially since they cant even see him when they are summoned.

 

[arv993]

The fact is they could just fly and do their own thing. Why couldn't they? They are not restricted by the users proximity. Now if he was fighting Pein what would he do?







You're also exaggerating the ability he can activate the technique and then instantly use mokoton that much has not been seen from Harishima

like i said he can activate the bringer of darkness when he wants even b4 nagato summons his bird and animals. he doesnt have to do it at once who told you that. and mokuton has been used very fast enough to create a forest in few secs

 

[LolaxXx]

You're also exaggerating the ability he can activate the technique and then instantly use mokoton that much has not been seen from Harishima

ONCE AGAIN...thats what I've been saying! Yet you still sit there trying to compare the two..SMFH.
Nagato VS Hashirama holding back his power is what this thread is.

 

[arv993]

Whenever pain has summoned he summons to attack. or ride on it. if they did their own thing. that would be pointless because if pain summoned just to have his animal fly away, then it would be like it never happened. and if it came back to attack, hashi could effortlessly stop it with a mokuton.

first of all he is not stupid enough to not know his techs have a range why would he let the bird fly, second it starts off blind as its always summoned next to nagato or very close to him hashi has a clear advantage in restraining the summons since they start off blind.

 

[Dantee]

as i said b4 when they are summoned they are also blind meaning they are vulnerable to hashi techs. you think hashi doesnt understand that his own tech has a range and would just let the bird fly u gotta be kidding me. he can restarin them easy especially since they cant even see him when they are summoned.

I'm confused by this sorry. how will they be blind when they are just summoned. Are you saying if Hari will begin the battle with Bringer of Darkness? I know for a fact Nagato will use summonings because he always does.

ONCE AGAIN...thats what I've been saying! Yet you still sit there trying to compare the two..SMFH.
Nagato VS Hashirama holding back his power is what this thread is.

ONCE AGAIN...thats what I've been saying! Yet you still sit there trying to compare the two..SMFH.
Nagato VS Hashirama holding back his power is what this thread is.

I don't understand why I'm the only one your coming at with this when clearly I'm not the only debating. Do you have a crush on me or something? <3

I still stand by what I said By feats shown Nagato wins

 

[sarutobi01843]

I find it funny how the recent mangas come out stating hashirama is pretty much the strongest of shinobi other then madara but all these versus threads come out saying hashirama is weaker then nagato who yes we know more of because we have seen him more but that doesnt mean anything hashi has way more techniques it is said that the hokage has to know 1000 techs and hashi coming from a time of war he probably new more then that you cant say nagato is stronger when all you know is 2 moves that hashi himself didnt do!!!! you have no clue of hashi fighting ability strength tactics nothing im so tired of seeing bull crap like this and people acting like they know everything about hashi when they dont!!!!!!!

 

[arv993]

I'm confused by this sorry. how will they be blind when they are just summoned. Are you saying if Hari will begin the battle with Bringer of Darkness? I know for a fact Nagato will use summonings because he always does.







I don't understand why I'm the only one your coming at with this when clearly I'm not the only debating. Do you have a crush on me or something? <3

I still stand by what I said by feats shown[/B NAgato wins

lol as long as they are in the range they under his genjutsu similar to enma who was never specially put in genjutsu. everyone doesnt need to have to have genjutsu done on them. its not eye contact genjutsu but more like jiraya's frog style genjutsu which is based on its range.

And we know that they are summoned right next to nagato or close to him

yes i really think girls get crushes on dudes who they argue with about naruto xd

 

[Dantee]

lol as long as they are in the range they under his genjutsu similar to enma who was never specially put in genjutsu. everyone doesnt need to have to have genjutsu done on them. its not eye contact genjutsu but more like jiraya's frog style genjutsu which is based on its range.

I see now. Well that could definetly give Nagato problems but he could always just deva path out of his range. + rep

 

[LolaxXx]

I don't understand why I'm the only one your coming at with this when clearly I'm not the only debating. Do you have a crush on me or something? <3

I still stand by what I said By feats shown Nagato wins

because you know Im right.
and talk about feats...

Nagato defeated Jiraya, Hanzo, blew up konoha but lost most of his chakra in doing so..
got his ass handed to him by sage mode naruto for a bit.
but ultimate got handled by 6tails and would have died againts the full 9tails.

Hashirama created all of konoha and the forests around it. Could tame any biiju, went head to head with kurama and the most powerful Uchiha in history, Madara Uchiha.

Madara uchiha > any other uchiha, EMS madara can take Nagato out easily.

When i see nagato with the power to have a decent all-out fight against Kurama full power and Madara, then i might agree.

but as for feats. Hashirama has better feats.

 

[arv993]

I see now. Well that could definetly give Nagato problems but he could always just deva path out of his range. + rep

that well depends on if hashi attacks fast or not. if we are talking about a fight to the death i dont see why he wont kill him when he is vulnerable

 

[LolaxXx]

that well depends on if hashi attacks fast or not. if we are talking about a fight to the death i dont see why he wont kill him when he is vulnerable

+rep. your the 1st person I've ever seen talk sense into a fanboy.

Your like Naruto who tries to deal with conflict through talking, Im like Nagato who deals with it by force, haha.

 

[arv993]

because you know Im right.
and talk about feats...

Nagato defeated Jiraya, Hanzo, blew up konoha but lost most of his chakra in doing so..
got his ass handed to him by sage mode naruto for a bit.
but ultimate got handled by 6tails and would have died againts the full 9tails.

Hashirama created all of konoha and the forests around it. Could tame any biiju, went head to head with kurama and the most powerful Uchiha in history, Madara Uchiha.

Madara uchiha > any other uchiha, EMS madara can take Nagato out easily.

When i see nagato with the power to have a decent all-out fight against Kurama full power and Madara, then i might agree.

but as for feats. Hashirama has better feats.

i think he meant on panel feats but regardless a feat is a feat.

 

[arv993]

+rep. your the 1st person I've ever seen talk sense into a fanboy.

Your like Naruto who tries to deal with conflict through talking, Im like Nagato who deals with it by force, haha.

thanks. lol at talk no jutsu reference