[Debate] Does God exist?
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Sage of Infinity Paths
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the question is, why do you people need to belive? Let's say, hypothetically speaking, some god exists... What does that change in your lifes?
Let's now suppose there is heaven and hell... What do you think the criteria will be for whether you should go? Your faith in that god, or your actions in your life? Do you think kind people like Gandi, will go to hell, just because they did not belive in your god? If there is a being like a god, do you think he won't be able to see if you pretend to be good just to please him?
So, why do you need a god? Chances are, he does not exist, but even if he does, what is the point in having faith in him? Live your lifes in the best and most honest way you can, and if he ends up existing, then good for you. If he does not, you still win, having followed your heart instead of some instructions from some book...
Let's now suppose there is heaven and hell... What do you think the criteria will be for whether you should go? Your faith in that god, or your actions in your life? Do you think kind people like Gandi, will go to hell, just because they did not belive in your god? If there is a being like a god, do you think he won't be able to see if you pretend to be good just to please him?
So, why do you need a god? Chances are, he does not exist, but even if he does, what is the point in having faith in him? Live your lifes in the best and most honest way you can, and if he ends up existing, then good for you. If he does not, you still win, having followed your heart instead of some instructions from some book...
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NarutoVsGoku
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no i was asking if you were a moron. asking. sorry. i just read your question and i just couldnt help myself from asking but sorry
lol only thing im bothered by is how some people can think a certain way. im dumb founded everytime.
illogical? do you feel more logical now that you dont believe? lol
psychological support? God does give me psychological support. he is the comforter and like a parent who protects their child he protects his children. we all need psychological support though. if you dont receive it from believing than you supplement it from getting support from your family, friends, peers, etc. do you think you no longer recieve psychological support from no where else now your "more logical" and no longer believe?
i am not scared of death. and its a huge misconsception for you guys to have about us. when you say you understand you only disprove it by saying i fear death. i dont fear anything except God himself. not people, not death. when i die i'll be in heaven, where there isnt any stress, illness, desease, rent, bills, tests and quizzes, baby mamma drama (not that i have all those). but do you feel enlightened because you dont believe?
you feel like "live for today cuz i only have 1 life to live". live fast and young so you regret nothing when you kick the bucket right? your gunna say its because i believe in heaven that i dont fear death, i need to believe in heaven so i dont fear. well there is no wway to prove or disprove that and to even say that is a fallacy. cuz if i didnt believe i'd probably be like you. living la vida loca, fast and living each day like my last. right im sure you arent afraid of death as a non believer and im not afraid of death being a believer soooooo whos exactly is afraid of death here?
you're paying for the sins that you commited fool. lol. we were born into sin but we all have sinned. you telling me you never lied or stole anything in your life? are you going to tell me that you never lusted after a female (or male if you into that) or got so mad you wanted to kill someone? thats all sin man. but God died for our sins.
what you should be asking is why did God die for my sins?
oooh. ok well that makes sense. yea if a person asks they expect an answer. unless the question was a rhetorical one
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I was just talking to someone about this last week, haha. Touche. Well, it was Judas, but Peter denied Jesus so you're kind of right by mentioning both, haha
Well, it wasn't prophesied who, but that someone would sell him out. However, God did not make that person do that, he merely knew that they would. And in order for free will to have any value, he could not intervene in those events. When we talk about criminals, biblically, we are all criminals as we have all sinned against God. We all deserve hell, but we have the option to accept Christ. So God knew and stated that someone would betray Jesus, but they had a choice to do it or not, and even after, to ask for forgiveness or live in their sin (or kill themselves in Judas' case, haha)
You can't really use that look at creation theory anymore since they are discovering more and more proof of things like the Big Bang, we are close to finding the Higgs Boson particle as well, soon as that Is found or even If It will be, It will disprove all those stories about how God created the universe. Since the Higgs Boson is pretty much existed right after the Big Bang and created and gave mass to everything. This being said It's nickname is called the "God particle". Now as much as people want both sides to be true the simple fact remains that there is no 100% proof on either side. You can't prove God exist you go by your faith, just like you can't prove everything 100% Science to be real you go off facts.
That is the reason I dislike religion, Hell and Heaven. Seems like a threat to me, If you follow my rules and love me you go to heaven, If you disobey you go to hell. Sounds like a top notch guy to me, you wanna dissect the bible and read between the lines you will see all the genocides that God committed, don't sound to merciful and loving to me. Some religions even believe and state that If a baby dies before It's baptized It goes to hell. That is just downright disgusting. If you believe in God good for you, If you don't then good for you as well. I won't say anymore on this subject, I tend to let people believe what they want no matter what It is.
I'm Agnostic so you can take whatever from that. That's all I'ma say on the subject.
So we don't go to hell. And besides, you may not have had it happen in your life but many people including myself have had God influence their lives. For some people Christianity has changed their lives for the better. So let's say you don't believe in God. But would you tell those who lives have become better, who feel better, who have taken up new lifestyles and become better people because of religion that they don't need God? That he changes nothing in their life?
Sure we all make our own decisions on how we live our life. But if belief in God and following the teaching of Jesus helps us then what's the harm? Tell me, how many atheist do you know that live a sin free life?
1. The bible is not so much rules for life as much as the story of God and how we can best fit into it.
2. We all commit sins and are subject to justice, which is death (hell). Even Ghandi committed sins, haha. If, hypothetically, someone lived their whole lives without sinning against God, then they would not need Jesus, but I don't think anyone has yet to do that other than Jesus.
3. Its important to understand that good deeds don't wash away sin. If someone murders another human, they're a murderer. If they help old women across the street or volunteer at a homeless shelter, those things are good, but it doesn't make them any less a murderer. Its the same things with our sins. Even if Ghandi did good things, he was still a sinner and still deserving of the same judgement for his crimes against God. But he has the option to ask God for his forgiveness and accept Christ. Its a free gift.
NarutoVsGoku
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God does exist. once you realize that you should get on your knees repent and ask Jesus to be your personal savior and to come into your life
there is a heaven and hell. those who except jesus go to heaven. those who dont go to hell. its not about being good or nice or being a good person. its not about you at all. its about God. did you accept him whole heartedly and truthfully? do you try to follow his examples? walk the way he walk, talk the way he talk?
doing good works doesnt get one into heaven. we are not saved by works alone but by grace we have been saved.
once again God does exist. we all need God.
does your parent exist? do you have faith in your parents? you know they exist but do you have faith in them? do you have faith that they will help you out when you when you need help? do you have faith that they will be there when you call? hmm? if you have faithful parents than you have the answer to that question.
what do you have against God?
A) still insulting me...
B) So, some babyes born with a mutation, what did they do to deserve it?
also, people born in wealthy fammilies, how did they get there?
C) you don't fear death, because you belive you'll go to heaven... I don't fear death because I accept it as part of my life... I embrace the unknown, be it an afterlife, a re-incarnation or an eternal darkness...
D) The way you view sin is different than mine... I've had *** with multiple girls, yet I don't think of it as a sin, since we both wanted intercource... So, why would intercource be considered a sin? And yes, I did get mad at people, then realised that doing so has no purpose at all... The only thing that matters is to have a good time, and ensure the people around you do so as well... Happyness is the ultimate wisdome in life...
E) and, yes, I live an extream life, and live every day as my last one... That is my philosophy. I know I am happy with my life... are you happy with your's? If yes, good for you, if not, well, you know the recipie...
NarutoVsGoku
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science only explains the creation of God
you look at life and you see uniformity, balance, art, beauty. look into dna. look into the cell. look into gravity. the distance the earth is from the sun. the solar system.
you think all of it is by chance?
but if i showed you the Mona Lisa would you say it was made by random color paints splashing on a canvas board? no you would say it was painted. if i showed you Mount Rushmore would you say it was erosion of mountains over millions of years from oceans or rain water or that it was carved by a person?
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