Tsunade At Best High Jounin Level?

[The Riddlerr]

Here's the post I made earlier today...

Lol wow... And the hating continues... really? All I managed to see over the last page was a bunch of speculative facts about her fighting style which we've hardly seen so you can't even begin to fathom as to what her actual abilities are and something about Kakashi and Guy having fought stronger people than her... Is that really the best you have?

What's next? We haven't seen Hashirama or Tobirama fight... The only time we saw them was when a 70yr old man pwned them in a 3v1 fight... Are they not Kage level now as well?

I have no idea how many times this needs to be said but, just because she isn't a frontline fighter like Kakashi, Guy or Naruto - Doesn't mean she doesn't deserve the position of Hokage. What you fail to realize is that the Kage does NOT have to be the strongest person in the village... So why are you all suddenly under the assumption that they have to be?

Do you honestly think someone who has been hailed as the world's greatest kunoichi would really be that weak? Tsunade served Konoha in 2 World Wars and if I remember correctly, Jiraiya even said she was the sole reason they won a war due to Tsunade constantly countering Chiyo's poisons... He also said that no one can stand equal to Tsunade in terms of both Combat or Medical Prowess.

As for her being slow, are you joking? The first thing she taught Sakura was to be quick and evasive... Why teach someone something you can't do? It makes no sense. If Tsunade wasn't quick and evasive like she was teaching Sakura to be - She would have never survived through all her years of fighting. Go back and re-read the fight with Kabuto, she was easily able to not only dodge and evade his attacks - But she was also capable of seeing through his attack patterns and being able to turn defense into offense.

So now the only argument any of you can fathom is about that particular fight... and you know what happened in that fight? Orochimaru and Kabuto played on a fear she had, and one she quickly got over to save Naruto even though she was already in bad shape.

What you all fail to realize is if you look at the difference between Part 1 and Part 2. Those who have been given enough screen time have shown us abilities that far exceed what is possible between Part 1 and Part 2 because Kishi went from controlled abilities and power levels up to DBZ level where people have techniques that are cataclysmic. Following an obvious trend in logic, if everyone has suddenly become to powerful - Does it not make sense that, once we actually see Tsunade in battle, she's going to have also received power ups which obviously suit the theme of the Manga?


But that's right, none of you have any logical arguments.. All you can say is... "Well Kakashi can kill her with Kamui." - News flash Einstein, Kakashi can kill 99% of people with Kamui... Does that mean he instantly becomes stronger than them? No. Just because someone possesses one technique which is capable of defeating someone, it doesn't instantly mean that person becomes stronger... Why do you honestly have such a flawed way of thinking? It's so 1-dimensional and so extremely biased towards someone who is obviously an extremely powerful Kunoichi.

If Tsunade wasn't Kage level then answer this one easy question... Why is the still the Hokage? It's been like 3 years since she was appointed... Why is the still the Hokage? If Kakashi or Guy deserve it more than her, why leave her in the position if she isn't good enough for it? This question right here destroys any argument you can put together because fact is, they would have removed her from that position if she wasn't ready for the job... Better yet, they would have never considered her to begin with if they didn't think she could do it.

Just answer the last paragraph with your so called "facts and logic"... I doubt you'll be able to answer any of the rest, you seem to be quite... slow...

 

[Prince Charles]

Here's the post I made earlier today...




Just answer the last paragraph with your so called "facts and logic"... I doubt you'll be able to answer any of the rest, you seem to be quite... slow...

are you serious ?
1. dont call me slow because obviously im not you seem to come off as a troll im giving my opinions and reasonings to back up my posts and stuff from the manga.

2. why is she still hokage?
jirayia declined
the 3rd hokage died
kakashi would of been hokage but she woke up
obviously because had connections with kohana thats how it works in their village when you have connections with close plp like hasirama being her grandpa ofc your gunna be hokage
another reason being is that she has the name '' sannin''
not to mention she was just last resort for being hokage
naruto would of been hokage if he was older and mature

 

[F1N1X]

'' most powerful stength''
sorry i dont see how she has the most powerful strength i highly doubt she can take on 5 bijuu

and i have been watching naruto since the begining i have been giving logic and my reasoning to why i dont think shes kage level until i see more feats from her im sticking to what i say. ill be glady happy to admit defeat and +rep every single person here until i see something impressive from her and more feats

Are u trying to kid me..Not..i don't have time to waste for u to think of a feat means u don't understand what a Kage means
Tell me something do u think that kakashi can take on orochimaro & kabuto U_Uin part 1....Or have u seen her really fight

 

[Prince Charles]

Are u trying to kid me..Not..i don't have time to waste for u to think of a feat means u don't understand what a Kage means
Tell me something do u think that kakashi can take on orochimaro & kabuto U_Uin part 1....Or have u seen her really fight

i do understand what a kage means im not retarded if i was i wouldnt be in medical academy at my school.

kakashi take on orochimaru in part 1? no

kakashi take on kabuto in part 1? probably yes

 

[F1N1X]

i do understand what a kage means im not retarded if i was i wouldnt be in medical academy at my school.

kakashi take on orochimaru in part 1? no

kakashi take on kabuto in part 1? probably yes

I never said u were retardedU_U
And i don't see you proof of her not being a Kage level Ninja

 

[Prince Charles]

I never said u were retardedU_U
And i don't see you proof of her not being a Kage level Ninja

read my older posts to melizzle i explain it perfectly well why.. plp just think im coming off as a troll even when i am backing up for what i gotta say and i even said i will glady +rep everyone here and admit defeat as soon i see more feats from her. until then i dont think she deserves the title as ''hokage''

 

[The Riddlerr]

are you serious ?
1. dont call me slow because obviously im not you seem to come off as a troll im giving my opinions and reasonings to back up my posts and stuff from the manga.

2. why is she still hokage?
jirayia declined
the 3rd hokage died
kakashi would of been hokage but she woke up
obviously because had connections with kohana thats how it works in their village when you have connections with close plp like hasirama being her grandpa ofc your gunna be hokage
another reason being is that she has the name '' sannin''
not to mention she was just last resort for being hokage
naruto would of been hokage if he was older and mature

You aren't backing your posts up with anything from the manga -.-"

And all those points are irrelevant. If she truly was not fit for the job as you seem to think, why does she still have it? And you can't answer that question because the truth is - If she wasn't Kage level then she wouldn't still be the Hokage.

Face it, the fact she IS a Hokage just puts you and everyone else who agreed with you to shame. You say you have Manga proof of her not being Kage level but we only need to post 1 image - Tsunade in the Hokage's outfit which obviously proves that she is Kage level.

 

[F1N1X]

read my older posts to melizzle i explain it perfectly well why.. plp just think im coming off as a troll even when i am backing up for what i gotta say and i even said i will glady +rep everyone here and admit defeat as soon i see more feats from her. until then i dont think she deserves the title as ''hokage''

And like i said i haven't see any fact relating to the meaning of the word kage in your explanationU_U
If u are trying to say that a Kage must have a kool feat before he or she should be a kage then.My friend u are not taking about becoming a kage ..that definition of requirement should be for,when u want to become an akasuki not a KageU_U

 

[Prince Charles]

You aren't backing your posts up with anything from the manga -.-"

And all those points are irrelevant. If she truly was not fit for the job as you seem to think, why does she still have it? And you can't answer that question because the truth is - If she wasn't Kage level then she wouldn't still be the Hokage.

Face it, the fact she IS a Hokage just puts you and everyone else who agreed with you to shame. You say you have Manga proof of her not being Kage level but we only need to post 1 image - Tsunade in the Hokage's outfit which obviously proves that she is Kage level.

oh im not backing up my posts with no manga facts ok...

i just explain to you she still has it at that time she was the last resort i just gave your like 5 reasons why

one just the having the name sannin
just being related to hasirama
jirayi denieing it
and her waking up so kakashi wasnt able to be it

puts me to shame lmfao? why would i feel shame over a fictional character?

her in the outfit? no shit sherlock did you really just say that

 

[Prince Charles]

And like i said i haven't see any fact relating to the meaning of the word kage in your explanationU_U
If u are trying to say that a Kage must have a kool feat before he or she should be a kage then.My friend u are not taking about becoming a kage ..that definition of requirement should be for,when u want to become an akasuki not a KageU_U

explanation of a kage really? im not going to explain the definition of a kage its common sense. akasuki oh yes im talking about the akaskuki but your the one who brought them up :shrug:

all im saying is she hasnt shown nothing remarkable or barely any feats and she done nothing really to be consider the hokage for me. thats just my opinion if you dont like it oh well im sticking by my logic i have been posting until i see she is worthy and has more at her disposal.

 

[F1N1X]

oh im not backing up my posts with no manga facts ok...

i just explain to you she still has it at that time she was the last resort i just gave your like 5 reasons why

one just the having the name sannin
just being related to hasirama
jirayi denieing it
and her waking up so kakashi wasnt able to be it

puts me to shame lmfao? why would i feel shame over a fictional character?

her in the outfit? no shit sherlock did you really just say that

I hope these aren't the facts u were talking about :|

 

[Prince Charles]

I hope these aren't the facts u were talking about :|

they are facts
its a fact that jiraiya denied it
its a fact if she didnt wake up kakashi would be hokage right now
its a fact in the hidden leaf if you dont have connections with past kages or plp who know kages you basically wont be hokage. thats quite obvious you really havent noticed that?

kakashi was nominated right? oh and guess was hes teacher was the 4th hokgage:flaw:

and she was the last resort

minat was hokage and his teacher was jirayia who knew hiruzen
the hidden leaf is a fked up place homie =p

 

[F1N1X]

they are facts
its a fact that jiraiya denied it
its a fact if she didnt wake up kakashi would be hokage right now
its a fact in the hidden leaf if you dont have connections with past kages or plp who know kages you basically wont be hokage. thats quite obvious you really havent noticed that?

kakashi was nominated right? oh and guess was hes teacher was the 4th hokgage:flaw:

and she was the last resort

minat was hokage and his teacher was jirayia who knew hiruzen
the hidden leaf is a fked up place homie =p

So this is your reason for saying she doesn't fit hokage..u must be sleeping,did u check the definition of a fact in support to your reasonU_U
All these are speculation i could have said that danzo would kill kakashi & he would become hokage U_U
Am off to bed,maybe tomorrow i will make a thread on tsunada

 

[Prince Charles]

So this is your reason for saying she doesn't fit hokage..u must be sleeping,did u check the definition of a fact in support to your reasonU_U
All these are speculation i could have said that danzo would kill kakashi & he would become hokage U_U
Am off to bed,maybe tomorrow i will make a thread on tsunada

sigh... '' so this is your reason for saying she doesnt fit hokage'' have you been ignoring me this whole time :flaw: come ready with your thread 2 marrow because im going all out

 

[EliteKakashi]

Kakashi himself has already said he wasn't hokage material(although being considered before Danzo would make you think the contrary, but I feel that's more because people didn't trust Danzo..Danzo was obviously more powerful and just as intelligent). He's a brilliant tactician and powerful, his perfect role is being a jounin. Would he make a good hokage? Probably. But his current spot is where he's best suited.

In terms of Tsunade, while no, we haven't seen her fight, I'm going to assume she has the ability to fight elite opponents, given she's been in wars, including helping to fight Hanzo. She certainly can't be weak.

 

[soulreaper11]

lol if that was the case then they would of elected kakashi as hokage and not even lookin for her.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

'' is on whole other level when it comes to saving lives'' does that matter? saving a life is saving a life regardless of the meens

i know her medical abilities are a feat you dont have to tell me that.
this is a forum since when are you not suppose to compare characters?
ninja contest i thought this was a reasonable discussion :shrug:
you fail
:flaw:

Oh my days how, dumb can you be? Do you seriously not get that no other ninja can offer the ability to offer protection from harm and death itself at the same time is a good enough feat? Like I have already said, feats are different and special in their own way, your thick skull obviously cant quite grasp that concept. Kakashi's Kamui, no one else has it and its impressive right? Why cant you think exactly the same way with Tsunade's medical abilities? Oh I know cause you are merely a deluded troll and a hater.

And well done captain obvious on stating that this is a Naruto forum..of course you are allowed discussion but even a discussion should be logical and relevent to the point of the thread, which is whether Tsunade being a Kage material. Whether you like it or not Kishi made her hokage so from that sense build a bridge and get over it. U_U

 

[CeeJay.]

every kage has his/her own strength and weakness. tusnade is great at taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. she isn't that weak.
and every kage doesn't have to be a killing machine, tsunade is a "supplementary" type of kage xd

^ Exactly.
Do you know that without Tsunade 90% or above of the Konoha's population would be dead?
She risked her life for the village and that's very honorable.

She's just fine as Hokage.

 

[Prince Charles]

Oh my days how, dumb can you be? Do you seriously not get that no other ninja can offer the ability to offer protection from harm and death itself at the same time is a good enough feat? Like I have already said, feats are different and special in their own way, your thick skull obviously cant quite grasp that concept. Kakashi's Kamui, no one else has it and its impressive right? Why cant you think exactly the same way with Tsunade's medical abilities? Oh I know cause you are merely a deluded troll and a hater.

And well done captain obvious on stating that this is a Naruto forum..of course you are allowed discussion but even a discussion should be logical and relevent to the point of the thread, which is whether Tsunade being a Kage material. Whether you like it or not Kishi made her hokage so from that sense build a bridge and get over it. U_U

you seem kind of mad bro take a chill pill or play call of duty
naruto in v2 fox mode like bee was in when he fighting kisame can offer protection from harm and death
doesnt kabuto specialize in medical ninjutsu too ?
im a troll or hater? uhhh nty your the one who sounds mad bra:shrug:

some plp may forget at time this is a naruto forum so i remind them sometimes is that a problem for you? if so then go cry to a admin about it
this is logical? ive been backing up what ive been saying since yesterday with reasoning and logic.
yes i know kishi made her hokage he is the author?
build a bridge? not really a construction worker :shrug:
i can get over it shes a fictional character your the one who seems mad bro if you want to continue this we can do it 2 marrow because f1nix said he was going to make a thread about tsuande so you and me can settle it their.

 

[Gooner4life]

In the end, Tsunade is definitely a worthy hokage. Firstly, she was taught by Hiruzen, who was known as the God of shinobi. Someone said she doesn't have many jutsu but if she was taught by the man who apparently mastered every jutsu wouldn't be a powerful fighter. Are Jiraiya and Orochimaru just lucky and is she is ridiculously far behind as you are saying. Did Hiruzen just forget her?

Secondly, she is clearly a powerful believer in the will of fire, and was prepared to give her life to save the villagers. No other kage would have been able to save as many people. What the good in being able to fight Pain if all of the villagers are dead and there is no one to protect. I don't understand how her saving so many lives isn't a feat, and if Nagato hadn't resurrected everyone this would have been one of the greatest achievements if not the greatest achievement that has ever seen in the the leaf.

And on the jutsu point, she hasn't really had many fights to show of her power but logically, she has to be immensely powerful, considering she was one of the legendary sannin and fought in the third shinobi war and was a student of the third hokage, and her experience and love for the village are enough to make her a great hokage.